YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Not sure yet how bad Spain’s injury is but found it interesting that Ike Boettger, not Wyatt Teller, replaces him at LG when he went out last night. Spain was begging Bobby Johnson to go back in before the cart came out, so hard to say what the extent of the injury is. Even though he left in a walking boot, that’s common to take precaution. If he can’t go week 1 (and he hasn’t been very good anyway... ) does Boettger (a former UDFa) get the nod over Teller, a 5th rd pick from a year ago? Does teller get cut because he provides zero versatility on the OL (only plays G)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: (and he hasn’t been very good anyway... ) I agree. Despite GunnerBill's man crush on the guy, he looks fat and unathletic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 My only guess is that they are testing Boettgers versatility. Teller came in last week and played pretty well so they know what he can do. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Not sure yet how bad Spain’s injury is but found it interesting that Ike Boettger, not Wyatt Teller, replaces him at LG when he went out last night. Spain was begging Bobby Johnson to go back in before the cart came out, so hard to say what the extent of the injury is. Even though he left in a walking boot, that’s common to take precaution. If he can’t go week 1 (and he hasn’t been very good anyway... ) does Boettger (a former UDFa) get the nod over Teller, a 5th rd pick from a year ago? Does teller get cut because he provides zero versatility on the OL (only plays G)? Teller is staying, probably wanted to see if Boettger could handle it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I was suspecting Teller to come in as well. I noticed Teller got playing time at RG and RT during the game. Bates got some time at LT in the 2nd half. I'm curious to see who they keep and how many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think they should hold a fan tryout for the LG position. The average fan can't be worse than Quinton Spain, or anyone else on the roster. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Roster needs to expand to 60 players. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I agree. Despite GunnerBill's man crush on the guy, he looks fat and unathletic. No Gunner is correct here.....he has had very limited negative plays and is bulldozer in the run....Spain is a decent player 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 I’m actually rooting for Teller, I think he’s played well when he has had opportunities and I liked how he stood up for josh last year when Kiko took that cheap shot. I was hoping a vet LG like Spain would help Dawkins but I am starting to think there was a reason he was available when he was and for cheap. I’m worried about Teller not having the ability to play C could hurt him when it comes to the 53. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I think they should hold a fan tryout for the LG position. The average fan can't be worse than Quinton Spain, or anyone else on the roster. Interesting - have you called the Bills yet? I suggest you act as a DT against Spain and show us how bad he performs. 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: I was suspecting Teller to come in as well. I noticed Teller got playing time at RG and RT during the game. Bates got some time at LT in the 2nd half. I'm curious to see who they keep and how many. I did not see Teller at RT - interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Oil Company Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) I suspect you may see Teller start at LG next week. Spain won't play. They should also play Bates at center again. These 2 guys should play the whole game at these positions. These 2 positions worry me more than any where else. 1 more concussion and Mitch is likely done. Feliciano is very average and Bodine will be gone. Lets see how good Bates can be a center. I fear Spain being very marginal in pass protection and could be benched at some point during the year. Teller needs to be ready to step up. Edited August 24, 2019 by Bills Oil Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 My best guess is that - as it was pretty clear they were emphasizing the run game - they were seeing what they had in Ike there. Teller is a good run blocker and they know what they have there. Maybe Ike has leaped him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I agree. Despite GunnerBill's man crush on the guy, he looks fat and unathletic. I think he has played well except a couple of snaps in that second game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I think Felliciano will take that spot once Morse comes back healthy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I started a thread on this but you beat me to it Yolo! Seems to me like Teller is done-zo, or else why would Boettger go in instead of him with Josh on the field and the need to protect him? None of the reasons given so far are very compelling. Seems Boettger has passed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, GG said: My only guess is that they are testing Boettgers versatility. Teller came in last week and played pretty well so they know what he can do. I posted something similar in another thread, that they were giving him a good look with the ones, as it will come down to those two. However, Teller has looked stellar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not sure yet how bad Spain’s injury is but found it interesting that Ike Boettger, not Wyatt Teller, replaces him at LG when he went out last night. Spain was begging Bobby Johnson to go back in before the cart came out, so hard to say what the extent of the injury is. Even though he left in a walking boot, that’s common to take precaution. If he can’t go week 1 (and he hasn’t been very good anyway... ) does Boettger (a former UDFa) get the nod over Teller, a 5th rd pick from a year ago? Does teller get cut because he provides zero versatility on the OL (only plays G)? Boettger played most of the remainder of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, GG said: My only guess is that they are testing Boettgers versatility. Teller came in last week and played pretty well so they know what he can do. That’s what I was thinking, they wanted to get more of a look at him....and not against garbage. I think I like Teller more than most, but I don’t pretend to be an expert. . 21 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I started a thread on this but you beat me to it Yolo! Seems to me like Teller is done-zo, or else why would Boettger go in instead of him with Josh on the field and the need to protect him? None of the reasons given so far are very compelling. Seems Boettger has passed him No shame there! It’s what he does! He posts breaking news better than Kiko “cooks”! ? Edited August 24, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Given the scheme and based on past performance there is no doubt IMO that Spain should start (if healthy of course). He's a starting calibre guard in man. Can't get away from the impression that he's out of shape tho. I get that he's a big guy but I don't recall seeing quite so prominent a paunch in the clips I've watched of him as a Titan. I know he was kept out of practice early on for a hand injury. Maybe that has something to do with it. This ankle thingy won't help either if it keeps him out awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: That’s what I was thinking, they wanted to get more of a look at him....and not against garbage. I think I like Teller more than most, but I don’t pretend to be an expert. . No shame there! It’s what he does! He posts breaking news better than Kiko “cooks”! ? While that's true, there wasn't even anything newsy about this one If ever I'm going to make a thread maybe I should just stop and assume Yolo's got it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: While that's true, there wasn't even anything newsy about this one If ever I'm going to make a thread maybe I should just stop and assume Yolo's got it Yours should have just been merged. Had more real info, mine was a train of thought. I was like “get outta my brain!” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I think Felliciano will take that spot once Morse comes back healthy. Ditto - once Morse is back: Dawkins/Feliciano/Morse/Ford/Nsekhe would be the best five. As much as I do like Teller, and hope he continues to develop, I can't see us having a better five out there. If Morse and/or Nsekhe aren't in the mix come week 1, look for Long and Teller to fill the interior with either Feliciano or Bates at Center, and Ford swinging to RT. All this of course presuming Spain can't go - but I can't help but to be skeptical of his play thus far both in camp and preseason games. Especially in respect to penalties and poor pass pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I think they should hold a fan tryout for the LG position. The average fan can't be worse than Quinton Spain, or anyone else on the roster. This is commentary? Next time I won't even bother. 52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I did not see Teller at RT - interesting He and Boettger were in at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Not sure yet how bad Spain’s injury is but found it interesting that Ike Boettger, not Wyatt Teller, replaces him at LG when he went out last night. Spain was begging Bobby Johnson to go back in before the cart came out, so hard to say what the extent of the injury is. Even though he left in a walking boot, that’s common to take precaution. If he can’t go week 1 (and he hasn’t been very good anyway... ) does Boettger (a former UDFa) get the nod over Teller, a 5th rd pick from a year ago? Does teller get cut because he provides zero versatility on the OL (only plays G)? Spain has been adequate, which means he is far better than Ducasse was. That being said, Boettger played very good in place of Spain last night. Still, I don't think Teller will get cut either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: While that's true, there wasn't even anything newsy about this one If ever I'm going to make a thread maybe I should just stop and assume Yolo's got it If you take your tin foil hat off, he will also read your thoughts. I’m telling you, YOLO has it covered! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m actually rooting for Teller, I think he’s played well when he has had opportunities and I liked how he stood up for josh last year when Kiko took that cheap shot. I was hoping a vet LG like Spain would help Dawkins but I am starting to think there was a reason he was available when he was and for cheap. I’m worried about Teller not having the ability to play C could hurt him when it comes to the 53. Teller has not played well. He was barely adequate in the run game and more of a liability in pass protection than even Ducasse. You are just giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was a rookie and he can get better. But his play to date does not warrant a starting spot and without the injuries to Morse and Spain he would probably not make the final 53. At this point I would favor keeping an additional OL knowing Morse is one hit away from being lost for the season. I don't see anything special from WR 3-8 and woudl only go with 5 to start the season. They can pick up a street FA if a WR gets hurt. Of course I am also in the camp of not keeping DiMarco which frees up a roster spot. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I see, Spain, is the player that going to be the "get rid of him at all costs regardless of actual play" player this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Spain is the best of the three and by a wide margin. Maybe could use some conditioning work though He looks blubbery and bloated even for a OG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I’m intrigued to see if Feliciano gets the nod over Spain once Morse is back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Teller has not played well. He was barely adequate in the run game and more of a liability in pass protection than even Ducasse. You are just giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was a rookie and he can get better. But his play to date does not warrant a starting spot and without the injuries to Morse and Spain he would probably not make the final 53. At this point I would favor keeping an additional OL knowing Morse is one hit away from being lost for the season. I don't see anything special from WR 3-8 and woudl only go with 5 to start the season. They can pick up a street FA if a WR gets hurt. Of course I am also in the camp of not keeping DiMarco which frees up a roster spot. . Agreed Spain is better, but there’s no denying Teller has had a very good camp so far. His problem to me is his lack of versatility compared to Long, and Feliciano. And Bates is coming in like gang busters. I could see them trading Teller this week . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I see, Spain, is the player that going to be the "get rid of him at all costs regardless of actual play" player this year. Yep. It seems, these days, if a player loses on a play here and there, he's no good. In spite of all the good plays they might make. It's almost as if folks forget all players lose plays here and there. ALL. OF. THEM. Spain has made his share of good plays this pre-season and over his career. I'll trust Bobby Johnson's opinion on this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Yours should have just been merged. Had more real info, mine was a train of thought. I was like “get outta my brain!” Me too I'm like this dude is a mental ninja. I just thought I'd delete it, you had some good replies going and it seemed redundant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: I agree. Despite GunnerBill's man crush on the guy, he looks fat and unathletic. My sediments exactly 59 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Spain is the best of the three and by a wide margin. Maybe could use some conditioning work though He looks blubbery and bloated even for a OG Then that makes him the worst of the three- professional football players have to be ready to play, and Spain is not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: My sediments exactly 41 minutes ago, purple haze said: Yep. It seems, these days, if a player loses on a play here and there, he's no good. In spite of all the good plays they might make. It's almost as if folks forget all players lose plays here and there. ALL. OF. THEM. Spain has made his share of good plays this pre-season and over his career. I'll trust Bobby Johnson's opinion on this one. My theory about the ppl suddenly hating on the Spaniard is that they’re preemptively avoiding criticism of McDermott for losing another interior online starter 2weeks before we play the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: My sediments exactly I think you are looking for an escape goat.. 2 minutes ago, Chemical said: My theory about the ppl suddenly hating on the Spaniard is that they’re preemptively avoiding criticism of McDermott for losing another interior online starter 2weeks before we play the Jets. Yeah ... I’m sure that’s not it.. Do people get injured on another teams under other coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I think you are looking for an escape goat.. Yeah ... I’m sure that’s not it.. Do people get injured on another teams under other coaches? Yeah they do but there was a thread about whether or not it’s smart to play our starters in preseason. The newest trend is to not play them at all. Not only would the Spaniard not be on the mend but maybe some questions about teller could have been answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chemical said: Yeah they do but there was a thread about whether or not it’s smart to play our starters in preseason. The newest trend is to not play them at all. Not only would the Spaniard not be on the mend but maybe some questions about teller could have been answered. Belichek doesn’t seem to subscribe to the new trend..what does he know I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I think Felliciano will take that spot once Morse comes back healthy. I think so and hope so. Feliciano has played well. He and Long should get a nod well ahead of Teller or Better. We have the makings of a decent O-Line but we need Morse to stay healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Belichek doesn’t seem to subscribe to the new trend..what does he know I guess.. Got me there. You’re a genius! if Brady gets injured I’m sure he won’t get any criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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