BuffaloMatt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: When will Josh Rosen be "NFL ready"? Never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nester Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Makes sense. Trying to keep Rosen alive vs our powerhouse defense. Did he not call out our team for passing on him? "wrong josh" sackfest would have been glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I honestly think we have a better shot against Fitzpatrick even though it screams trap game. His arm is worse than before and he still a slinger. I think we get picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This stuff is so useful, YOLO. I have problems with my eyes (for reals). I laughed until I cried, flushed them out, and they feel so much better now! "I felt like we moved the ball better with Ryan". 3.4 YPA vs 7.3 YPA, 147 yds in 4th Q vs 116 in first 3Q, ya think? I mean, I don't need to feel, I can demonstrate it empirically with the box score and a calculator on the plane ride home. I don't think Flores knows what he's trying to do with the team. "oh oh oh Fitzmagic... you know, never believe he can't throw...." Remember that? but it turned out the color of the jerseys he'd throw to are the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing Rosen play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: How do u make that decision as a HC? Why would you even acquire Rosen if not to see what he can do during the regular season. If he plays poorly or well against a great Bills defense it gives you more information. Playing Fitz does nothing to develop your team. My only adjustment I would make against Fitz instead of Rosen would be to send a few more blitzes early in the game. With Rosen and that O-line, I think they can get enough pressure with just rushing 4. With Fitz, he imploads with pressure and will turn it over. A few well timed pressure packages with zone coverage so the DBs are looking at the QB will force some early turnovers Maybe they have already decided that Rosen is not going to be the answer. 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing Rosen play. Still might get your wish...Fitz might suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: This, taking Rosen for as cheap as they got him made sense if he works out you can use your #1 pick on one of the other numerous holes on the roster. Just seems like the HC isn't on board with getting things figured out with Rosen or he thinks he already has. Either way things are looking like 3 teams in 3 years for Rosen. Rosen was gonna get cut. They had no need to give up a 2nd this year and a 5th for next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, chris heff said: I’m baffled as to why the Dolphins traded for Rosen. If you’re tanking you tank for a QB, so why give up a second and a fifth? And equally baffled as to why they signed Fitzy, or hired Flores for that matter. It seems like they settled on the idea of tanking way too late in the game. If they were gonna Tank For Tua, the QBs should have been your classic 30-something career backup + some 4th round pick. Their coach should’ve been some “interim in all but name” former assistant as sacrificial lamb. I feel sorry for Flores here and Fitzy too. (Not so much for Rosen). This isn’t what they signed up for .... but hey, they seem to have played hard against the Redskins, Fitzy isn’t one to tank anything, and Flores appears to not be one either. So watch out Bills ... it isn’t preordained to be a blowout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: I don't like this one bit. I like guaranteed wins, and with Rosen, this would be guaranteed. Fitzy is a gamer. I know they're bad but I don't need to sweat this one out. I hear you, but I try to look at it this way; if we can't beat the Dolphins at home, the Bills are clearly not as good as we thought they were. Fitz is the better QB. I'm not 100 percent sure this isn't Flores winning a power struggle against management. Edited October 16, 2019 by LSHMEAB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing Rosen play. Same I was hoping Allen would get a chance to beat his whole draft class well maybe we'll get on the Dolphins merrygoround when it's his turn next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Rosen was gonna get cut. They had no need to give up a 2nd this year and a 5th for next. Only if nobody else would trade a 4th for him. And I’m sure many would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Where have we heard that before?? Best chance to win? Win what?? the game or the #1 draft pick ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, WMDman said: I hope we get fitztragic opposed to fitzmagic It's the defense' job to make sure of that. 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Only if nobody else would trade a 4th for him. And I’m sure many would have. OK, so trade a 4th and a 5th for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Hopefully we get this version...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 We need to get into Fitzpatrick's head right off the bat. I was at the Jets Bills game when Fitzpatrick lit us up. I hope they don't take them lightly I don't think McDermott would allow that . If you guys are going to the game make a lot of noise squish the fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Dumbest move ever. This season is done for them. Time to think about the future. Are they saying Rosen is not their future? Fitz certainly isn’t anyone’s future. The only weak defense to this is that they are banking on Fitz’s familiarity with playing in Buffalo. Maybe he’ll throw to the wrong uniforms, although with Fitz is hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's the defense' job to make sure of that. OK, so trade a 4th and a 5th for him. I have no doubt that the Cardinals fielded a number of offers for him, and I really have no reason to believe that the Dolphins grossly overestimated his value. Unless someone has hard evidence to the contrary I always assume that trade value reflects the market for a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Playing Rosen against the Bills D is antisemetism. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Rosen was gonna get cut. They had no need to give up a 2nd this year and a 5th for next. I mean Arizona was spectacularly bad with that whole situation but getting nothing for Rosen would of been next level. Still the main point was getting a former 1st round QB from that weird situation for relatively cheap made plenty of sense they just don't seem be following through on it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Anyone worried about the dolphins chances increasing with Fitz needs to seriously reconsider any belief that the bills are a playoff team. Counterpoint: it's impossible to look at this move and not think that it at least increases the chance of a Dolphins victory. That doesn't mean that the Dolphins will win. They may, for instance, only have gone from a 5% chance at victory to a 10% chance, or whatever arbitrary numbers you want to assign. To say that it DOESN'T increase Miami's chance at victory, though, is wrong. I think just about everyone would agree that Fitz is a better QB than Rosen, and as we have all seen, is capable of having a 4 TD game every now and again. Doesn't mean he WILL, but he's at least shown he's capable of it. Rosen really hasn't. Besides, we saw with Darnold's return against the Cowboys how much a QB change can potentially spark and inspire a formerly winless squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Counterpoint: it's impossible to look at this move and not think that it at least increases the chance of a Dolphins victory. That doesn't mean that the Dolphins will win. They may, for instance, only have gone from a 5% chance at victory to a 10% chance, or whatever arbitrary numbers you want to assign. To say that it DOESN'T increase Miami's chance at victory, though, is wrong. I think just about everyone would agree that Fitz is a better QB than Rosen, and as we have all seen, is capable of having a 4 TD game every now and again. Doesn't mean he WILL, but he's at least shown he's capable of it. Rosen really hasn't. Besides, we saw with Darnold's return against the Cowboys how much a QB change can potentially spark and inspire a formerly winless squad. Maybe but I'd say the main thing is whoever they start the ball is still in the Bills court to ***** up for them to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean Arizona was spectacularly bad with that whole situation but getting nothing for Rosen would of been next level. Still the main point was getting a former 1st round QB from that weird situation for relatively cheap made plenty of sense they just don't seem be following through on it. I agree with your main point that getting a 1st rd QB in his second season makes sense if you want to put pieces around him and see what he's got. Holding a fire sale on your LT and WR before the season then makes no sense. If you're looking for Cannon Fodder, that can be had for no cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Not going to lie, this has me a tiny bit worried. We've seen Fitzmagic in person too many times to feel completely comfortable about this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Counterpoint: it's impossible to look at this move and not think that it at least increases the chance of a Dolphins victory. That doesn't mean that the Dolphins will win. They may, for instance, only have gone from a 5% chance at victory to a 10% chance, or whatever arbitrary numbers you want to assign. To say that it DOESN'T increase Miami's chance at victory, though, is wrong. I think just about everyone would agree that Fitz is a better QB than Rosen, and as we have all seen, is capable of having a 4 TD game every now and again. Doesn't mean he WILL, but he's at least shown he's capable of it. Rosen really hasn't. Besides, we saw with Darnold's return against the Cowboys how much a QB change can potentially spark and inspire a formerly winless squad. Oh I know, my point was that if we can't beat the dolphins short of Dan Marino in his prime walking out that tunnel, we aren't doing jack ***** this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Counterpoint: it's impossible to look at this move and not think that it at least increases the chance of a Dolphins victory. That doesn't mean that the Dolphins will win. They may, for instance, only have gone from a 5% chance at victory to a 10% chance, or whatever arbitrary numbers you want to assign. To say that it DOESN'T increase Miami's chance at victory, though, is wrong. I think just about everyone would agree that Fitz is a better QB than Rosen, and as we have all seen, is capable of having a 4 TD game every now and again. Doesn't mean he WILL, but he's at least shown he's capable of it. Rosen really hasn't. Besides, we saw with Darnold's return against the Cowboys how much a QB change can potentially spark and inspire a formerly winless squad. Logic would tell you that; logic would not, considering they just did that two weeks ago and it did not work. Not to mention that the two situations are completely different. I agree that for this game, Fitz gives them a better chance to win. Not a good one but better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Counterpoint: it's impossible to look at this move and not think that it at least increases the chance of a Dolphins victory. That doesn't mean that the Dolphins will win. They may, for instance, only have gone from a 5% chance at victory to a 10% chance, or whatever arbitrary numbers you want to assign. To say that it DOESN'T increase Miami's chance at victory, though, is wrong. I think just about everyone would agree that Fitz is a better QB than Rosen, and as we have all seen, is capable of having a 4 TD game every now and again. Doesn't mean he WILL, but he's at least shown he's capable of it. Rosen really hasn't. Besides, we saw with Darnold's return against the Cowboys how much a QB change can potentially spark and inspire a formerly winless squad. Fitzy can be a leader with the "It" factor that inspires a team, no doubt. But it doesn't seem to have worked on the Dolphins so far, unless 4Q in Washington is a harbringer. And even then, Fitz was hamstrung by a dumbass play call for 2 pt conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aussie Joe Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Take the Dolphins and the points boys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Have we played Fitzpatrick since he left? I can’t remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: Have we played Fitzpatrick since he left? I can’t remember Houston and Jets... maybe more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Why would they announce it now, I wonder? Why not wait till later in the week? Media can't watch team portions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Guys guys guys, this all makes sense from the tanking perspective. Fitz still likes Buffalo and he is trying to do us a solid. He will lose the game in spectacular fashion so that they will have to go to Rosen for the rest of the year. This is his gift to us before he leaves the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Have we played Fitzpatrick since he left? I can’t remember Yes - 2x vs jets, once vs Houston, maybe more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Fitz may have some of that moxie left in him still, but it really won’t matter Sunday. The surrounding cast is so terrible Buffalo’s going to grind them into dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Let's give Fitz a standing O. Then stuff him in a locker. Pin him down and shave his beard off. It’s his magical leprechaun source of power. Edited October 16, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Damn. I like Fitz. Woulda preferred to pummel Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Bills D gonna feast on Fitztragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Why would they announce it now, I wonder? Why not wait till later in the week? Media can't watch team portions. Exactly another DUMB thing, they should have played this close to the vest and forced Bills to prep for two QBs that are totally different in style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 This game is going to be a lot closer now. Wouldn’t be surprised if it is another nail biter. Can’t underestimate how much of a gamer Fitz is. If “good” Fitz shows up, it will be a tough game (seriously). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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