KOKO NFL Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I've heard all the talk that our second year MLB is a physical freak with size and speed. My eyes, however, tell me he's not tough or instinctive enough to be a good MLB, let alone a great one. IMO Beane and McDermott need to take a serious look at this position in the off season and upgrade. Perhaps Edmonds is better suited for OLB? Fans can speculate but only the coaching staff can make an educated guess. So... is Tremaine Edmunds the answer at MLB? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 No and Ed Oliver isn't the answer at DT either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 How about try Ed Oliver at MLB on run downs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Whenever the Bills play a creative offensive minded coach who has talent, I am left wondering what a lot of guys on defense are. Edited October 27, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Oliver is honestly small looking out there, I hope he grows or something as he matures but at the moment they are just tossing him around with relative ease. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Let's tank and start over 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Edmunds is up and down like allen, some games he is whipping around clicking on all cylinders, other games he is missing horribly and it shows on the TV (like today). Edited October 27, 2019 by BillsFan692 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Eagles are just a really well coached team and it showed today. They ran circles around our D due to some great play calling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: Edmunds is up and down like allen, some gays he is whipping around clicking on all cylinders, other games he is missing horribly and it shows on the TV (like today). I know losing sucks, but isn't this a little extreme? ? 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Yes he’s the answer. Like most linebackers if you have dts that can keep him clean he will make the plays. Bad game from him and Milano tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Edmunds was consistently bad against the run today. He flashed on one play. Outside of that, he was consistently catching blocks and trailing plays. Teams are running right at him, and he isn't stopping anyone in their tracks. Why does he play so close to the LOS? I'd like to see them back him up a yard and allow his speed to make up for his lack of physicality. Edited October 27, 2019 by EmotionallyUnstable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Oliver made some plays today and got pretty good penetration, but like all our D linemen was overwhelmed by their O line. Edmunds got swallowed up by blockers as well. They were just a whole lot better up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Edmunds is not a pound inside MLB. He's an athlete, not a pounder. He'll make plays on the ball carrier, not so much to engage blockers. We need our tackles to tie up multiple blockers to allow him to run and chase. That did not happen against the Eagles which have a very good O-line. In time I believe he'll get better at disengaging a blocker, but he's not there yet. This year he's better at reading plays. Being so young, he is still learning on a pro football field. Some of his flaws would have been worked out in college, but I'm glad he came out early and that we were the team that benefits. Edited October 27, 2019 by familykwi reply to other thread was added here inexplicably 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 When your d line gets their ass kicked your MLB is going to be no factor....everyones. Do you think LB's disengage lineman read the play make the tackle ? They don't if O lineman are allowed to reach the second level your in trouble. Plain and simple the D line was dominated and Frazier and McD couldnt find and answer today. My concern is not Edmunds its the d line with a huge financial investment being man handled all game Secondary concern you had a 50 mph winds to help you - never said make him throw it consistently just allowed to be run over your missing the problem its not the lbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Let's all question every position on the field on both sides of the ball, except for the most important position in all four major sports: QUARTERBACK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: No and Ed Oliver isn't the answer at DT either. I don't even disagree with you but my god you're so ***** annoying This is an Edmunds thread Edited October 27, 2019 by arcane 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, arcane said: I don't even disagree with you but my god you're so ***** annoying This is an Edmunds thread I totally disagree about Edmunds and Oliver. This is the best sports league on the planet. IT IS HARD to play NFL football. Stop commenting as though rookies should all just come in and be dominant, hall-of-fame type talents immediately. McCaffery is playing unreal right now, but he didn't start his career that way. Mahomes sat a year behind Alex friggin Smith. I know how hard this is, but please, for the love of God, have a little perspective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Been a rough couple weeks for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Edmunds has been very disappointing. When a team runs all over you like that, look to the MLB... and he was awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The answer is we don't know. He is still younger than many of the guys that will be drafted next year. We will know by this time next year. McD screwed up in keeping Lorax and not getting a true back-MLB. If they had a better back-up at MLB, they coudl give Edmunds a few snaps a game at OLB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: The answer is we don't know. He is still younger than many of the guys that will be drafted next year. We will know by this time next year. McD screwed up in keeping Lorax and not getting a true back-MLB. If they had a better back-up at MLB, they coudl give Edmunds a few snaps a game at OLB. As much as I love Lorax he is old. Players thst age play second string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: No and Ed Oliver isn't the answer at DT either. Ed Oliver is 21 years old and basically learning a new position. Tremaine Edmunds is 21 years old and already running the defense. I can't believe you're giving up on these guys already. Quitters will be quitters though. Patriots bandwagon is still open, buddy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Edmunds was consistently bad against the run today. He flashed on one play. Outside of that, he was consistently catching blocks and trailing plays. Teams are running right at him, and he isn't stopping anyone in their tracks. Why does he play so close to the LOS? I'd like to see them back him up a yard and allow his speed to make up for his lack of physicality. I don't know...some of it has to do with the play of the D line which was pretty bad 2 weeks in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Ed Oliver is 21 years old and basically learning a new position. Tremaine Edmunds is 21 years old and already running the defense. I can't believe you're giving up on these guys already. Quitters will be quitters though. Patriots bandwagon is still open, buddy. :Lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, arcane said: I don't even disagree with you but my god you're so ***** annoying This is an Edmunds thread Welcome to Joe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Tremaine is similar to Zay Jones. A ton of potential, he just has to get straight in the head. It’s the mental aspect that is struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 He should be the answer, but he had a bad game today. Everyone in the defensive front 7 did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 He has more good games than bad ones and he’s still very young so I am ok w Edmunds. He can be a force, just needs to put more consistency in his game 1 minute ago, Chill said: Tremaine is similar to Zay Jones. A ton of potential, he just has to get straight in the head. It’s the mental aspect that is struggling. Nothing like Jones imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I know today was a loss but let’s not act like edmunds has not played well this year he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 He is better suited for OLB and clearly his height plays against him in tackling vs the inside run, but against the pass game he is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Nope, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2nd year player I’m not worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I still think he’s probably best suited for SLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, ScottLaw said: He's had several bad games. This wasn't the first. It's concerning. And he’s had several good ones. You’re doing your normal thing, only showing up game day after a loss. That’s more sad than how the Bills played today. 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: I still think he’s probably best suited for SLB. His size and range sets him up to cover well. He still needs experience reading run plays but needs to step up more there. It would help if linemen can’t get to the second level so easily. The entire front 7 was bad in run defense today. Their O line killed our D line and vice versa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, Paulus said: Oh man this is what it’s like after a loss on this board! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, fansince88 said: As much as I love Lorax he is old. Players thst age play second string. Lorax should not be on the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: 2nd year player I’m not worried That was a common response in similar threads about Zay Jones a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) I think the OP's main issue/concern is with McD's defensive scheme. The DTs can't be handled like they did, otherwise you get what was seen today, which was the MLB being largely ineffective. Part of that is Edmunds still not completely capable as a run stopper and another part of that is Edmunds not certain of the defensive scheme. The DT's play a larger part in run stopping than the MLB in this defense. Edited October 27, 2019 by Happy Gilmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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