Amazing how the National Press Ignores the Bills

[dollars 2 donuts]

On 11/4/2019 at 4:28 PM, Shaw66 said:

I just took a look at the stats.   Bills are 6-2, as we all know.  Bills are 3rd best in yards per game defense, behind the Pats and 49ers, and 3rd best in points per game defense, behind the 49ers and Pats, and NO ONE is talking about the Bills.  

 

Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, nothing that makes the Bills interesting except that their defense is great and they're winning.   That's not enough to make them worth covering, I guess.   If they beat the Browns, they're a game behind the Pats in the division, and no one is interested  

 

 

I've said this so many times over the course of the season:  the Bills most egregious sin in 2019 is that they are not a good fantasy team.

 

They used to sing songs about the Bears defense in the 80s.

 

However, in this day and age while watching a game with a large group of people you look around and see almost 90% of them are looking down at their phones, sometimes while a play is going on...and well...you kind of know your time has come and gone.

 

Therefore and honestly, in this day and age the Bills aren't overlooked because of their easy schedule and "sometimes" offense, they are overlooked because they don't mean anything points wise to the  "Three Lards And A Cloud Of Buds" team in their keeper league at ACME, Inc. 

 

 

 

...their offense does need to score more, though.

Edited November 7, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts

[frostbitmic]

Meh ... We've beaten the 0 for 2019 Bungles ... 1 win teams in the Deadskins, Jests and Dullphins ... As well as the 2 win Giants and the Titans who finally benched their QB after losing to us.

 

We've played two decent teams in the patriots (close game) and the Eagles (kicked our asses)

 

I'm happy for the wins but they aren't overly strong ones.

[frostbitmic]

5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

I've said this so many times over the course of the season:  the Bills most egregious sin in 2019 is that they are not a good fantasy team.

 

They used to sing songs about the Bears defense in the 80s.

 

However, in this day and age while watching a game with a large group of people you look around and see almost 90% of them are looking down at their phones, sometimes while a play is going on...and well...you kind of know your time has come and gone.

 

Therefore and honestly, in this day and age the Bills aren't overlooked because of their easy schedule and "sometimes" offense, they are overlooked because they don't mean anything points wise to the  "Three Lards And A Cloud Of Buds" team in their keeper league at ACME, Inc. 

 

 

 

...their offense does need to score more, though.

My fantasy team has Aaron Rodgers and Josh Allen as QB's ... Allen has beaten Rodgers pretty much every week except for Rodgers 1 big game. We need to beat the good teams now n then.

[The Red King]

We're not exciting.  There is no story.  We live in a clickbait society.  It's not about your record as much as it is your sexiness.  Had we beaten the Patriots?  Scrappy upstarts?  Future kings of the AFC East?  Cinderella team?  ...but we didn't.  We beat a bunch of bottom feeders.  *yawn*  There's no *story* there.  We have no all-star dominant player to fawn over.  No 300-yard passer, no 100-yard rusher.  We don't score tons of points.  So...if you're the media, where's the hook?  Why should people nationally care about this team?  The Bills just aren't sexy right now...so you're not going to hear much about them.  If the Bills want the media to stop sleeping on them...they need to stop putting them to sleep.

[Nihilarian]

47 minutes ago, The Red King said:

We're not exciting.  There is no story.  We live in a clickbait society.  It's not about your record as much as it is your sexiness.  Had we beaten the Patriots?  Scrappy upstarts?  Future kings of the AFC East?  Cinderella team?  ...but we didn't.  We beat a bunch of bottom feeders.  *yawn*  There's no *story* there.  We have no all-star dominant player to fawn over.  No 300-yard passer, no 100-yard rusher.  We don't score tons of points.  So...if you're the media, where's the hook?  Why should people nationally care about this team?  The Bills just aren't sexy right now...so you're not going to hear much about them.  If the Bills want the media to stop sleeping on them...they need to stop putting them to sleep.

All well said. 

 

The most exciting story of the season so far was that Dawson Knox run after the catch to the mainstream media. Otherwise, meh. 

 

Perhaps should the Bills win on turkey day, beat the Patriots, or Ravens they will look at Buffalo differently. Until then, squeaking out wins over bad teams isn't doing them any favors. 

[GregPersons]

5 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

All well said. 

 

The most exciting story of the season so far was that Dawson Knox run after the catch to the mainstream media. Otherwise, meh. 

 

Perhaps should the Bills win on turkey day, beat the Patriots, or Ravens they will look at Buffalo differently. Until then, squeaking out wins over bad teams isn't doing them any favors. 

 

That was a great RAC though. It remains the most impressive individual play of the Bills season. 

[Thurman#1]

On 11/5/2019 at 6:28 AM, Shaw66 said:

I just took a look at the stats.   Bills are 6-2, as we all know.  Bills are 3rd best in yards per game defense, behind the Pats and 49ers, and 3rd best in points per game defense, behind the 49ers and Pats, and NO ONE is talking about the Bills.  

 

Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, nothing that makes the Bills interesting except that their defense is great and they're winning.   That's not enough to make them worth covering, I guess.   If they beat the Browns, they're a game behind the Pats in the division, and no one is interested  

 

 

I don't see what you see here.

 

There's the amount of interest I'd expect for a team with a likelihood of getting a wild card in a very weak conference, but unlikely to get a division title. (IMO that's fair.)

 

Agreed there aren't really the stars or the sex appeal either, though. That may be having a bit of an impact.

Edited November 8, 2019 by Thurman#1

[Seven-N-Nine]

14 hours ago, CircleTheWagons99 said:

Not ignored, just nothing good being said about them.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001074149/article/chargers-lions-better-than-their-records-bills-rams-are-worse

 

But it's true...

[row_33]

It just conjecture and projection that sports fans tend to enjoy

 

don’t let it upset you

 

 

[eball]

On 11/4/2019 at 4:28 PM, Shaw66 said:

I just took a look at the stats.   Bills are 6-2, as we all know.  Bills are 3rd best in yards per game defense, behind the Pats and 49ers, and 3rd best in points per game defense, behind the 49ers and Pats, and NO ONE is talking about the Bills.  

 

Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, nothing that makes the Bills interesting except that their defense is great and they're winning.   That's not enough to make them worth covering, I guess.   If they beat the Browns, they're a game behind the Pats in the division, and no one is interested  

 

I don't allow myself to get worked up over this because I actually like McD being able to keep pushing the "nobody respects us" message in the locker room.  It is kind of funny, though...even with the Pats*** loss on Sunday night I've heard several national broadcasters still making definitive statements like "the Ravens will still have to beat them in Foxboro later on."

 

It is correct that nobody gives the Bills a chance to win the AFC East, which will make it all the sweeter if it somehow happens.  I'm just enjoying the ride.

[CircleTheWagons99]

1 hour ago, Seven-N-Nine said:

 

But it's true...

Only time will tell. 

[GunnerBill]

21 minutes ago, eball said:

 

It is correct that nobody gives the Bills a chance to win the AFC East, which will make it all the sweeter if it somehow happens.  I'm just enjoying the ride.

 

I still give us almost no chance. I would love to be wrong.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.patspulpit.com/2019/11/8/20954821/nfl-survey-buffalo-bills-pretenders-patriots-packers-49ers-seahawks

 

This is from a Pats based site 

 

Entering Week 10 with a 6-2 record, the Buffalo Bills are one of the surprise stories in the NFL this season. Led by a potent running attack and one of the best defenses in all of football, the team started the year in impressive fashion and has suffered only two defeats at this point — both of which coming at New Era Field: the Patriots won 16-10 in Week 4, while the Philadelphia Eagles were able to steal a 31-13 victory in Week 8.

 

Despite the two home losses, however, the Bills are still well on their way to earning a playoff spot for just the second time this century. They lead the AFC’s wild card race ahead of the 5-3 Indianapolis Colts and the 5-4 Oakland Raiders, and are only 1.5 games behind New England for the top spot in the division. While it will be hard to overtake the reigning world champions in the standings, Buffalo can still feel good about where it is at.

 

It is therefore no surprise to see the team’s fans agree. According to SB Nation’s latest FanPulse survey, 80% of participants feel that the organization is headed in the right direction. This approval rating ties the team for the seventh best in the NFL after nine weeks, and ranks four percentage points behind the Patriots. But while “Bills Mafia” is viewing the team in a positive light, not everybody agrees.  ....   (cont'd)

Edited November 8, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[Cripple Creek]

On 11/4/2019 at 4:28 PM, Shaw66 said:

I just took a look at the stats.   Bills are 6-2, as we all know.  Bills are 3rd best in yards per game defense, behind the Pats and 49ers, and 3rd best in points per game defense, behind the 49ers and Pats, and NO ONE is talking about the Bills.  

 

Small market team, no sex appeal, no big-name stars, nothing that makes the Bills interesting except that their defense is great and they're winning.   That's not enough to make them worth covering, I guess.   If they beat the Browns, they're a game behind the Pats in the division, and no one is interested  

et tu @Shaw66 ?  Someone your age needs the validation of the "national press?"  Lose your inferiority complex. Win convincingly against what is considered to be a good team and the rest will take care of itself.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

16 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

et tu @Shaw66 ?  Someone your age needs the validation of the "national press?"  Lose your inferiority complex. Win convincingly against what is considered to be a good team and the rest will take care of itself.

 

I don't need national press validation BUT when I see the above FROM a Pats Pulpit .. 

 

Me likey !!   (Even with the NE snark)

 

Pete Prisco arguably one of the Bills biggest critics  (oh he still is but) has picked the Bills to WIN numerous times and cover spreads

[SirAndrew]

Why don’t we beat the Browns, Fish, and Cowboys? Then let’s get worked up about disrespect. 

[The Red King]

As I said before, it's all about the clicks.  Put yourself in the mindset of a writer for, say, nfl.com.  You're not getting paid for the spirit of the game, or journalistic integrety.  You're being paid for clickable articles.  What can you write, good or bad, about the Bills that is clickable?  "Bills win another game with good defense and nothing explosive or eye-catching!".  Even teams with worse records, like the Browns and Jets, get more articles because they have big-name players on dumpster-fire teams, and people love dumpster fires!  Those articles get clicks.  It's not like it was in the past.  Viewers/readers in this day and age can choose their news.  In the past, it was offered like a three-course meals and people consumed it all.  Now, it's like a buffet and no matter how that particular side might be, not many people are gonna eat it if it doesn't catch the eye.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

On 11/4/2019 at 3:32 PM, IgotBILLStopay said:

Actually a lot of them are talking about the Bills. Except they are saying the record is product of a bad schedule. In fact Terry Bradshaw called the Bills a bad team. 

 

I say we use that as bulletin board material and go beat up on an opponent every week. 

 

What they say now does not matter - only what we do in Jan / Feb.

 

This seems appropriate (original 1967 version)

 

[Chorus]
He he he he
Yeah, baby
I like it like that
You gotta believe me when I tell you
I said I like it like that
My boogaloo, I need it baby
I like it like that
I like it like that
I said I like it like that
And I want it like that
I like it like that
I got the soul, I got the thing
I said I like it like that
I got the soul, baby look at me
I like it like that
Yeah, baby
I said I like it like that
I like it like that
I like it like that

[Post-Chorus]
Stomp your feet if you think I'm neat
Clap your hands if you want some more
Stomp your feet if you think I'm neat
Clap your hands if you want some more

 

[bdutton]

There are a couple of angles to look at this...

 

1. We don't want the national scrutiny.  Some players may not respect us which will reflect in their game preparation against us. We have won largely ugly games with low offensive output.  Why should they respect us?  We also have an offensive unit that has not quite jelled yet.  We have an entirely new offensive line (with only LG returning from last year), entirely new WR/TE's, Shady is gone... so with time I think the offense will start clicking.

 

2. Statistically speaking, the Bills have a stingy defense not allowing opposing offenses to take advantage of red zone opportunities.  We are a very good team, beating the teams we should.  We are a very disciplined team too.  McDermott has the team ready and focused at all times.  So I think good teams will recognize this and have their teams prepared because we will be too.

 

I predict that the Bills will beat the Browns handily and Kitchens will be fired.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

15 hours ago, GregPersons said:

 

That was a great RAC though. It remains the most impressive individual play of the Bills season. 

 

That DiMarco catch and tiptoe down the sideline was pretty sweet as well.

[Chicken Boo]

The defense is not great.  The secondary is, but the front 7 leaves a lot to be desired.

[RaoulDuke79]

They're not totally ignored. They were just discussed on Get Up. Riddick's bold prediction was that we will be shut out by the Browns. So there's that.

Edited November 8, 2019 by RaoulDuke79

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 hours ago, The Red King said:

We're not exciting.  There is no story.  We live in a clickbait society.  It's not about your record as much as it is your sexiness.  Had we beaten the Patriots?  Scrappy upstarts?  Future kings of the AFC East?  Cinderella team?  ...but we didn't.  We beat a bunch of bottom feeders.  *yawn*  There's no *story* there.  We have no all-star dominant player to fawn over.  No 300-yard passer, no 100-yard rusher.  We don't score tons of points.  So...if you're the media, where's the hook?  Why should people nationally care about this team?  The Bills just aren't sexy right now...so you're not going to hear much about them.  If the Bills want the media to stop sleeping on them...they need to stop putting them to sleep.

 

I don't think the Bills want the media to stop sleeping on them.  I think the Bills would be totes happy to fly under the radar ....all the way to a championship game.

 

5 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

They're not totally ignored. They were just discussed on Get Up. Riddick's bold prediction was that we will be shut out by the Browns. So there's that.

 

Oooooh.  Because the Brownies defense (#20) is much better than Titans (#8) or NE (#1), who did not shut us out, I presume?

That's a whole level-up in this disrespect game.

[Mrbojanglezs]

Tre White is starving for national attention. I remember last time he was on NFL Network he begged the host at the end to have him on again. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

GMFB has been sending the Bills love all year long 

 

Isn't that "National Attention"? 

 

 

there you go Hap 

Edited November 8, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

GMFB has been sending the Bills love all year long 

 

Isn't that "National Attention"?

 

Kay Adams ?

[benderbender]

Another lose-lose scenario this Sunday. If we win, it’s because the Browns are a train wreck and we’re still garbage. If they win, it’s the pretenders strike again. It’s irritating how sports media in general just assumes the Dolphins or Redskins simply aren’t trying or are filled with players that aren’t filled with the best players in their home towns. 
 

I get it: the Browns are a better story win or lose. Rubbernecking is a great American pastime. I hope for a strong Bills performance, and not another locker room rebuilding win for an opponent. If only so it makes the power rankings more annoying for the talking heads.

[Beast]

On 11/4/2019 at 4:37 PM, Boatdrinks said:

Still not considered a big star for casual fans around the league. He might be the only guy on D a lot of people could name. 

Right, the casual fan. That being the fan that says, “when did the Rams move back to Los Angeles”. The casual fan also knows who Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and  JJ Watt are and not anyone else. The casual fan that switches favorite teams every two years.

 

Any serious fan of football knows who Tre White is. As well as many other Bills players on that defense.

Edited November 8, 2019 by Binghamton Beast

[PauleeeWalnuts]

I live in the NYC Market and anytime they discuss the Bills they never think they are any good and say they haven't beaten anyone with a winning record. Id rather have no press than continue to hear that stuff, but what can you do? They need to beat Dallas/Baltimore/NE etc before anyone believes they're legit IMO

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 11/4/2019 at 5:17 PM, KayAdams said:

By focusing on the weak schedule and on the losses to NE and Philly, I think many of you are overlooking the reality of the national media bias.

 

If any of the more marketable franchises jumped out to a 6-2 record (regardless of the schedule) with the #3 defense, the #11 rushing attack led by an exciting rookie like Singletary and a respected vet like Gore, a constantly improving second-year first-round QB with running skills and a number of 4th-quarter comebacks already to his resume, and weeks ago had almost beat the greatest NFL dynasty ever....you don't think that team would get more hype than what the Bills are currently getting???

 

The bias is real and shameful. The Bills represent everything the NFL is trying to move away from: small market in the Rust Belt, cold weather, emphasis on defense and the running game, zero big-name divas on the roster, squeaky clean image (read: BORING)....

 

I still say....I like it like that!

 

 

6 hours ago, benderbender said:

Another lose-lose scenario this Sunday. If we win, it’s because the Browns are a train wreck and we’re still garbage. If they win, it’s the pretenders strike again. It’s irritating how sports media in general just assumes the Dolphins or Redskins simply aren’t trying or are filled with players that aren’t filled with the best players in their home towns. 
 

I get it: the Browns are a better story win or lose. Rubbernecking is a great American pastime. I hope for a strong Bills performance, and not another locker room rebuilding win for an opponent. If only so it makes the power rankings more annoying for the talking heads.

 

Again, I respectfully put it out there:

 

Bull @#$%.

 

If we win, we get the W

 

Go BILLS!

 

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Again, I respectfully put it out there:

 

Bull @#$%.

 

If we win, we get the W

 

Go BILLS!

Get enough of those meaningless Ws and we get to go to a meaningless playoff game.

[LSHMEAB]

Truth is, the Bills are in the same boat as teams like Cleveland and Kansas City in terms of lack of interest. UNLESS your QB becomes a national figure like Mahomes and Mayfield(for some reasons other than football).

 

I don't think anyone will care about the Bills until/unless Allen becomes a star.

 

But really whatever; I cared about this stuff when I was in my 20's. At this point, I just want to see them win. Couldn't care less what people have to say or whether they "talk them up." 

 

Win BIG and they'll have no choice but to take notice.

Edited November 9, 2019 by LSHMEAB

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Truth is, the Bills are in the same boat as teams like Cleveland and Kansas City in terms of lack of interest. UNLESS your QB becomes a national figure like Mahomes and Mayfield(for some reasons other than football).

 

I don't think anyone will care about the Bills until/unless Allen becomes a star.

 

But really whatever; I cared about this stuff when I was in my 20's. At this point, I just want to see them win. Couldn't care less what people have to say or whether they "talk them up." 

 

Win BIG and they'll have no choice but to take notice.

 

Win the same way we have been, but keep winning, and they'll have no choice but to take notice.

[apuszczalowski]

8 hours ago, benderbender said:

Another lose-lose scenario this Sunday. If we win, it’s because the Browns are a train wreck and we’re still garbage. If they win, it’s the pretenders strike again. It’s irritating how sports media in general just assumes the Dolphins or Redskins simply aren’t trying or are filled with players that aren’t filled with the best players in their home towns. 
 

I get it: the Browns are a better story win or lose. Rubbernecking is a great American pastime. I hope for a strong Bills performance, and not another locker room rebuilding win for an opponent. If only so it makes the power rankings more annoying for the talking heads.

Not necessarily, if they do it convincingly by beating them without needing some 4th quarter comeback or by a bunch of missed kicks, and Cleveland doesn't look like a complete mess who have given up, they may start to take notice. When you make the Dolphins look good and win after you let them have a lead for a a while late in the game, the 'experts' in the media aren't going to be falling all over you on how great you are.......

Edited November 9, 2019 by apuszczalowski

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

did the '90's bills get any media attention? I know some don't like to look back or discuss that past team era, but they had plenty of media attention when it wasn't like it is here in the 21st century, but they got it.

 

because they not only won, but pretty much dominated, especially at home. as an opponent back then in the playoffs, you didn't want to go through buffalo.

 

in the words of the legend, "when you want to be ranked and when you want to be considered as one of the top echelon teams in this era of football, to dethrone the king you got cut his head off." "you got to beat the new england patriots*, you got to beat the philadelphia eagles." 

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/hall-of-fame-de-bruce-smith-weighs-in-on-the-bills-5-2-record-through-eight-week

 

win. keep winning. they need to establish dominance and when they do, you'll have all the media attention you want.

 

until then, don't expect much.

Edited November 9, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[LSHMEAB]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Win the same way we have been, but keep winning, and they'll have no choice but to take notice.

For clarification, when I say win BIG, I'm talking about winning playoff games and such. I do like to analyze games, understand why, and try to determine what that portends for the future. But as far as results, couldn't care less how the Bills win; only "want" is WINNING.

[zonabb]

Jesus. It's called strength of schedule. Do some research. 

 

And why do people need validation from other people for something they have no control over, which is the performance of a sports team? I'm continually dumbfounded by the blindspot people have for who this team is and how butt hurt everyone gets when the national media ignores them because they realize they're not what their record suggest. 

 

 

[Nelius]

10 hours ago, benderbender said:

Another lose-lose scenario this Sunday. If we win, it’s because the Browns are a train wreck and we’re still garbage. If they win, it’s the pretenders strike again. It’s irritating how sports media in general just assumes the Dolphins or Redskins simply aren’t trying or are filled with players that aren’t filled with the best players in their home towns. 

 

I actually think people will annoyingly jump back on the bandwagon if/when we win. We'll be 7-2 in a weird muddled AFC with another AFC notch, it's going to be hard to ignore. I'm almost liking the hate right now, it will be incredible to see the heads spin Sunday evening. 

[CircleTheWagons99]

6 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

Right, the casual fan. That being the fan that says, “when did the Rams move back to Los Angeles”. The casual fan also knows who Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and  JJ Watt are and not anyone else. The casual fan that switches favorite teams every two years.

 

Any serious fan of football knows who Tre White is. As well as many other Bills players on that defense.

Im in NC and Motor is well known all ready. 

[CaptnCoke11]

On 11/4/2019 at 4:09 PM, row_33 said:

 

some are calling the Bills a total fraud, which is harsh

 

 

They could be right though.  We’ll find out these next 8 games