YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 John Brown is on pace to do something that hasn't been done in Buffalo in more than a dozen years. After making five catches for 83 yards during Sunday's 31-21 win over the Miami Dolphins at New Era Field, Brown has 473 receiving yards in the Bills' 5-1 start. That puts him on pace for 1,261 yards this season. If he gets there, he'd be the first Bills receiver to top 1,200 yards in a season since Lee Evans had 1,292 yards in 2006. "He's looking like a No. 1 receiver, because he is a No. 1," defensive end Jerry Hughes said. "He's making all the big plays. Any time we need a big catch, he's doing it." Brown ranks 16th in the NFL in total receiving yards, with 13 of the 15 players ahead of him on the list having played seven games. Among receivers, he's 12th in receiving yards. He also is one of only two players in the league with at least 50 yards receiving in all of his team's games, joining Michael Thomas of the New Orleans Saints. 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 He has an awesome TD celebration dance too! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I know the popular theme right now is us getting that true #1 WR in the offseason. I of course wouldn't say no but I think he we got a true complimentary #2....I think that could also solve our offensive woes. It was supposed to by Zay but he's now the new Antonio Brown with the Raidahs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just need that deep ball connection 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: He has an awesome TD celebration dance too! Yeah it is pretty sharp, wonder if Tre would do the same on a pick 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Just need that deep ball connection he's already had a couple big ones that josh just couldn't get there.... missed him on a huge play in week one down the middle and then again this week on could have been a very large game or a house call with a broken tackle. that's just off the top of my head. hopefully those start dropping in. i'm confident they will. Edited October 21, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The guy catches everything thrown to him. Works his way open when Josh scrambles. All you can ask. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, H2o said: John Brown is on pace right now for 120 catches, 1, 261 yards, and 6 TD's. I'd expect him to end up with closer to 10 TD's as Allen gets better throughout the season. 88 catches. I think you may have been looking at targets. lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just imagine how good John Brown would be if there was a big fast can separate AND Catch guy across from him? To me these there the things needed to get this O into the top 10 OL Cohesion One more legit pass threat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 This is part of why I'd rather see us trade for a pass rusher than a WR. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) I was happy when the Bills signed him, but he has exceeded my expectations. I wasn't aware how good of a route runner he is....always finds a way to get separation and get open. Edited October 21, 2019 by Special K 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: 88 catches. I think you may have been looking at targets. lol. You caught it before I could delete lol Edited October 21, 2019 by H2o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Just need that deep ball connection I just wonder how Schwarz plays Allen this week. He's not much of a cover 1 guy, I don't think, but I could see it this week. Go after Allen and let him try to beat you over the top. Do it until Allen can show he can connect on these deep balls.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I just wonder how Schwarz plays Allen this week. He's not much of a cover 1 guy, I don't think, but I could see it this week. Go after Allen and let him try to beat you over the top. Do it until Allen can show he can connect on these deep balls.... I’d imagine he’s going to blitz quite heavily. Allen has shown he can’t handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d imagine he’s going to blitz quite heavily. Allen has shown he can’t handle it He's not much of a blitzer either but I think you're right....it's what's beating Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Isn't that why he was brought in? to BE the #1??? he's breaking records if I heard correctly Most targets /catches in his first 6 games hell he did it in week 1 too v John Brown breaks team record in Buffalo Bills debut - Bills Wire Edited October 21, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: This is part of why I'd rather see us trade for a pass rusher than a WR. DE/edge, as well as OLB depth, are the biggest needs right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The day of a big dominant play making number one WR being a necessity is over. There’s a variety of ways to put points on the board these days, and having a guy like Brown as the number one is more than good enough. With that said, the most important element in a modern offense is having more than one guy who can step up. Moving forward it’s going to be crucial for guys behind Brown and Beasley to make plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I just wonder how Schwarz plays Allen this week. He's not much of a cover 1 guy, I don't think, but I could see it this week. Go after Allen and let him try to beat you over the top. Do it until Allen can show he can connect on these deep balls.... He doesn’t seem to have the personnel in the secondary to run cover 1 effectively but need to look at it more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: DE/edge, as well as OLB depth, are the biggest needs right now. I admit, part of that is me wanting to see Duke Williams continue to develop - as he seems to have the complimentary traits - paired with the WRs seemingly available. If Browns were making moves I'd take OBJ over an edge player. But as it stands I think pass rush could increase our turnover rate and help the offense with some short fields. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I always liked Brown. I was thrilled when we signed him and he has played great. The problem with any discussion about a "#1 WR" is that ten people have ten different definitions of exactly what "#1 WR" exactly means. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 At $9M per year for 3 years he looks to be another astute signing from Beane.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I always liked Brown. I was thrilled when we signed him and he has played great. The problem with any discussion about a "#1 WR" is that ten people have ten different definitions of exactly what "#1 WR" exactly means. I think the consistency and clutch factors come into play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the consistency and clutch factors come into play Absolutely. I love Brown, probably more than most, and yet "my" personal definition of a #1 WR he probably does not fit. There are only about 12-15 of them in the entire league. To me, Brown is clearly the best of a committee approach, even though he can do the entire route tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 He’s on pace for over 1,200 yards receiving. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I always liked Brown. I was thrilled when we signed him and he has played great. The problem with any discussion about a "#1 WR" is that ten people have ten different definitions of exactly what "#1 WR" exactly means. I always liked Lou Piccone as a #1 WR. It that wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Just need that deep ball connection Josh also need a TE who catches the ball consistently. Would help keep the chains moving and drives alive Edited October 21, 2019 by the skycap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Glad he brought out his patented TD dance. Moves like Jagger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 He's been the most pleasant surprise of the season so far as Allen finally has somebody that consistently gets separation and catches the darn ball almost every time. We need somebody opposite him that has similar ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: DE/edge, as well as OLB depth, are the biggest needs right now. I hope we sign Deone Bucannon sooner rather than later, he's a great fit for our defense in the similar mold to Edmunds and Milano... he's a converted safety with great rangey speed but can also play in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I like the way he wraps himself around the ball and gets tackled without drama. He’s not a big guy by football standards. Self preservation and ball security are more important than one more yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: I always liked Lou Piccone as a #1 WR. It that wrong? Lou Piccone was better on the Sopranos than he was on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The prototypical #1 is not needed in today’s NFL. It’s actually worse for quarterbacks in some situations to have to force feed targets to those guys. Look at the very top receivers in the league. Most of them are on losing teams. Look what Rodgers did without his #1 yesterday. It’s a new league and the name of the game is weapons not #1 receivers. I have said since free agency josh has enough weapons that a good quarterback can make this a potent offense. Beasley and Kroft should be under 10 yard chain movers. Duke and Knox should be able to get your jump 50/50 balls. Foster and Brown are your deep threats. Only brown has shown he’s a threat anywhere not just deep. Plenty of weapons. We are as good as the saints offense. Just a matter of josh using his weapons correctly and making plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Lou Piccone was better on the Sopranos than he was on the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan3434 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The benefit of trading for a #1 receiver (AJ Green, Stefon Diggs comes to mind) is not only their potential, but also now we have much better match ups. For example: John Brown always attracts their #1 corner. The other team's Tre'Davious White, if you will. Now John Brown gets their Levi Wallace or Taron Johnson (#2 corner). Cole Beasley and Duke Williams gets their 3rd and 4th best corner. We will be a matchup nightmare. We don't need to throw it to AJ Green every play, but they have to cover him. And often it will be with two people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It's serendipitous you started this thread because this morning I really started asking myself: With John Brown, is a "true #1 WR threat" really the need we thought it was in the upcoming offseason? The guy has just been balling out. And he really probably should have had over 150 yards receiving yesterday alone if Allen connects with him on that deep ball he got open for and throws it to him on that 3rd down instead of Beasley like Allen should have. Other than I think one ball he dropped this year, Brown has been pretty spectacular and near flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 49 minutes ago, MR8 said: I hope we sign Deone Bucannon sooner rather than later, he's a great fit for our defense in the similar mold to Edmunds and Milano... he's a converted safety with great rangey speed but can also play in the box. He sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Special K said: I was happy when the Bills signed him, but he has exceeded my expectations. I wasn't aware how good of a route runner he is....always finds a way to get separation and get open. Agree. Far from 1 trick pony he looked like in AZ. Also a fine example of how important QB WR chemistry is. He was good with Flacco but numbers dried up completely with Lamar. Ive been impressed with his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 He had been very very good for us. Only thing I want to add is a reciever who can catch 8 to 12 catches a game and go up and get it to compliment Brown. Brown can definitely rack up yards which I like but I'd also like to get a bigger more consistent target who is open even when he is covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, MR8 said: I hope we sign Deone Bucannon sooner rather than later, he's a great fit for our defense in the similar mold to Edmunds and Milano... he's a converted safety with great rangey speed but can also play in the box. That Florida kid they drafted seems like he’s meant to be Milano’s back up. But I guess the way he landed on IR it’s not happening this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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