Rocket94 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoeF said: In the end, I think AB just rubbed Kraft the wrong way... (credit: Read it on twitter but thought it was funny) So he was overrated all along! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They still owe it. It was guaranteed. I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How can you make that guarantee? Based on your responses and assertions. You have an aggressive, hostile, egotistic nature that paints an accurate picture of who you are and how you operate. Hostility and blanket assertions to something you simply just don't know about--which is not a big deal--shows you have a very conditioned mind. If I don't know about something I listen and like to learn about it--I don't dismiss anything outright. Have a good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I hope Antonio can take some time to reflect and heal. It's sad, pride is a very dangerous and slippery thing. I hope he can turn his life around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid They did put clauses in the contract, but those are standard and not special to them or him. they can’t just make the determination themselves that he was detrimental. If they refuse to pay he can file a grievance and fight that through arbritration and they may or may not have to pay the two gtd payments left of 5 mill and 4 mill. Per Albert breer, The 5 mill due on Monday is a signing bonus and recovering signing bonus money is more difficult, as that is covered under the CBA, not individual contracts. One way to get signing bonus money back is non-disclosure. The reality is that the burden of proof will be on the Patriots to provide hard evidence that they had no knowledge of the allegations prior to his signing. Most everyone believes Rosenhaus gave belichick a heads up. Edited September 21, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid The first payment is due this coming Monday. The detrimental to the team clause will need to be decided by an arbitrator if NE refuses to pay and AB demands payment based on the collective bargaining agreement. So at this moment- NE is on the hook for the money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The first payment is due this coming Monday. The detrimental to the team clause will need to be decided by an arbitrator if NE refuses to pay and AB demands payment based on the collective bargaining agreement. So at this moment- NE is on the hook for the money. Well, my hope is it is a big ugly mess and the Pats are distracted by it? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: Well, my hope is it is a big ugly mess and the Pats are distracted by it? Wish it would have happened 1 week from now, if that's the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Pat's should lose a draft pick just for signing this A***hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, ko12010 said: I'll be passing this on to the proper people. Have a drink and relax my friend. It's Friday night and the world is yours. For me, the whole AB thing has turned into a soap opera and thus lost all appeal. I'll watch TMZ if I want to see celebrity gossip(which I don't). Couldn't care less about the guy's personal life. I'll tune back in if/when he returns to an NFL roster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ko12010 said: Based on your responses and assertions. You have an aggressive, hostile, egotistic nature that paints an accurate picture of who you are and how you operate. Hostility and blanket assertions to something you simply just don't know about--which is not a big deal--shows you have a very conditioned mind. If I don't know about something I listen and like to learn about it--I don't dismiss anything outright. Have a good night. According to research, the mind has between 60,000-80,000 thoughts per day. I’ve lived approximately 13,000 days. You’re telling me that in my roughly 910,000,000 thoughts...not at least one has been original? That’s pretty incredible....you’d think I’d get lucky once. Edited September 21, 2019 by Royale with Cheese 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Charlie Sheen thinks this guy is off the rails 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 No wait! When I was 18, I invented the Snuggie. I was a poor college student and in the winter I wouldn’t use my heat to save money. I went to WalMart and bought a XXL bathrobe ...put it on backwards so I could cover up and have sleeves. Then I saw the Snuggie commercial a few years later and saw that it sold over 1,000,000 blankets. I was so devastated that I started drinking a lot and became a huge Nickelback fan. Those were some bad years... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He did it all wrong. If he had only broken his kids arm while choking the kids mom or beaten the kids ***** bloody with a whip, he would be fine. He’s so dumb! So sad, so true for the hypocrisy pervading many teams in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) Denlesks @Denlesks· 5h Patriots owner Robert Kraft said Antonio Brown played well but rubbed him the wrong way He does know what he likes....... Edited September 21, 2019 by sven233 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They did put clauses in the contract, but those are standard and not special to them or him. they can’t just make the determination themselves that he was detrimental. If they refuse to pay he can file a grievance and fight that through arbritration and they may or may not have to pay the two gtd payments left of 5 mill and 4 mill. Per Albert breer, The 5 mill due on Monday is a signing bonus and recovering signing bonus money is more difficult, as that is covered under the CBA, not individual contracts. One way to get signing bonus money back is non-disclosure. The reality is that the burden of proof will be on the Patriots to provide hard evidence that they had no knowledge of the allegations prior to his signing. Most everyone believes Rosenhaus gave belichick a heads up. AB better be saving those shekels as his window appears to be closing on further lucrative NFL checks...but then again he’s been saving some already at the expense of many who’ve had to chase him down for nonpayment, so he must be playing 4D chess of his own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 What I just have to shake my head at, from what was written before this woman filed the suit against him, they were working on getting signed a confidential agreement which would have paid her an undisclosed amount of cash in turn for her forgetting this ever happened. But AB said no at the 11th hour so she sued. Seems like another example of him just thinking he's bigger than everyone else, he doesn't need to sign this and everything will be fine. How many millions is he costing himself. Agents get paid is it 10% of the contract, seems Drew is working overtime for little return on the $$. Wonder next if he'll be dropping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 hours ago, stevewin said: What if it wasnt possible for your "respect" for the club to be undermined any further? Yeah, that would be kind of like limbo dancing under the belly of an alligator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathja Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: No wait! When I was 18, I invented the Snuggie. I was a poor college student and in the winter I wouldn’t use my heat to save money. I went to WalMart and bought a XXL bathrobe ...put it on backwards so I could cover up and have sleeves. Then I saw the Snuggie commercial a few years later and saw that it sold over 1,000,000 blankets. I was so devastated that I started drinking a lot and became a huge Nickelback fan. Those were some bad years... Sick ending to that story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, ko12010 said: For anyone confused, this is what is happening w the AB saga. Larry Johnson is 100% on point here. AB was first accused of rape May 20, 2018. Signed by the Pats* September 7, 2019. Span of 68 weeks. 'Rape = 68 in the reverse ordinal numerology cipher. 68 days since his birthday (July 10). Today's date is 9/20/2019. 9+20+20+19=68. Antonio Tavaris Brown = 263 in the reverse ordinal numerology cipher. September 20 is the 263rd day of the year. Ritual in full display. Laugh if you want but these numbers and word values aligning this way is mathematically impossible. Lol the work of zack the YouTube freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffany980 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Just announced All the nonsense Pittsburgh and Oakland put up with... NE releases him for a single text.Now he'll get signed by KC or Baltimore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Chris66 said: I have morals. I just dont care if yhe athletes have them. I dont own the team or pay the salaries Convenient. When your owner, coach, QB, and various players over the years are proven cheats or criminals: claim indifference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, ko12010 said: I guarantee you have never had an original thought in your life. Sober up friend. You're out of your depth even on your best day So wait...I skipped a bunch of pages. Where/how/what/wait a minute/I mean I just don't get it! I think I genuinely want to learn from you, like intern for you in a very serious way. Except that you're coming off as a completely humorless shell of an internet conceit. Either way, I have much to learn from you. Don't hold back. (How have I never seen you around before? Baffling.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Best Player Available said: My sources have confirmed. He is refusing too move out of Brady's house... My sources are telling me Brady is consulting with McCoy on the issue. Told he has experience dealing with squatters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Couldnt happen to a better guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: FOH Had to look that up on the urban dictionary 10 hours ago, Iamkrgr said: Come to BUFFALOOOOO - no one This guy must have CTE or something. Schopp wants him still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 12 hours ago, tbarg12 said: Guess Belichick was really tired of the AB questions. Maybe he assaulted TB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 12 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, ko12010 said: For anyone confused, this is what is happening w the AB saga. Larry Johnson is 100% on point here. AB was first accused of rape May 20, 2018. Signed by the Pats* September 7, 2019. Span of 68 weeks. 'Rape = 68 in the reverse ordinal numerology cipher. 68 days since his birthday (July 10). Today's date is 9/20/2019. 9+20+20+19=68. Antonio Tavaris Brown = 263 in the reverse ordinal numerology cipher. September 20 is the 263rd day of the year. Ritual in full display. Laugh if you want but these numbers and word values aligning this way is mathematically impossible. Hi. Are you insane? Edited September 21, 2019 by Coach Tuesday 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 16 hours ago, BrycePaup4ever said: Pats spread go down? Maybe Pats by 17 now? Still 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 11 hours ago, WideNine said: Wasn't there folks here on the Wall pushing for the Bills to go after this clown? At least 2 guys who went by the names "Beane" and "McDermott" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: This may be my favorite quote of all time...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Locomark said: This may be my favorite quote of all time...... Makes for an inexpensive Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Cannon said: Still 22 Surprised it hasn’t gotten larger. One less unbalanced sort in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: I don’t believe so. They said his bonus money hadn’t been paid and it was a “ Detrimental to the team” clause. The Pats FO is a lot of things but they aren’t that stupid How does AB play a game and not be owed his guarantee? Also his detrimental behavior did not include charges being filed. I'm sure the NFLPA will have something to say on this. Edited September 21, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: How does AB play a game and not be owed his guarantee? Patriots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 How much of his contract was guaranteed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Make a killing on Ebay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Rocket94 said: I hear you. Some athletes really don't care, or were never mentally prepared to get it. In this case, Brown may gave escalated to the point of "I deserve it" It is nothing new, but even though the behaviors fit the personality, they are getting more bizarre. Our culture has become increasingly desensitized to this kind of stuff and will always be fascinated. Once Brown left the modest setting of Pittsburgh, all of the triggers went off...it was coming. Like I've been saying all along, I didn't want this guy because of what he pulled in Pgh, because if he could do that there, he could do it anywhere (and he did, in Oakland). As for this latest stuff, it doesn't surprise me at all. I figured there was a reason Pgh was so desperate to rid themselves of one of the best WRs in the game and take a massive cap hit in the process. 11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They did put clauses in the contract, but those are standard and not special to them or him. they can’t just make the determination themselves that he was detrimental. If they refuse to pay he can file a grievance and fight that through arbritration and they may or may not have to pay the two gtd payments left of 5 mill and 4 mill. Per Albert breer, The 5 mill due on Monday is a signing bonus and recovering signing bonus money is more difficult, as that is covered under the CBA, not individual contracts. One way to get signing bonus money back is non-disclosure. The reality is that the burden of proof will be on the Patriots to provide hard evidence that they had no knowledge of the allegations prior to his signing. Most everyone believes Rosenhaus gave belichick a heads up. If Rosenhaus told them and can prove he did, they're on the hook for the money. 11 hours ago, 1st&ten said: Pat's should lose a draft pick just for signing this A***hole. How about a...3rd and 5th? 11 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Have a drink and relax my friend. It's Friday night and the world is yours. For me, the whole AB thing has turned into a soap opera and thus lost all appeal. I'll watch TMZ if I want to see celebrity gossip(which I don't). Couldn't care less about the guy's personal life. I'll tune back in if/when he returns to an NFL roster. 57 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: At least 2 guys who went by the names "Beane" and "McDermott" Beane inquired and realized it wasn't worth paying him the money he wanted. Maybe he even learned about this and other incidents at that time. Hardly "pushing" unlike some (cough, cough) fans. Edited September 21, 2019 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Like I've been saying all along, I didn't want this guy because of what he pulled in Pgh. And if he could do that there, he could do it anywhere (and he did, in Oakland). As for this latest stuff, it doesn't surprise me at all. If Rosenhaus told them and can prove he did, they're on the hook for the money. How about a...3rd and 5th? Beane inquired and realized it wasn't worth paying him the money he wanted. Maybe he even learned about this and other incidents at that time. Hardly "pushing." Yeah. Up to that point, things could not have been too weird yet because Beane at least inquired about Brown. Beane obviously sensed something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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