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As were the Monsters of the Midway or the 2000 Ravens and the Bills can not win every game 17-13?

 

Today we saw Miami almost beat them and if not for a bad Int at the goal line (and subsequent 98 yard drive) and a bad fumble the Bills again play to their competition.

 

This trying to control the clock and game between the 20's is a dangerous recipe and the Bills need to know how to score in the high 20's.

 

 

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But the D in fact did its job and stopped Miami from blowing the game wide open. I will say that Milano was missed out there especially against the run. How can you defend against a QB who is letting it rip within 2 seconds of the snap. Fitz did what he does and it propelled Miami to the near upset. You think there was some secret D play that would have stopped those passes?

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No one in their right mind compared this year’s Bills D to the 2000 Ravens. In the current NFL, they can put a team in great position to win a lot of games. They’re winning while the offense is still figuring things out. There are worse things that could happen. 

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Miami had scored 42 points prior to today & seemed pretty competent on Offense (on the road no less) against a Defense that had some here going on and on about as the best in the league.

2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

One week overreaction?   Okay  

 

Who called them the 85 bears or 00 Ravens btw ?  ??????

Many were calling them the best in the 2019 NFL (or top 3)......

 

And McDermott coaches the Offense as if they are and can win every game 14-10..

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2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Miami had scored 42 points prior to today & seemed pretty competent on Offense (on the road no less) against a Defense that had some here going on and on about as the best in the league.

 

Yeah bye weeks can kind of screw up things...they won. There are no style points. Its a week to week league.

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1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Miami had scored 42 points prior to today & seemed pretty competent on Offense (on the road no less) against a Defense that had some here going on and on about as the best in the league.

The Bills defense is pretty good, one of the better units in the NFL. They had an off day by their current standards. They will never be confused with the ‘85 bears or the 2000 Ravens. 

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5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

 

Many were calling them the best in the 2019 NFL (or top 3)......

 

Nfl.com had them ranked #2 behind the pats based off stats before today.   

 

They were probably stating facts 

 

 

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Not really an excuse, but Miami receivers caught a lot of contested passes, and passes that weren’t that great. 

The Bills still don’t have big, strong, mean, fast receivers.  Duke isn’t fast, but he’s got most of those other characteristics covered. He needs more targets (assuming he’s healthy).

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10 hours ago, CSBill said:

I do wish they would blitz more, and be more creative when they do.

So do I, but it’s just not in their defensive philosophy. An elite DE  obviously helps  the rush and it’s their main weakness , as well as LB depth. 

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1 minute ago, Binghamton Beast said:

OP, why wasn’t this posted earlier, at any time, this season?

 

 

I have.....  It is my continual concern that this coaching staff is too pre-occupied with Defense and thinking that games can be won 17-13, 14-10 on a consistent basis.

 

I want to see this team concentrate on Offense for a change.

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The INT wasn’t even a bad pass. It was a great play by a great player. The play before it was a great play and 8-9 yard loss. They gave up 14 points to the good Fitzy. They were not great, good, bad, or awful. They surely could play a lot better than they did. But while watching I thought they were getting gashed on the ground. But the Fins had 109 yards on 3.6 yards per carry. 

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14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The Monsters of the Midway or the 2000 Ravens and the Bills can not win every game 17-13?

 

Today we saw Miami almost beat them and if not for a bad Int at the goal line (and subsequent 98 yard drive) and a bad fumble the Bills again play to their competition.

 

This trying to control the clock and game between the 20's is a dangerous recipe and the Bills need to know how to score in the high 20's.

 

 


so we’re of the opinion now that the defense has to hold any and all teams to less than 14 points/game and if they don’t they suck? 
 

how about asking the offense to put up anything close to what a “good” offense puts up regularly? Nah we’d have to talk about josh then...

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3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I have.....  It is my continual concern that this coaching staff is too pre-occupied with Defense and thinking that games can be won 17-13, 14-10 on a consistent basis.

 

I want to see this team concentrate on Offense for a change.

 

That's largely what they did this past off season, both draft and FA.  9 of the 11 offensive starters were not on the team last year.

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4 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

Not really an excuse, but Miami receivers caught a lot of contested passes, and passes that weren’t that great. 

The Bills still don’t have big, strong, mean, fast receivers.  Duke isn’t fast, but he’s got most of those other characteristics covered. He needs more targets (assuming he’s healthy).


This. 
 

I think our run D wasn’t good today (though improved a lot after halftime adjustments), but folks on here never want to give credit to the other team. Our pass D was great, and you just have to tip your caps to the Dolphins on making a lot of ridiculous, contested catches. 

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I think they can be the best Defense in the game, for sure. 

I don't understand discrediting the iint or FF ..Phillips had a nice sack the previous play and Tre just made two great plays. Sometimes you have to just tiip ur hat and compliment the player. Tre baited Fitz on that throw. Great play by a great player in a huge spot. We're 5-1 and haven't given up over 21. They did play a bad half but held them to 7 in the 2nd. 

They're elite , and their ceiling is the best in the game 

 

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22 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

The Monsters of the Midway or the 2000 Ravens and the Bills can not win every game 17-13?

 

Today we saw Miami almost beat them and if not for a bad Int at the goal line (and subsequent 98 yard drive) and a bad fumble the Bills again play to their competition.

 

This trying to control the clock and game between the 20's is a dangerous recipe and the Bills need to know how to score in the high 20's.

 

 

Who are you??

 

Go Bills!!!

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16 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

But the D in fact did its job and stopped Miami from blowing the game wide open. I will say that Milano was missed out there especially against the run. How can you defend against a QB who is letting it rip within 2 seconds of the snap. Fitz did what he does and it propelled Miami to the near upset. You think there was some secret D play that would have stopped those passes?

I thought the same too... they really missed Milano against the run. The Dolphins were just simply more physical in the run game for a good part of that game, especially the first half. On the Dolphins' first TD, the Bills front four got great penetration, but then just got pushed back.

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23 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

You need a bye week. 

 

The defense is very good and the strength of this team. They are not "legendary."

 

The team is 5-1 and took the Dolphins best shot today and won by 10.  

Won by 3 in reality.  That onside kick TD was a fluke.  But a win is a win.

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9 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

Won by 3 in reality.  That onside kick TD was a fluke.  But a win is a win.

 

The blocked punt by the Patriots was a fluke, but they blocked our punt which was a major factor in their win.  Points are points, in any facet of the game.

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17 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I have.....  It is my continual concern that this coaching staff is too pre-occupied with Defense and thinking that games can be won 17-13, 14-10 on a consistent basis.

 

I want to see this team concentrate on Offense for a change.


I assure you, the guy who runs our offense, Brian Daboll, isn’t preoccupied with the defense. 

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