MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: See below. Cool Next week you can use the same Gif when I post the Fire McD thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Let me start off by saying not a chicken little thread and I know that we are 5-2 and still have a favorable schedule to get to the playoffs. But that also goes to what I am about to say. Let’s say the Bills do not right the ship. If this season goes like seasons in the past of collapsing down the stretch after a 5-1 now 5-2 start does McD survive? With all the talk of the DNA and Standards and Process you you think McD survives a Bills collapse? BTW add another Blowout loss to the McD resume. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: Cool Next week you can use the same Gif when I post the Fire McD thread I'll have it primed and ready to go. Here's some helpful thread starters for you- feel free to borrow: "Im not saying we need to fire McD... But we need to fire McD." "I don't hate our coach, but if I was in a room with our coach and Hitler and had a gun with one bullet, the bills would be looking for a new coach." "Obviously there's a lot of season left, and things could change, and I still believe in McD. But we really need to start having the conversation about whether or not McD is the answer." "It doesn't matter that we won. We aren't going anywhere with this coach. Don't tell me about the record. It's time for change." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I'm more interested to see MCDs postgame speech to the team after this loss rather than the wins it's usually posted after. Wonder what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Omg no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Let me start off by saying not a chicken little thread and I know that we are 5-2 and still have a favorable schedule to get to the playoffs. But that also goes to what I am about to say. Let’s say the Bills do not right the ship. If this season goes like seasons in the past of collapsing down the stretch after a 5-1 now 5-2 start does McD survive? With all the talk of the DNA and Standards and Process you you think McD survives a Bills collapse? BTW add another Blowout loss to the McD resume. You correctly state that a collapse is unlikely with this schedule. But if this team somehow goes 2-7 the rest of the way, then yes, McDermott should be in trouble. 7-9 vs. this schedule is really more like 4-12 or 5-11 in any other year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: I'll have it primed and ready to go. Here's some helpful thread starters for you- feel free to borrow: "Im not saying we need to fire McD... But we need to fire McD." "I don't hate our coach, but if I was in a room with our coach and Hitler and had a gun with one bullet, the bills would be looking for a new coach." "Obviously there's a lot of season left, and things could change, and I still believe in McD. But we really need to start having the conversation about whether or not McD is the answer." "It doesn't matter that we won. We aren't going anywhere with this coach. Don't tell me about the record. It's time for change." Dont need them, because when I decide it is time to move on from someone I am very obvious with it. See my Tyrod Taylor Threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I am asking ONLY.. but hasn’t McD earned a little bit of leeway since he broke the 19 year? Drought of not being in the playoffs and probably getting them there again this year? So 2/3 years in the big dance isn’t bad. And doing it with a 2nd year QB pretty good as Well.. McD can get a lot out of what talent he has. In 2017, like this year, the Bills have good to very good talent with maybe one or two as elite. McD also does not beat good teams and tends to get out-coached. Also, in 2017 if the miracle of Dalton to Boyd doesn't happen, there is no playoffs. I'm glad we finally got the monkey off our backs, but it was very fortunate. Yes, Josh Allen is a second year QB still growing into the position and experiencing a lot of pains in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Why shouldn't he? I think it's starting to become clear the team is over achieving probably due to coaching. In my opinion, i think they will falter now, and fall back into the pack, possibly backing into the playoffs at 9-7 in best case scenario. I just don't see this team hanging with better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Luka said: Uh... what? Daboll is somehow getting credit for the GOAT's production? Funny, McDaniels tried that to and crashed and burned. 2012 Chiefs: 32nd ranked offense. 2011 Dolphins: 20th ranked offense. 2010 Browns: 31st ranked offense. 2009 Browns: 29th ranked offense. Daboll is a fraud. His only successful stint as an OC was with Bama and that had a lot more to do with Bama being Bama. And sorry but Bama offense aint gonna work in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Jobot said: Some people need a hobby. He has one. It’s s*#t posting on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It's amazing how large the tail of the bell curve gets on Monday after a loss.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Chris66 said: Are you saying Allen isnt smart enough to run this offense because the Pats have been dominating with this offense for almost 2 decades Having a system and being able to call the right plays at the right time within it are 2 different things. Daboll may understand this system from having learned it on the Patriots, but the truth is as an OC, the man has not had an offense in the top 15 anytime in his career. One lucky year under Saban and he gets the call up. Sorry, but the man is not ready for prime-time and YES, he is stunting Allen's growth. Allen now plays hesitant. His gunslinger and do what it takes with your legs style has been neutered in an attempt to turn him into a pocket passer. He is playing at 70% capacity like this and no team is going to fear Allen in the pocket or Gore as a lead back. Open it up like Baltimore has and let Allen use his legs as a weapon and teams need to back off. This offense is clearly not working, other than the fact that John Brown can catch Allen's off-target balls with ease. No one else has the hands on this offense as is evident by the drops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: It's amazing how large the tail of the bell curve gets on Monday after a loss.... i usually got 96 on exams where people whined for the bell curve, on normal stuff it wasn't so great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: It isnt. It is a question that I knew would spark debate. And is a question grounded in History. And many have responded with No, that they could collapse this year and he would still be back Others said He would be but would cost Coordinators their jobs. See a TROLL thread would be FIRE McD. If McDermott takes the Bills to the playoffs again this year (2 out of 3 years) will you stop with the History crap? My guess would be NO you will not. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Totally a chicken little thread More clown-show than chicken little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, ColoradoBills said: If McDermott takes the Bills to the playoffs again this year (2 out of 3 years) will you stop with the History crap? My guess would be NO you will not. If they dont Collapse under this coaching staff (like they have in the past coaching staffs) then yes that Collapse narrative goes away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: If they dont Collapse under this coaching staff (like they have in the past coaching staffs) then yes that Collapse narrative goes away. I'm going to hold you to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, whatdrought said: 2-1 since the bye with a loss to the team that won the Superbowl two years ago.. In fact, our only losses are against the most recent SB winners. You also don't know if they are a bad team. You don't know anything except what the record says.. which is 5-2. Yes. Emotional loss. Emotions are high after that loss.. Why is that confusing? Oh cool! More "what ifs" on top of your hypothetical. I have a couple too... What if Josh Allen doesn't throw those interceptions vs. NE. What if he doesn't get hurt. What if he doesn't fumble that football against the Eagles. What if Hyde doesn't take a bad angle on the Sanders run. What if we had drafted Tom Brady. What if we had traded for Bill Bellicheck. What if the earth was flat. What if we're actually in the matrix? I get where you're coming from, and you're entitled to whatever opinion you desire and I'm not faulting you that at all... That being said, you might want to find an umbrella cause your "not a chicken little" post is coming across a little "sky is probably falling". 'You don't know anything except what the record says.. which is 5-2.' Disagree that we 'dont know anything except what the record says'. From yesterday's game we know they are a 5-1 team not as good as a 3-4 team! Whilst it IS a record which suggests a 'good' team, the eagles were 3-4 and outplayed us by quite alot remember. Maybe their games were tougher? In using the record to tell how good the team is, after being beat by a 3-4 team it is understandable to factor in who they played and who they have beaten etc. The games the bills won were close, you are right that the two losses were against two recent Superbowl teams/ coaches. The record will be the main thing that matters but that will be at the end of the season, not now. Edited October 28, 2019 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, ColoradoBills said: I'm going to hold you to that. Not worried about it, because absence a collapse then one could say they have changed the recent history of this team and that would be a good thing for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Lurker said: It's amazing how large the tail of the bell curve gets on Monday after a loss.... After the manner of a loss. It was a disappointing performance on offence and defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: If McDermott takes the Bills to the playoffs again this year (2 out of 3 years) will you stop with the History crap? My guess would be NO you will not. McDermott is doing a great job. You cannot assemble enough talent to be effective in such a short time. The Bills have had a lot of holes to fill, and obviously their work is not done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Will Bobby survive a loss to the Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, CommonCents said: Will Bobby survive a loss to the Redskins? Sure will. I am used to let downs from the Buffalo Sports Teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Will Bobby survive a loss to the Redskins? Man!!! Don't! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It would be a mistake firing McD short of anything catastrophic, which would include pretty much only losing out or mutiny in the locker room imo. He has the squad pointed in the right direction, which is more than I can say for teams past. Whether he'll be able to get them the whole way home is up for debate, but I can see the plan and yearly improvement. The players seem to have bought in as well...for me he needs to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Barring some sort of epic collapse, Yes Beane and McD will be back. There is no question of that. The issue is where is the improvement he preaches in penalties and his own mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: Yeah, I think he will. Because of our super weak schedule, we’ll probably win 10 games and make the playoffs. And probably lose to the colts by 20 and score 6 pts. Yet, thousands will show up to the airport and celebrate a WC birth ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Does he survive? You are kidding right. Except for the pats, they have had (and continue to have) a cupcake schedule. But at the end of the day, 5-2 is 5-2. If the Bills somehow manage to lose out with this schedule, then maybe, and only maybe, does he get shown the door. But even that and I think he gets one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, youngjebrey said: *Bills lose one game* “DoEs McD SuRvIvE tHiS yEaR?” Being a Bills fan with a new girlfriend. "I've really enjoyed our first few dates. You have a lot of promise and I like where we're headed." "Thanks." "Any chance we can get together for dinner tonight?" "I can't tonight. I have to...:" "Yeah, screw you, b*tch. I didn't like you anyway, you fugly butterface! I hope you die, skank! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Being a Bills fan with a new girlfriend. "I've really enjoyed our first few dates. You have a lot of promise and I like where we're headed." "Thanks." "Any chance we can get together for dinner tonight?" "I can't tonight. I have to...:" "Yeah, screw you, b*tch. I didn't like you anyway, you fugly butterface! I hope you die, skank! Not to mention, the girl down the street is an MVP candidate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Luka said: McDermott is fine, he just needs to fire that waste of space OC. Who hired "that waste of space OC" AFTER he hired the previous "waste of space OC"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not to mention, the girl down the street is an MVP candidate! Yeah, but she's probably dating the guy who is about to attempt a field goal on 4th and 11, gets called for delay of game, and decides to go for it on 4th and 16. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, HeHateMe said: He needs to remove Dabol. Allen will be stunted in this offense. Allen will be stunted in this offense because this offense doesn't have enough talent to compete with quality teams like the Pats or the Eagles. He gets no help from the running game, so running play action isn't a realistic option. He's got a couple of decent WRs, intermittent decent play from other WRs and TEs, no reliable pass catching RB. 6 hours ago, Jerboski said: He made the playoffs with a terrible roster, won 6 games with an even worse roster and has the second best record in the afc and we are discussing firing him lol wow Actually, he made the playoffs with a decent roster that he inherited and began dismantling. He and Beane finished the job in 2018, so I suppose that they deserve medals if the team manages to win 9 or 10 games with a schedule filled with tankers and bottom feeders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, George C said: Oh brother.ll here comes the bandwagon fans who want instant super bowls . Do you want to become the Browns? Of course we stick with this group..for the next foreseeable future. We need more talent, and it’s coming through the draft.. I don't want instant Superbowls and I understand all about the ill effects of the "coaching carousel" and constant scheme change on a team's ability to improve. But frankly as the dust settles on this humiliating loss, it's all about Inside Zone Left and here's what I mean: There is no such thing as a perfect team without weaknesses an opponent can exploit. But in order to have what it takes to win a championship, a successful championship coach MUST be able to identify when an opponent is exploiting the same weakness play after play, and figure out some kind of counter. The number of blow-out games on McDermott's watch has raised flags in the past. But this is a giant red one. Eagles players openly admit they ran the same play on us again and again to gouge us for run yards, and we couldn't stop it. Now probably that's happened to good coaches in the past and will happen to good coaches in the future. But if it happens again this season, eyebrows should be raised and McDermott's seat temp should elevate to "toasty". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rocket94 said: McDermott is doing a great job. You cannot assemble enough talent to be effective in such a short time. The Bills have had a lot of holes to fill, and obviously their work is not done. Maybe you need to pay some attention to what's going on around the league. These coaches all managed to "assemble enough talent" to be more than "effective" in their first or second years as HC: Andy Reid in KC. Doug Pederson in Philadelphia. Sean McVay with the LA Rams. Anthony Lynn with the LA Chargers. Frank Reich in Indy. Matt LaFleur in Green Bay. McDermott is in his third year, and his team doesn't look much better than a 7-9 win team that might benefit from an easy schedule. Edited October 28, 2019 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, SoTier said: Maybe you need to pay some attention to what's going on around the league. These coaches all managed to "assemble enough talent" to be more than "effective" in their first or second years as HC: Andy Reid in KC. Doug Pederson in Philadelphia. Sean McVay with the LA Rams. Anthony Lynn with the LA Chargers. Frank Reich in Indy. Matt LaFleur in Green Bay. McDermott is in his third year, and his team doesn't look much better than a 7-9 win team that might benefit from an easy schedule. I don't know what to tell you...I see that. I wish I had a crystal ball. All I know is, is that this team needs several upgrades on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Lack of continuity is a HUGE problem in this league, and one of the primary reasons the exact same teams win (or lose) every single year. This regime has finished tearing-down the structure setup by the previous group, and is just starting to put the pieces together of their rebuild. We drafted the cornerstones (Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds) just a year ago. This was the first Free Agent period where our front office actually had cap space to make moves. Depending on the result of the Washington game, we will be on pace for a 10-6 or 12-4 record. That would be a drastic improvement over the last 20 seasons, and evidence we are moving in the right direction. If I'm the Pegulas, this regime gets to the end of 2020 before I even CONSIDER making a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Let me start off by saying not a chicken little thread and I know that we are 5-2 and still have a favorable schedule to get to the playoffs. But that also goes to what I am about to say. Let’s say the Bills do not right the ship. If this season goes like seasons in the past of collapsing down the stretch after a 5-1 now 5-2 start does McD survive? With all the talk of the DNA and Standards and Process you you think McD survives a Bills collapse? BTW add another Blowout loss to the McD resume. I hate you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 This isn't the dumbest that I've seen today but it is kind of like a tribute to the dumbest thread. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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