Albany,n.y. Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 McCoy is starting Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Given the circumstances he's faced, I think he's done about the best job possible. It's been obvious that the desire of the front office was to fire him ever since the Allen took back the reins of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, stosh64 said: They play week 6 so that won't be an issue. Watch the phins win, it would be just their luck. 0-15-1, a 0 - 0 tie followed by Rock Paper Scissors couldn’t determine a winner... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: When you look at who the Redskins had on their coaching staff while Gruden has been the HC, it’s shockingly hilarious he still has his job. I mean they had some of the top young coaches in the NFL there, headlined by McVay. Gruden should be and likely will be first HC fired this year. I pray for this Gruden, anybody who can survive 6(?) seasons w that owner has a lot of moxie.....but, everything wears out sooner or later...he deserves a year or two off...to reestablish the what the world is like w/0 Dan Snyder lurking everywhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, stosh64 said: They play week 6 so that won't be an issue. Watch the phins win, it would be just their luck. This is exactly what I’m hoping for.... Rosen knocked out, and Fitzmagic shows up with a career day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Considering the success of Urban Meyer QBs its understandable, but with teams useing more college concepts he should have a better shot than those of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: So who takes over in Washington on Monday? Does Rob Ryan finally get his HC job???? Crazier things have happened in Deadskin land. In any case, McCoy will likely start Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
416BillsFan Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: So who takes over in Washington on Monday? Does Rob Ryan finally get his HC job???? What's the record for most sacks by a single player in a single game? Asking for Jerry Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Considering the success of Urban Meyer QBs its understandable, but with teams useing more college concepts he should have a better shot than those of the past. Urban Meyer’s college scheme wasn’t used for Haskins so it doesn’t matter in this case. You wouldn’t use any of those concepts. He doesn’t run - he isn’t even that mobile. He doesn’t run the zone read. He’s a straight up pro style QB. Edited October 4, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: how important it is to have the coach and gm on the same page. that's a tire fire now and even the new gm coach may not want him and owner. The two can be on the same page, but an owner like Snyder butts in and screws everything up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good grief. Why? Only the shadow knows and I “assume” Jay might know. ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 59 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said: What's the record for most sacks by a single player in a single game? Asking for Jerry Hughes. Seven, by Derek Thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyea Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1847670/report-gruden-didnt-want-to-draft-haskins-overruled-by-owner-snyder Consciencly speaking. It's obvious J Gruden has had everything handed to him. Even his philosophy of life, his philosophy or knowledge of football. He believes these things are true. That they will work. He's stubborn with it. Let's call him conservative. Believing what is false. Something his 4 father's invested in him passed down. The whole world knows the truth. His game plan, game planning are below professional standards. He's a indirect coach. My meaning for that is or example. Coach who does not directly correct, disciplin, leading ect.... Then he acts innocent an unaware. PRIVILEGED!. I DARE NOT SAY! He's living his grandfather's dream. He's not passionate about football. Extraordinary coaches use what they have to get what they want. It takes great imagination, passion ect... HE DOESN'T GOT IT! Snyder needs to clean house! Fire Gruden an the one who came up with the Idea to hire him! You're rich man why you holding on to this trash! Are you a hoarder? You need intervention? You need big dose of consideration. Stop betting against your own team. Quote Consciencly speaking. It's obvious J Gruden has had everything handed to him. Even his philosophy of life, his philosophy or knowledge of football. He believes these things are true. That they will work. He's stubborn with it. Let's call him conservative. Believing what is false. Something his 4 father's invested in him passed down. The whole world knows the truth. His game plan, game planning are below professional standards. He's a indirect coach. My meaning for that is or example. Coach who does not directly correct, disciplin, leading ect.... Then he acts innocent an unaware. PRIVILEGED!. I DARE NOT SAY! He's living his grandfather's dream. He's not passionate about football. Extraordinary coaches use what they have to get what they want. It takes great imagination, passion ect... HE DOESN'T GOT IT! Snyder needs to clean house! Fire Gruden an the one who came up with the Idea to hire him! You're rich man why you holding on to this trash! Are you a hoarder? You need intervention? You need big dose of consideration. Stop betting against your own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyea Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Consciencly speaking. It's obvious J Gruden has had everything handed to him. Even his philosophy of life, his philosophy or knowledge of football. He believes these things are true. That they will work. He's stubborn with it. Let's call him conservative. Believing what is false. Something his 4 father's invested in him passed down. The whole world knows the truth. His game plan, game planning are below professional standards. He's a indirect coach. My meaning for that is or example. Coach who does not directly correct, disciplin, leading ect.... Then he acts innocent an unaware. PRIVILEGED!. I DARE NOT SAY! He's living his grandfather's dream. He's not passionate about football. Extraordinary coaches use what they have to get what they want. It takes great imagination, passion ect... HE DOESN'T GOT IT! Snyder needs to clean house! Fire Gruden an the one who came up with the Idea to hire him! You're rich man why you holding on to this trash! Are you a hoarder? You need intervention? You need big dose of consideration. Stop betting against your own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 All the members of the media who mock drafted Haskins to the NYG and then attacked Gettleman for choosing Jones are complaining that they're sick of crow for dinner every night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Jim Tomsula is on the staff if they fancy an internal promotion.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 When the owner of the team wants a QB and the HC doesn't want him, guess who wins ... Jay, maybe your bro will hire you in OakVegas. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Dan Snyder is just a rich fan who bought a team & thinks that makes him a football executive. I could easily see the following having taken place: Haskins was more media hype than top prospect. No one talked about him until the end of the year when focus shifted to the draft and there was no top QB prospect . Sports media needed the big QB prospect for ratings & Haskins fit the bill. He had the stats, frame, arm, and D1 success. Top draft pundits propped him up, other draft pundits repeated what those guys said, and voila, Haskins becomes a top 5 prospect. Real NFL execs don't pay much mind to media evaluations, but fans do. And Dan Snyder is a fan. So when the media's top 5 prospect fell to 15, Snyder thought it was too good to pass up. The experienced football professionals he hired to run his team disagreed, but he knows better, so he overruled them and pulled the trigger. Now Washington has a project QB who's nowhere near ready for prime time, with all the pressure and expectations of a first round QB, and a coach who never wanted him. What they don't have is an impact player they could have taken with the 15th overall pick. Jay Gruden will take the fall for failing to make chicken salad out of chicken *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 The ever meddling owner. Remember that Shanahan didn’t want RG3 but Snyder forced him on him. How many playoff games has your team won, Dan? 1-3 in 20 seasons! At least meddlesome Jerry has won Super Bowls! Now they announce Colt McCoy is starting! I think Gruden is trying to get fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Gruden is getting a tough rep and is taking the heat for the Redskins' woes, and it's more the fault of people above him. His seat may be hot, but I don't think it's truly warranted. That said, getting axed by the Skins might be the best thing for him. Edited October 5, 2019 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 If he does get canned maybe we can pick him up as the offensive cocoordinator. He does have some offensive vision and he has blue chip blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Quite the video of him circling the web tonight.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Question...Has there ever been a successful NFL QB from Ohio State? My memory fails me on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Jim Tomsula is on the staff if they fancy an internal promotion.... How dare they not consider Rob Ryan first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Question...Has there ever been a successful NFL QB from Ohio State? My memory fails me on this. No, but that has nothing at all to do with Dwayne Haskins. Just as all the previous nfl QBs from Texas tech have nothing to do with Mahomes and so on. Programs, coaches, and schemes change over the years. Haskins is a Ryan Day/Quincy Avery coached QB. The O on his helmet pertains to his brotherhood, not his nfl prowess. That’s just how it is these days. Edited October 5, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: No, but that has nothing at all to do with Dwayne Haskins. Just as all the previous nfl QBs from Texas tech have nothing to do with Mahomes and so on. Programs, coaches, and schemes change over the years. Haskins is a Ryan Day/Quincy Avery coached QB. The O on his helmet pertains to his brotherhood, not his nfl prowess. That’s just how it is these days. I'm not trying to slam Ohio State. I was just asking. It does seem that due to injury or coaching changes many QBs come out with only one year in that position. May be a disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I'm not trying to slam Ohio State. I was just asking. It does seem that due to injury or coaching changes many QBs come out with only one year in that position. May be a disadvantage. Oh i know - Tbh they just haven’t had any nfl caliber QBs. That may change. I think Haskins is a Real one. Edited October 5, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Oh i know - Tbh they just haven’t had any nfl caliber QBs. That may change. I think Haskins is a Real one. Do you think having only one year under his belt hurts him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, jkeerie said: Do you think having only one year under his belt hurts him? I think he could have benefited from another year but not realistic to think he wouldn’t declare with a 1st rd grade. I think he needed a redshirt year but in the nfl it almost never works that way. Trubisky only played one year in college as well, I do think it’s a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think he could have benefited from another year but not realistic to think he wouldn’t declare with a 1st rd grade. I think he needed a redshirt year but in the nfl it almost never works that way. Trubisky only played one year in college as well, I do think it’s a challenge. May just take him longer. Having more years under your belt makes it easier. Case in point, Gardner Minshew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: May just take him longer. Having more years under your belt makes it easier. Case in point, Gardner Minshew. Baker mayfield. Etc. experience helps a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Baker mayfield. Etc. experience helps a lot. I was even surprised at how well Trace McSorley looked in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Oyea said: Consciencly speaking. It's obvious J Gruden has had everything handed to him. Even his philosophy of life, his philosophy or knowledge of football. He believes these things are true. That they will work. He's stubborn with it. Let's call him conservative. Believing what is false. Something his 4 father's invested in him passed down. The whole world knows the truth. His game plan, game planning are below professional standards. He's a indirect coach. My meaning for that is or example. Coach who does not directly correct, disciplin, leading ect.... Then he acts innocent an unaware. PRIVILEGED!. I DARE NOT SAY! He's living his grandfather's dream. He's not passionate about football. Extraordinary coaches use what they have to get what they want. It takes great imagination, passion ect... HE DOESN'T GOT IT! Snyder needs to clean house! Fire Gruden an the one who came up with the Idea to hire him! You're rich man why you holding on to this trash! Are you a hoarder? You need intervention? You need big dose of consideration. Stop betting against your own team. Antonio, is that really you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 hours ago, ColeB said: The ever meddling owner. Remember that Shanahan didn’t want RG3 but Snyder forced him on him. How many playoff games has your team won, Dan? 1-3 in 20 seasons! At least meddlesome Jerry has won Super Bowls! Now they announce Colt McCoy is starting! I think Gruden is trying to get fired. I let a lot of bad insults go but man... that one stings around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Urban Meyer’s college scheme wasn’t used for Haskins so it doesn’t matter in this case. You wouldn’t use any of those concepts. He doesn’t run - he isn’t even that mobile. He doesn’t run the zone read. He’s a straight up pro style QB. didn't know that, he should have a better chance then. The most important thing any college QB has to do is be able to read NFL defenses and make quick decisions, if he can do that he is golden if not he won't make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 15 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: But the problem is, is that Colt is nothing more than a below average game manager and your never gonna win with a QB like that starting for your team Mark Rypien and Doug Williams say, “hello!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: How dare they not consider Rob Ryan first ....because the HC spot comes with an "all you can eat meal ticket"..........could lead to Chapter 11............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This should end well.... just keep your hands off of Daboll and Frazier Mr Schneider but would you trade either (actually allow them to take the job if they wanted it) for Trent Williams and a 2nd in next year's draft (I'd want a first but I doubt they would give that up) Edited October 5, 2019 by entropyrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 14 hours ago, Oyea said: Consciencly speaking. It's obvious J Gruden has had everything handed to him. Even his philosophy of life, his philosophy or knowledge of football. He believes these things are true. That they will work. He's stubborn with it. Let's call him conservative. Believing what is false. Something his 4 father's invested in him passed down. The whole world knows the truth. His game plan, game planning are below professional standards. He's a indirect coach. My meaning for that is or example. Coach who does not directly correct, disciplin, leading ect.... Then he acts innocent an unaware. PRIVILEGED!. I DARE NOT SAY! He's living his grandfather's dream. He's not passionate about football. Extraordinary coaches use what they have to get what they want. It takes great imagination, passion ect... HE DOESN'T GOT IT! Snyder needs to clean house! Fire Gruden an the one who came up with the Idea to hire him! You're rich man why you holding on to this trash! Are you a hoarder? You need intervention? You need big dose of consideration. Stop betting against your own team. Is there a translated version of this post? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, entropyrules said: but would you trade either (actually allow them to take the job if they wanted it) for Trent Williams and a 2nd in next year's draft (I'd want a first but I doubt they would give that up) Not really. I’m happy with these coordinators. I can’t remember when it felt like threre was modern nfl competence on both sides. ST needs some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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