Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: A suspension of Antonio Brown would wipe out $29.125 million in guarantees Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2019, 1:11 PM EDT Assuming that a suspension would void the guarantees, the Raiders would be able to cut Brown at any point and owe him nothing further. They could even do it now, turning the Brown experiment into a $1 million mistake (signing bonus)— along with the third-round and fifth-round pick they surrendered to the Steelers acquire him. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/05/a-suspension-of-antonio-brown-would-wipe-out-29-125-million-in-guarantees/ I would respect the Raiders so much if they did suspend him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: I’m glad Ryan Leaf got his life in order but I’m not quite sure why he thinks he knows what’s going on inside AB’s head. I think he explains why in the very tweet you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Yeah, who would want the best WR in football? Still, not quite as stoopid as declaring Tyrod Taylor a franchise QB after 2015! I didn't and still would not. Best ever is for nothing if your a prima donna douche bag distraction Anybody with a tad bit of common sense knew AB would make waves and be a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Yeesh, you should see a doctor for that BDS. We can name a ton of things that teams have done that were more stupid than trading for AB, but trading for AB is pretty unbelievably stupid. He'll never be considered the best WR in the NFL until he decides to stop wearing that skirt. he's lead the NFL in receptions, yards, or TDs in 4 of the last 5 seasons. In terms of putting up numbers and consistency, it's not even a debate; he's been the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said: As a manager of 50+ personalities, sometimes it not what you said, it's how you say it. I think in AB's case, same things could have been said in a private setting and yes, I think he would have reacted differently. Him being a "diva" (not what I would call it), one on one is always the best way to handle that type of personality. I'm pretty sure they've met in one on one situations. It didn't get through to him obviously and it doesn't look like it ever will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I would respect the Raiders so much if they did suspend him. at this point how do yo not cut bait and save your salary cap ass if this is an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: I didn't and still would not. Best ever is for nothing if your a prima donna douche bag distraction Anybody with a tad bit of common sense knew AB would make waves and be a distraction. This is hilarious how many people "knew" this would happen when he caused zero problems for the previous 9 seasons and was an all-pro for 4 consecutive seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, ddaryl said: at this point how do yo not cut bait and save your salary cap ass if this is an option I think they would save on the guarantees but still would get the dead cap penalty right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: If the Raiders cut Brown, I hope nobody touches him. I would be willing to bet that that Raiders will be the last NFL team Brown plays for...something happened to this guy, in the last few years, where he has just lost all touch with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Knock on wood if you’re with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: Thats the crazy thing, week 17 of last season I was like AB is a selfish player and doesnt put the team first. Since then he's blown the doors off that theory, is there some other factor were missing here? Some other factor? Other than him being legit mentally ill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: This is hilarious how many people "knew" this would happen when he caused zero problems for the previous 9 seasons and was an all-pro for 4 consecutive seasons. I knew it would happen.. You can tell on how he was acting in Pittsburg. To be honest I did not see it happening at this level, and not so quickly in the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This is assuming a lot. "Successful" and "unsuccessful" always depend upon how the player is valued by both sides. Beane did do something "positive" if he had an appropriate valuation on AB and didn't exceed it. There's also the possibility that in a different environment, with different personalities, AB wouldn't be in the same place causing the same kerfluffle. I personally tend to think AB is a total headcase now and can't help himself, but it is a possibility. Fact is we tried to get him. My point is some are talking like Beane and the Bills should somehow get a pat on the back that he is not here. Here is the real deal 1) We wanted him 2) We didnt get him 3) He is crazy 4) Thankfully he is not our problem, no credit to us for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, eball said: I think he explains why in the very tweet you quoted. No *****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so week 1 suspension voids $29 mil in guarantees?........well Mayock, what's the call?.......... Mike Tannenbaum ✔ @RealTannenbaum · 1h The significance of a suspension is that it would void (assuming normal contract language) his $29,125,000 in contract guarantees. However, if he's on the Active Roster on opening day his $14,625,000 '19 salary becomes guaranteed because he's a Veteran Have to suspend him just for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think they would save on the guarantees but still would get the dead cap penalty right? I would think they would have to suspend him for the season.. Not sure how they can get out of this midway but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 It's the Bills year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 ..The Commish could be next up as the plot thickens.......... Antonio Brown may have a problem under the Personal Conduct Policy Posted by Mike Florio on September 5, 2019, 2:42 PM EDT If NFL Media’s report that Raiders receiver Antonio Brown threatened to punch Raiders G.M. Mike Mayock in the face is accurate, Brown may have a problem separate and apart from his potential team-issued suspension. Brown could be facing discipline under the league’s Personal Conduct Policy. The Personal Conduct Policy expressly prohibits, among other things, “[v]iolent or threatening behavior toward another employee or a third party in any workplace.” Brown’s alleged conduct presumably would fall within the boundaries of that specific portion of the rule. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/05/antonio-brown-may-have-a-problem-under-the-personal-conduct-policy/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: As a manager of 50+ personalities, sometimes it not what you said, it's how you say it. I think in AB's case, same things could have been said in a private setting and yes, I think he would have reacted differently. Him being a "diva" (not what I would call it), one on one is always the best way to handle that type of personality. With all respect, do we really know that Mayock didn't meet and otherwise communicate privately with AB and give it his "best managed behaviors" shot? As you must know, it is also required at times to document some stuff in writing (or legally it didn't happen). It's entirely possible there was a private conversation, then AB blew up at the legal "i" dotting afterwards, right? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, ddaryl said: I would think they would have to suspend him for the season.. Not sure how they can get out of this midway but who knows If he physically threatens the teams GM, 61 year old man, then he should be suspended for the season. I really hope they do it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, nucci said: Probably has to do with the Raiders not doing away with the fines imposed. Most teams waive them....Raiders didn't He can afford the fines with contract he got. They should not waive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: If distractions do not matter, AB would still be a Steeler. And LOL at you trying to say there was an agreed deal to Buffalo. Still trying to spin that? The guy is doubling down on looking foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Knock on wood if you’re with me. I literally cringe every time he says that. The guy is corny as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Chemical said: Holy hell, he actually has reason to be this upset if that’s true. Its basically a 30mil fine here's and idea, dont be a dumbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: He can afford the fines with contract he got. They should not waive them. ....tumors are best "removed" to prevent further "growth"............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I wish we would have got this guy. He would have meshed so well with the McBeane philosophy. I actually don't know how the Bills have been able to function without a distraction like this. I simply can't help but fantasize about him being the highest paid Bill. Offer them a 7th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, NickelCity said: Lol that's crazy. He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: I’m glad Ryan Leaf got his life in order but I’m not quite sure why he thinks he knows what’s going on inside AB’s head. I just think he's speaking from a point of thinking that he thought the same way "I" over team type of mentality and it didn't work out for him and a lot of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Would have loved a talented WR like AB but this dude is off his rocker So you’re saying talent isn’t everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: If he physically threatens the teams GM, 61 year old man, then he should be suspended for the season. I really hope they do it. He looks 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Offer them a 7th. you missed the [/sarcasm] ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: This is hilarious how many people "knew" this would happen when he caused zero problems for the previous 9 seasons and was an all-pro for 4 consecutive seasons. 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Ryan Clark was on NFL Live and followed up about his tweet last year about AB. Said he took a lot of heat for that and he's looking good now! https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ex-steelers-star-crushes-antonio-brown-with-2012-story-give-him-money-youre-going-to-create-a-monster/ I wouldn't say he had caused "zero" problems there my friend. See the article linked by Royale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, HOUSE said: He looks 75 That's what dealing with AB will do to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: So you’re saying talent isn’t everything? I'm interested to see how schopp skirts this subject today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Not really. Is it worth looking into betting a couple of mid-round picks on the best WR in football continuing to play the way he has for 7 straight years? Yep. In fact, it's utterly negligent not to do so when you have a total dearth of talent at the position and a young QB. we have talent and a guy like ab is never worth it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'm amazed Pittsburgh contained him as long as they did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Offer them a 7th. If Whaley were still here this deal would have BEEN done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I would respect the Raiders so much if they did suspend him. Whatever they do it would behoove them to have both Gruden and Mayock in agreement. If not, it opens up another can of worms! 9 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: he's lead the NFL in receptions, yards, or TDs in 4 of the last 5 seasons. In terms of putting up numbers and consistency, it's not even a debate; he's been the best. ....and he is "shooting himself in his frozen foot" for ever getting to Canton. He's making his past history a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Offer them a 7th. ..you may want to "sip a 5th" and rethink that idea.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, H2o said: If Whaley were still here this deal would have BEEN done. He would have never even gone to Oakland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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