rayray808 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) WEEK 1: B- WEEK 2: B WEEK 3: C+ WEEK 4: F I will keep it as simple as I can. I am the biggest bandwagon Josh Allen fan there quite possibly is. Trust me. He lost the game for us today plain and simple. We donʻt need high level stats to analyze. HE lost the game for us. The only thing I will forever be curious about is if he wasnʻt KOʻd, how those last possessions would have looked? Edited September 30, 2019 by rayray808 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) I'm pretty sure he would have found a way to drive for the 4th quarter TD, but he for sure didn't do himself any favors through 3 quarters. Edited September 30, 2019 by MJS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 F- F for the game and the minus for getting knocked out and possibly missing some time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 BB has made a lot of QB's look futile during his tenure in the league. Daboll should have tried to keep Josh out of some of those plays. Allen's execution on the opening drive of the second half is a perfect example. And like you I am very curious How Josh would have finished that game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Josh completely melted down. I've been really encouraged besides a few moments but today was probably his worst game yet including last year. He's making the same mistakes he made last year which honestly were not showing up earlier this very season. Adversity hits and he forgets how to play. If he doesn't get that hero moment, it's a complete melt down. On to Tennessee, heal up. Be ready Barkley. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, DRA3196 said: BB has made a lot of QB's look futile during his tenure in the league. Daboll should have tried to keep Josh out of some of those plays. Allen's execution on the opening drive of the second half is a perfect example. And like you I am very curious How Josh would have finished that game. Yeah, would have been nice to just have Allen throw screens and short passes all day. Get the ball out of his hands. But cantt ever really take the Allen out of Josh Allen. It's who he is. He's a risk taker and NEVER gives up on a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 It's called regression. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I don't recall him ever looking that bad, certainly not this year but not even in his rookie year. Did BB get inside his head? I don't know but whatever the reason, he just looked completely incapable. There were open receivers he didn't see, and he missed so many throw you wonder if he wasn't injured before the helmet to helmet cheap shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He played so badly it looked like he was paid off by draft kings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The regression is real. Looked like a rookie out there and took several unnecessary hits. Pretty Billsy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The hot garbage Allen hater takes are comical. Way to overreact 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) The majority of the offense looked out of sync. Josh we know (been beat to death); but the tackles played poorly, the WRs were having trouble getting seperation, and the offensive game plan looked completely different than the first few weeks. The interior line and Gore were impressive though. Edited September 30, 2019 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Allen was flat out awful and lost the game pure and simple. He gets sacked time and time again when in field goal range and plays stupid football as he throws prayers that get picked off. He just doesn't learn .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He played bad. Show all the plays he had time and missed guys. There were a few. The line was awful. The receivers were not getting open. Josh was holding the ball too long and misfiring at times. He threw into double coverage which is inexcusable but it's also true ten receivers were not getting open all day. Not trying to be a homer, he was bad overall. But he was forcing things not missing wide open receivers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 45 minutes ago, MJS said: Yeah, would have been nice to just have Allen throw screens and short passes all day. Get the ball out of his hands. But cantt ever really take the Allen out of Josh Allen. It's who he is. He's a risk taker and NEVER gives up on a play. Like McDermott said at the post game presser. Josh has to learn to take what the defense gives him. It is way to costly when he tries to do too much. I am just chalking up his performance today to growing pains. He will learn what to do and when to do it. Loved the fact that Daboll was seen in his face today. He needs to be called out and held accountable. The team goals are bigger than his personal "wants". I believe he will learn. and I do believe it might take most if not all of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 NE seems to have a pretty good defense. Ask.......anyone who watches football. We have a great D. They have a great D. They have the GOAT at QB, we have essentially a rookie. And then special teams decided the game. Go figure. We are close, if today is any indication. Josh will calm down given a bit more experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 F Probably one of the worst games he’s played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 F He was brutal today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said: F- F for the game and the minus for getting knocked out and possibly missing some time You cant fault Allen for getting knocked out of the game when he gets cheap shotted....that is just stupid That said....F...cant turn the ball over overthrow WR's that have separation in a position to score touchdowns. 40 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Allen was flat out awful and lost the game pure and simple. He gets sacked time and time again when in field goal range and plays stupid football as he throws prayers that get picked off. He just doesn't learn .... He helped to lose the game......the punt block for a TD also contributed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 worst part about him not being able to finish this game, is the fact that he might not be able to play next week to show us if he can learn from his mental errors ? my body was not ready for a let down of this magnitude... I would rather have us lost by 14 points but show that he can still make good decisions as a QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 He psyched himself out. It was a total train wreck. I hope he bounces back. Both physically and mentally this game could change the trajectory of his career. That's how bad Allen's game was, and how bad his injury looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 If he can just learn to manage the game and not turn the ball over at an all time clip he would be getting a solid passing grade. Daboll could help him by running the ball more and scaling back Allen’s pass attempts. Work off play action a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, wvbillsfan said: If he can just learn to manage the game and not turn the ball over at an all time clip he would be getting a solid passing grade. Daboll could help him by running the ball more and scaling back Allen’s pass attempts. Work off play action a little more. I agree with this but at the same time I am super curious if he is still making critical misread errors on the deep ball? Is Daboll making his first and second read the underneath stuff but he sees the homerun ball in his mind and just launches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Week 1: D+ Week 2: A Week 3: C- Week 4: F- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, rayray808 said: I agree with this but at the same time I am super curious if he is still making critical misread errors on the deep ball? Is Daboll making his first and second read the underneath stuff but he sees the homerun ball in his mind and just launches? Anytime the option is Cole Beasley on a sideline go pattern I gotta think he’s making poor decisions. Two times today he tried to hit Beasley by dropping it in the bucket down the sideline when he had the underneath guy wide open. Zay jones first and then Yeldon second. Like McD said, Josh has to learn to take what the defense gives him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Yea it is an F. The kid has moxie, no doubt. He demonstrated little else on Sunday sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, rayray808 said: He lost the game for us today plain and simple. We donʻt need high level stats to analyze. HE lost the game for us. The hard question is: what evidence have we seen that he is going to be any good? So far he looks like EJ Manuel 2.0, right down to getting badly injured on an ill-advised run. In the first half I thought Josh was wandering into the Peterman Zone, where everything is going so badly that he panics into more mistakes. Hate to say it but Barkley looked like he has a better idea of how to play football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, pop gun said: The hot garbage Allen hater takes are comical. Way to overreact Overreact? It's impossible to overreact to what was an all-time awful performance by a Bills QB, ranking up there with Peterman against the Chargers. Even a reasonably mediocre NFL performance and the Bills win that game. Even with the awful refereeing and the blocked punt. It's not like it's his first NFL game, not like he's never done the same stupid, reckless things. To paraphrase Dennis Green, "He is who we were afraid he is." Unless you're blind from thick rose colored glasses, then you too have to be worried that he's not the long-awaited answer we all hoped he was. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, yungmack said: Overreact? It's impossible to overreact to what was an all-time awful performance by a Bills QB, ranking up there with Peterman against the Chargers. Even a reasonably mediocre NFL performance and the Bills win that game. Even with the awful refereeing and the blocked punt. It's not like it's his first NFL game, not like he's never done the same stupid, reckless things. To paraphrase Dennis Green, "He is who we were afraid he is." Unless you're blind from thick rose colored glasses, then you too have to be worried that he's not the long-awaited answer we all hoped he was. bull####. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 WTF- Reminded me of the Peterman meltdown. So many bad decisions, so many off-target throws when he had plenty of time and an open man, so many throws off the back foot. Holding onto the ball forever, 3 terrible picks, then gets his bell rung for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Allen played the same against the Jets, except he was able to come in and get a 4th quarter comeback. But he did not have that opportunity yesterday, unfortunately. The punt block was the killer. Does our punt team know what to do when they are facing 10 rushers? Off topic: Pats* punter is fantastic. Duke Williams probably catches that 4th down TD pass. This game was there for the taking, but we could not completely overcome the punt block, all four turnovers, and the tripping no-call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: bull####. How is it bu###,. Allen is very inconsistent. If he wasn't a Bill you would be all over him like you were with Mayfield. When I see QBs like Allen in Carolina and Minshew in Jacksonville be much better, you have to question how Allen can still struggle playing QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just now, Jrb1979 said: How is it bu###,. Allen is very inconsistent. If he wasn't a Bill you would be all over him like you were with Mayfield. When I see QBs like Allen in Carolina and Minshew in Jacksonville be much better, you have to question how Allen can still struggle playing QB. Yeah, whatever. I'm not wasting time on you, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Allen gets a D- from me today. Just terrible, reason why they lost. So disappointing. Probably the best defense in the league geared to stop Brady and the offense once again was the reason for the loss. Only reason he doesn't get an F is he was injured and could not finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Yeah, whatever. I'm not wasting time on you, pal. Yeah cause what I said is true. You can't see it through your rose colored glasses. I realize you don't want to hear the negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) D- first half, but he was trending towards an A+ 2nd half. Not getting to play the whole game and determine the outcome I give him an incomplete. I’m guessing most of the replies to this topic are from new or young fans!? It took Peyton Manning about 7 years to figure out how to beat the Bellicheck defense. Our punting killed us far more than Josh’s interceptions. We gave up a punt block TD and had ~20 yard punts. Most of his INTs were deep passes that gave New England worse field position than our punt team would have given them. Hauschka’s miss caused us to not attempt what would have been game tying / game winning field goals. You can’t put Haushka’s miss completely on Allen. Josh was clearly bouncing back from a rough first half and looked on track to pick up the W. The cheap shot just sucks. Edited September 30, 2019 by Troll Toll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 8 hours ago, rayray808 said: WEEK 1: B- WEEK 2: B WEEK 3: C+ WEEK 4: F I will keep it as simple as I can. I am the biggest bandwagon Josh Allen fan there quite possibly is. Trust me. He lost the game for us today plain and simple. We donʻt need high level stats to analyze. HE lost the game for us. The only thing I will forever be curious about is if he wasnʻt KOʻd, how those last possessions would have looked? Incomplete. In in spite of the bad day, the Bills were within 6 in the 4th when he does what many QBs can/will not do. He scrambles for a first down to try and move the chains. At home, (almost inconceivably) a close game, fighting to the end. If he doesn’t take the shot to the head, goes on to score and the Bills pull out the upset, he gets the benefit of the curve and his grade is no longer an F. It might be a D, but a D with a W is better than an F and knocked out of the game. And he didn’t “lose the game”, even taking your word you are the biggest homer. 10-10 absent the ST punt. 17-16 if Barkley leads them to a TD. Other players CAN do things to help the team. A broken tackle. A linemen opening a hole. A dB back picking off the other Qb. A forced fumble on a run. A return for a TD. Coaching decisions to go for the 3 instead of 6. Missed field goal. In fact, SH makes the first kick, gives us the benefit of settling for 3 on the first Barkley drive, and we’re playing for the win on the last drive. Jesus, I’ve convinced myself it’s a conspiracy from the inside out!! (But absolutely agree he played poorly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 When the defense has you under pressure, and you are running backwards with 1-2 guys in your face or even touching you.... do NOT throw the ball forward into the field of play off your back foot. That is basically what he keeps doing. And yes, the ball goes far because he is strong... then we see about a 50% INT rate, maybe 35% incomplete, and 15% miracle plays. Make it stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Allen looked bad all game except for the opening drive of the second half but was not the reason for the loss. The defense was spectacular. The putting game cost us the game. The block for the 3rd and consistently bad kicks and coverage was the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 These will be distributed to the Nancy's for Christmas this year: He is in "regression" because of this bad game against a really good defense. People are talking like his career is over and we need to be looking for another QB. You guys make me laugh acting like a bunch of . Thankfully none of you run the team. Hope you're working on your material for the next string of threads after we lose another game, because it will happen and the Club will be out in full force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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