thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I figured I'd take a shot at predicting the final 53 prior to the last preseason game. I'll come back and make an update after tonight's game, but for now, here's my take... QB (2) - J. Allen, M. Barkley RB (4) - L. McCoy, F. Gore, D. Singletary, M. Murphy FB (1) - P. DiMarco TE (3) - D. Knox, T. Sweeney, L. Smith WR (7) - J. Brown, C. Beasley, Z. Jones, R. Foster, A. Roberts, I. McKenzie, D. Williams OL (9) - D. Dawkins, Q. Spain, M. Morse, C. Ford, T. Nsekhe, J. Feliciano, R. Bates, S. Long, W. Teller ST (3) - R. Ferguson, S. Hauschka, B. Colquitt (projected trade with Cleveland) DE (4) - J. Hughes, T. Murphy, S. Lawson, D. Johnson DT (4) - S. Lotuleilei, E. Oliver, J. Phillips, H. Phillips LB (6) - M. Milano, T. Edmunds, L. Alexander, C. Thompson, J. Stanford, D. Lacey CB (6) - T. White, L. Wallace, T. Johnson, K. Johnson, S. Neal, L. Pitts S (4) - M. Hyde, J. Poyer, K. Coleman, D. Marlowe PUP - T. Kroft PS - T. Jackson, C. Wade, R. McCloud, I. Boettger, J. Jones, V. Joseph, D. Rice, J. Johnson 17 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Side note, but you would think by now a center would have came along who can long snap and regular snap. Would be nice if teams did not have to use a roster spot on that position. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I too think they are going to carry 7 WR's. Nice work Bandit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Nice job. Think Yeldon makes it over Murphy though. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Great post. There are a couple spots I have different players penciled in, but I can see why you chose the players you did. It's going to be interesting to see if anyone plays themselves on or off the roster tonight. There are probably 3-4 spots that are fairly fluid still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I like M Murphy but I don’t think he makes this team unfortunately.. I agree with you on 7 WR, and Teller.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I see it similarly with Yeldon over Murphy and Jaquan Joseph over Marlowe. (I don't think they want to expose Joseph to waivers. It may be the same with Vosean Joseph as well since he was a 5th round pick.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I agree with everything except I like Yeldon over Murphy. Yeldon is a much better pass receiver. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Murphy is nice, but I don't think he gets picked up if we cut him. I don't think the same is true of Yeldon. I think they keep Yeldon because they know they can always pick Murphy back up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gisele Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I agree with everything except I like Yeldon over Murphy. Yeldon is a much better pass receiver. Hopefully we won't need either of them on offense so it may come down to who's better on special teams (and I don't have the answer to that one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: Side note, but you would think by now a center would have came along who can long snap and regular snap. Would be nice if teams did not have to use a roster spot on that position. Most centers can long snap, though it takes a specialist to be reliably good at it. As a practical matter, you also want your LS to be a guy that can cover punts too. 10 minutes ago, Maynard said: Nice job. Think Yeldon makes it over Murphy though. 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I see it similarly with Yeldon over Murphy and Jaquan Joseph over Marlowe. (I don't think they want to expose Joseph to waivers. It may be the same with Vosean Joseph as well since he was a 5th round pick.) 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I agree with everything except I like Yeldon over Murphy. Yeldon is a much better pass receiver. 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Murphy is nice, but I don't think he gets picked up if we cut him. I don't think the same is true of Yeldon. I think they keep Yeldon because they know they can always pick Murphy back up. 1 minute ago, Gisele said: Hopefully we won't need either of them on offense so it may come down to who's better on special teams (and I don't have the answer to that one) I agree that Yeldon is probably the better RB, but whoever they keep is no better than their RB4, which means the guy better be able to play STs. In 4 pro seasons, Yeldon has never played a single snap on STs, whereas Murphy played 79 ST snaps in 11 games in 2018 alone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I figured I'd take a shot at predicting the final 53 prior to the last preseason game. I'll come back and make an update after tonight's game, but for now, here's my take... QB (2) - J. Allen, M. Barkley RB (4) - L. McCoy, F. Gore, D. Singletary, M. Murphy FB (1) - P. DiMarco TE (3) - D. Knox, T. Sweeney, L. Smith WR (7) - J. Brown, C. Beasley, Z. Jones, R. Foster, A. Roberts, I. McKenzie, D. Williams OL (9) - D. Dawkins, Q. Spain, M. Morse, C. Ford, T. Nsekhe, J. Feliciano, R. Bates, S. Long, W. Teller ST (3) - R. Ferguson, S. Hauschka, B. Colquitt (projected trade with Cleveland) DE (4) - J. Hughes, T. Murphy, S. Lawson, D. Johnson DT (4) - S. Lotuleilei, E. Oliver, J. Phillips, H. Phillips LB (6) - M. Milano, T. Edmunds, L. Alexander, C. Thompson, J. Stanford, D. Lacey CB (6) - T. White, L. Wallace, T. Johnson, K. Johnson, S. Neal, L. Pitts S (4) - M. Hyde, J. Poyer, K. Coleman, D. Marlowe PUP - T. Kroft PS - T. Jackson, C. Wade, R. McCloud, I. Boettger, J. Jones, V. Joseph, D. Rice, J. Johnson Great job, thanks for taking the time to do this Bandit, it's a well thought out roster. The only guy I think may make the 53 man roster that you don't have is Vosean Joseph. I don't think the team will want to expose him on waivers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Nice, Bandito. This 53 would make me very happy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Most centers can long snap, though it takes a specialist to be reliably good at it. As a practical matter, you also want your LS to be a guy that can cover punts too. I agree that Yeldon is probably the better RB, but whoever they keep is no better than their RB4, which means the guy better be able to play STs. In 4 pro seasons, Yeldon has never played a single snap on STs, whereas Murphy played 79 ST snaps in 11 games in 2018 alone. You may be right about the Special Teams. I found it interesting this preseason that the Bills have been experimenting with players on STs more than usual. I really think they are realizing they have players that they'd like to keep, but who haven't played STs in the past. Of course, that may be why we stunk on STs in Detroit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jav Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Yeldon over Murphy Vosean Joseph over Lacey Munnerlyn (process guy) over Pitts Jaquan Johnson over Marlowe Nice wild card with Colquitt over Bojorquez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 26 minutes ago, Maynard said: Nice job. Think Yeldon makes it over Murphy though. I agree, the only blemish on your 53. Yeldon is way too valuable as a receiver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 32 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I figured I'd take a shot at predicting the final 53 prior to the last preseason game. I'll come back and make an update after tonight's game, but for now, here's my take... QB (2) - J. Allen, M. Barkley RB (4) - L. McCoy, F. Gore, D. Singletary, M. Murphy FB (1) - P. DiMarco TE (3) - D. Knox, T. Sweeney, L. Smith WR (7) - J. Brown, C. Beasley, Z. Jones, R. Foster, A. Roberts, I. McKenzie, D. Williams OL (9) - D. Dawkins, Q. Spain, M. Morse, C. Ford, T. Nsekhe, J. Feliciano, R. Bates, S. Long, W. Teller ST (3) - R. Ferguson, S. Hauschka, B. Colquitt (projected trade with Cleveland) DE (4) - J. Hughes, T. Murphy, S. Lawson, D. Johnson DT (4) - S. Lotuleilei, E. Oliver, J. Phillips, H. Phillips LB (6) - M. Milano, T. Edmunds, L. Alexander, C. Thompson, J. Stanford, D. Lacey CB (6) - T. White, L. Wallace, T. Johnson, K. Johnson, S. Neal, L. Pitts S (4) - M. Hyde, J. Poyer, K. Coleman, D. Marlowe PUP - T. Kroft PS - T. Jackson, C. Wade, R. McCloud, I. Boettger, J. Jones, V. Joseph, D. Rice, J. Johnson I like the attempt. And the trade to get a punter. Only changes I have are Yeldon at RB over Murphy; at LB Joseph over Lacey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Most centers can long snap, though it takes a specialist to be reliably good at it. As a practical matter, you also want your LS to be a guy that can cover punts too. I agree that Yeldon is probably the better RB, but whoever they keep is no better than their RB4, which means the guy better be able to play STs. In 4 pro seasons, Yeldon has never played a single snap on STs, whereas Murphy played 79 ST snaps in 11 games in 2018 alone. He hasn’t in the NFL but the bills have been putting him in there, as he did at ‘Bama. I like the list though, except I’d rather have Yeldon, he’s already proven his worth in the nfl, and I’d like J Johnson over Marlowe. I hate to give up on Teller, I really want him to grow into a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, jav said: Yeldon over Murphy Vosean Joseph over Lacey Munnerlyn (process guy) over Pitts Jaquan Johnson over Marlowe Nice wild card with Colquitt over Bojorquez I agree with this. Otherwise an excellent projection of the 53 by the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Looks good to me like you said I kind of like Yeldon over Murphy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: Side note, but you would think by now a center would have came along who can long snap and regular snap. Would be nice if teams did not have to use a roster spot on that position. The issue isn't whether they can do it. The long snapper has to spend a lot of time on the special teams field with the kicker and punter (hence punters traditionally holding for field goals). You wouldn't be able to get the necessary practice time and instruction if your center were constantly snapping to the kicker and punter. 17 minutes ago, jkeerie said: You may be right about the Special Teams. I found it interesting this preseason that the Bills have been experimenting with players on STs more than usual. I really think they are realizing they have players that they'd like to keep, but who haven't played STs in the past. Of course, that may be why we stunk on STs in Detroit. If he's unlikely to be active on game days (no ones going to have 5 running backs active out of 45 players), I'm not sure how important special teams is. May be more important should dimarco get hurt to have a special teams running back there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, jav said: Yeldon over Murphy Vosean Joseph over Lacey Munnerlyn (process guy) over Pitts Jaquan Johnson over Marlowe Nice wild card with Colquitt over Bojorquez Thanks. You all could be right about Yeldon over Murphy, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least. For Vosean vs. Lacey, part of it is STs, but I just can't get away from how good Lacey has looked with the 2's this preseason. Munnerlyn lost out to Pitts in my projection based upon a numbers game. You've got your top 3 boundary corner spots locked up with White/Wallace/K. Johnson, as well as your top 2 slot corner spots with T. Johnson/S. Neal. If you keep a 6th, you probably want it to be a boundary guy, since you have no backup boundary corner if one of your starters goes down. On the contrary, if either Taron or Neal go down, K. Johnson, L. Pitts, and (in an emergency) M. Hyde can all play the slot, so you've got some contingency there. The J.J./Marlowe projection is purely my reading the tea leaves based upon playing time and PS eligibility. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Similar disagreements as others, because I think the decisions will be based on the likelihood of losing a player if cut. For example, I'd take Yeldon over Murphy because i don't think Murphy would NOT get picked on another 53, but Yeldon would. I'd pick J. Johnson over Marlowe, even though I think Marlowe is more valuable today, JJ has much more upside. I think either one of those players will get scooped up, but I would not want to lose the one with more upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Thanks. You all could be right about Yeldon over Murphy, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least. For Vosean vs. Lacey, part of it is STs, but I just can't get away from how good Lacey has looked with the 2's this preseason. Munnerlyn lost out to Pitts in my projection based upon a numbers game. You've got your top 3 boundary corner spots locked up with White/Wallace/K. Johnson, as well as your top 2 slot corner spots with T. Johnson/S. Neal. If you keep a 6th, you probably want it to be a boundary guy, since you have no backup boundary corner if one of your starters goes down. On the contrary, if either Taron or Neal go down, K. Johnson, L. Pitts, and (in an emergency) M. Hyde can all play the slot, so you've got some contingency there. The J.J./Marlowe projection is purely my reading the tea leaves based upon playing time and PS eligibility. Thanks for the explanation on those spots. I had similar thoughts to the poster you were replying to. I think you have swayed me on Munnerlyn vs. Pitts, but I am still on the JJ train. I was leaning Marlowe for a while until that forced fumble and recovery play by JJ last week. I guess my general reasoning is that if we are going with solid vets at the top 3 safety spots, then let's roll with the rookie that has made some nice plays for the last spot. I do like Marlowe though and won't be upset if he makes it. Just hope we can get JJ to PS in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Captain Munnerlyn is def making the roster. So is Neal as a S. Marlowe probably cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I think we need Yeldon with 2 older RBs, and a rookie. If we keep him he'll come in handy as a receiving back down the road as well. Good player I hope they keep him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 in the What have you done for me lately world ..... Yeldon in the pass game is better than Yeldon in the run game. Is a RB who can't run well really worthy? I mean look how many want to trade Shady because his #'s are down rushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, jav said: Yeldon over Murphy Vosean Joseph over Lacey Munnerlyn (process guy) over Pitts Jaquan Johnson over Marlowe Nice wild card with Colquitt over Bojorquez Bandit - nice work overall. The above were my thoughts also on where you may be wrong. I think Beane likes his draft picks to make the team year 1 before cutting if possible. Yeldon is a better back than Murphy. If they want ST from back, then Perry is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I figured I'd take a shot at predicting the final 53 prior to the last preseason game. I'll come back and make an update after tonight's game, but for now, here's my take... QB (2) - J. Allen, M. Barkley RB (4) - L. McCoy, F. Gore, D. Singletary, M. Murphy FB (1) - P. DiMarco TE (3) - D. Knox, T. Sweeney, L. Smith WR (7) - J. Brown, C. Beasley, Z. Jones, R. Foster, A. Roberts, I. McKenzie, D. Williams OL (9) - D. Dawkins, Q. Spain, M. Morse, C. Ford, T. Nsekhe, J. Feliciano, R. Bates, S. Long, W. Teller ST (3) - R. Ferguson, S. Hauschka, B. Colquitt (projected trade with Cleveland) DE (4) - J. Hughes, T. Murphy, S. Lawson, D. Johnson DT (4) - S. Lotuleilei, E. Oliver, J. Phillips, H. Phillips LB (6) - M. Milano, T. Edmunds, L. Alexander, C. Thompson, J. Stanford, D. Lacey CB (6) - T. White, L. Wallace, T. Johnson, K. Johnson, S. Neal, L. Pitts S (4) - M. Hyde, J. Poyer, K. Coleman, D. Marlowe PUP - T. Kroft PS - T. Jackson, C. Wade, R. McCloud, I. Boettger, J. Jones, V. Joseph, D. Rice, J. Johnson I Agree and like that you kept Marcus Murphy. I'm not big on Ander Roberts he has been in the league for almost 10 years and hasn't produced much as a reciever, Return Man Cool yes that is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bills2ref said: Side note, but you would think by now a center would have came along who can long snap and regular snap. Would be nice if teams did not have to use a roster spot on that position. I always thought the same about punters and kickers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I just can't see Jaquan Johnson clearing waivers. He has played REALLY well this preseason and offseason, and I'm not sure they want to risk him. While Vosean Joseph hasn't shown much, I'd still feel nervous waiving him, as well. I'd rather see those two kept at the expense of Dean Marlow and Deon Lacy, respectiely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavUHerdThaHoard Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 give me ..Jack Fox (Chiefs) if he loses out to the Kansas City Colquitt over Bojorquez...id take KC Colquitt as well ... Jaquan Johnson over Marlowe,Vosean Joseph over Pitts and Yeldon over Murphy...tight call with Wade ...game 4 decides it between Yeldon and Wade ...best guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Side note, but you would think by now a center would have came along who can long snap and regular snap. Would be nice if teams did not have to use a roster spot on that position. Yes and also I would think that there would be at least a handful of guys who could place kick and punt. You'd have a job for as long as you wanted. I agree the punter may not be on the roster. Only disagreements: Yeldon over Murphy Munnerlyn over Pitts Not keeping 7 WRs Williams doesn't make it they will keep a 7th LB for ST (V. Joseph), close call on Lacy vs. M. Alexander J. Johnson over Marlowe - Marlowe hit his ceiling, Johnson wins on potential (and pretty much same player) whoever is 4th S is inactive on Sunday since Neal can play S Edited August 29, 2019 by jwhit34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: I too think they are going to carry 7 WR's. Nice work Bandit. With John Brown's injury history and sickle cell issues, I don't think carrying seven is too big of a stretch. It's pretty likely we don't end up getting a full 16 out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavUHerdThaHoard Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Dont sleep on Ike Botteger either he may very well beat out Teller ..or Long ... thats a battle of rotation ill be watching in game 4 tonite . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thanks Bandit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Thanks, Bandit. I agree with most of it though I do think Jaquan makes this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 wrap it ill take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: OL (9) - D. Dawkins, Q. Spain, M. Morse, C. Ford, T. Nsekhe, J. Feliciano, R. Bates, S. Long, W. Teller ST (3) - R. Ferguson, S. Hauschka, B. Colquitt (projected trade with Cleveland) Bandito - With Teller being traded to CLE for two picks, what do you think about the punter position at this time? Edited August 29, 2019 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Bandito - With Teller being traded to CLE for two picks, what do you think about the punter position at this time? I think they'll trade for a punter before Saturday at 4pm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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