TPS Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, nucci said: based on what? Draft profiles and analysis (including Gruden's), and observations of his play and interviews while a Bill. Time will tell how NP's career plays out, but I believe, and I hope, that things work out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, TPS said: Draft profiles and analysis (including Gruden's), and observations of his play and interviews while a Bill. Time will tell how NP's career plays out, but I believe, and I hope, that things work out for him. Agreed. And if Gruden is not back on the NP train, he sure has a funny way of showing it. “I like Peterman, I’ve said that for a while now,” Gruden said. “Thought he had two touchdown passes dropped today that were right on the money, thought he had a couple other balls that were dropped right on the money. Took care of the ball, didn’t turn it over throughout the preseason. He’s athletic. I like what he did tonight, especially late in the football game.” https://www.sfchronicle.com/raiders/article/Raiders-beat-Packers-22-21-on-a-shortened-field-14372329.php 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Agreed. And if Gruden is not back on the NP train, he sure has a funny way of showing it. “I like Peterman, I’ve said that for a while now,” Gruden said. “Thought he had two touchdown passes dropped today that were right on the money, thought he had a couple other balls that were dropped right on the money. Took care of the ball, didn’t turn it over throughout the preseason. He’s athletic. I like what he did tonight, especially late in the football game.” https://www.sfchronicle.com/raiders/article/Raiders-beat-Packers-22-21-on-a-shortened-field-14372329.php Certainly Bills' fans have every right to think Peterman has no business being in the NFL. However, many people thought and still think he has talent to be here. As I said, time will tell... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 It would be such a great story if he turns out to be a good QB. I'm skeptical but why not root for the guy. It's way better than wanting someone to fail. Go get 'em Nate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: He is the worst that’s ever played. Hyperbole much? There have been plenty of QBs worse than him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 You guys might be laughing now but I predict an Allen vs Peterman AFC Championship....in Buffalo. The Bills do not score an offensive TD the entire game but win 42-0. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, ColeB said: I only caught the last couple of minutes. He led them down the field for the winning FG. He looked a little shaky but had a clutch throw to get them in range and had 2 TD passes earlier. LOL! Will Gruden also be fooled? And so was 90% of TBD sans all the Peterman/Allen- Kelly/Reich comparasons until game one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Last year's preseason stats fwiw: 33/41, 80.5%, 431 yards, 3 TD's, 1 INT, 124.7 QB rating So he's regressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, gordong said: seriously, who cares. The guy doesn't have an NFL arm, he can't throw at out pass anywhere on the field. Well apparently he has a great CFL arm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Best Player Available Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, ColeB said: Will Gruden also be fooled? Gruden is an idiot. He can only win when handed the keys to a Buggati hyper-car (Tampa.) And play the team he coached and was fired from. that team didn't change their signal calling. in a SB. He knew the plays for the most part. Then he can win. He is no QB guru. A pompus douche. IMO McD is a better coach. Are you with me? Then knock on wood.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, ToGoGo said: He's obviously better than how he performed for us in the regular season. There is some backup QB talent there. Definitely some brains. But he has a severe case of the yips in the regular season. If I was Gruden, I would give Peterman clean-up duty in regular season blow-outs. Take some pressure off him. Get him in slowly. He was thrown into the fire too fast in Buffalo. 100% this. Take the pressure off him by putting him in at the end of games. In fact, I'd do this regardless of who my backup is to give that guy game experience in case something happens to the starter. But esp. with Peterman. He's a legit NFL backup based on preseason work, then in games, he becomes panick-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: Are you with me? Then knock on wood.... I think Eric will provide a welcome counterpoint to Kelso’s verbosity and tendency to over analyze. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Peterman could be the new Fitzmagtragic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: And now we know why: 1) We let Peterman start the season. 2) Preseason means nothing. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. 99/100 Preseason tells you what kind of shape a guy is in/what he can do on the field. 1 time it doesn't work out, and this fanbase's response is "preseason means nothhhhing" Do you see how crazy this is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 All the Peterman hate can make like a tree and get outta here, Biff style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suorangefan4 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Why are people obsessed with trashing Peterman? And why do people dismiss everything he had to deal with in the games he started. Here's the games he had to start as a young QB. Baltimore (2018) - #1 defense in the league. Rainy weather. Offensive line couldn't block anyone and receivers got no seperation all game Chicago (2018) - #3 overall defense. Receivers were terrible. Dropping several passes. 2 of his INTs were ridiculously fluke plays. One of them Terrelle Pryor bobbled what should have been a big gain into an INT instead. Another Zay Jones got lit up and the ball popped up and got picked. All three receivers ran short slant patterns to try to get the first down. The Bears knew the play we were calling it seemed because they were all ready for those short slant routes. San Diego (2017) - Just go watch the game and tell me what even Tom Brady would have done that game. Absolutely zero seperation all game from the receivers and the offensive line was letting two or three guys destroy Peterman in a second on a lot of plays. Peterman might not be made for the NFL but to judge him this early is ludicrous because he's been put in possibly the worst position of any young QB in history. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: 99/100 Preseason tells you what kind of shape a guy is in/what he can do on the field. 1 time it doesn't work out, and this fanbase's response is "preseason means nothhhhing" Do you see how crazy this is? To be fair, it didn't work out for the most important position in the game, and had a snowball effect on the season and Josh Allen's development. Kind of a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: To be fair, it didn't work out for the most important position in the game, and had a snowball effect on the season and Josh Allen's development. Kind of a big deal. It was a disaster and the ramifications were nothing short of epic. But, that doesn't mean preseason no longer has value. At best, it means you have to remain critical of the results you see on the field. Thing is, you have to evaluate these guys somehow. You want the most out of your guys. For example, you have a third round and a fifth round DE. You tell these guys that the player who proves the most in practice and the preseason gets the start. I think every one would agree its foolish to just hand the job to the third rounder. 99/100 this system works. Every once in a while, it doesnt. Peterman did everything right according to this system. He was just the 1/100. My point is, what is the alternative? Give the loser of the competition the job automatically? Edited August 23, 2019 by JoshAllenHasBigHands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: It was a disaster and the ramifications were nothing short of epic. But, that doesn't mean preseason no longer has value. At best, it means you have to remain critical of the results you see on the field. Thing is, you have to evaluate these guys somehow. You want the most out of your guys. For example, you have a third round and a fifth round DE. You tell these guys that the player who proves the most in practice and the preseason gets the start. I think every one would agree its foolish to just hand the job to the third rounder. 99/100 this system works. Every once in a while, it doesnt. Peterman did everything right according to this system. He was just the 1/100. My point is, what is the alternative? Give the loser of the competition the job automatically? Oh, I agree completely! You should watch me watching a preseason game. I'm scribbling notes like crazy, and only eating wings during commercial breaks! I'm just saying that the reason Bills fans, in particular, freak out is that we've born the brunt of that 1/100, and it could well have jeopardized Allen's development. Fortunately, the kid looks to have weathered it just fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said: Why are people obsessed with trashing Peterman? And why do people dismiss everything he had to deal with in the games he started. Here's the games he had to start as a young QB. Baltimore (2018) - #1 defense in the league. Rainy weather. Offensive line couldn't block anyone and receivers got no seperation all game Chicago (2018) - #3 overall defense. Receivers were terrible. Dropping several passes. 2 of his INTs were ridiculously fluke plays. One of them Terrelle Pryor bobbled what should have been a big gain into an INT instead. Another Zay Jones got lit up and the ball popped up and got picked. All three receivers ran short slant patterns to try to get the first down. The Bears knew the play we were calling it seemed because they were all ready for those short slant routes. San Diego (2017) - Just go watch the game and tell me what even Tom Brady would have done that game. Absolutely zero seperation all game from the receivers and the offensive line was letting two or three guys destroy Peterman in a second on a lot of plays. Peterman might not be made for the NFL but to judge him this early is ludicrous because he's been put in possibly the worst position of any young QB in history. Actually, all you have to do is watch the second half of that game and you can see Tyrod Taylor (who ain't no Tom Brady!) lead the offense, and look like an actual NFL QB. It was night and day. Tyrod certainly wasn't great. But, Peterman absolutely crapped the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: As I was watching my TV today I saw the NFL Network "Preseason Power Rankings" The bills were somewhere in the 20's....I got miffed for a second....why? We are 2 and 0.....our defense is shutting everyone down....Our QBs look good......... Then....I realized......its pre season. I know a Raiders fan saying the same thing about them, 3-0 and ranked 26th It's the preseason and its power rankings.... My explanation would be that it's based on what they see in those games from the guys who will be playing regular season games in a few weeks. Since most of the starters sat last night's Raiders Packers game, that game won't affect many opinions on their power rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 If someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Strange to me that so many want Jason Peterman to fail. While I am glad he is not in a Bills uniform, it would be a great story if he could stick with a team and be a solid contributor. I am not betting on that happening, but why trash a guy who seemed to work hard while here, was a good teammate, and seemed to have good overall character? The guy became a bit of a national joke, so it would be great for him to redeem himself and make a living in the NFL for a while.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I never understood the Peterman hate on this board. The guy played in some of the worst circumstances that I have seen and he was a rookie late rd pick. He lost his confidence here and with every pick it snowballed on him. He has just as much arm strength as Drew Bree's, he is a accurate passer and relies on accuracy, timing and the mental side of the game to succeed. I think he will definitely challenge Carr for the starting QB job. Hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaha *takes breath* Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahhahaah 2 hours ago, Lurker said: Hyperbole much? There have been plenty of QBs worse than him... Nope. Check the stats. Its not close 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: 100% this. Take the pressure off him by putting him in at the end of games. In fact, I'd do this regardless of who my backup is to give that guy game experience in case something happens to the starter. But esp. with Peterman. He's a legit NFL backup based on preseason work, then in games, he becomes panick-man. Why does he need to be babied??? This is professional football. Either you can or cant and Peterman has shown when its a real game, he cant. How people cannot grasp this is incredible to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I still think that NP could have a career as a borderline NFL backup. But he should probably have stayed in Winnipeg because he could probably be successful as a starter in the Canadian league where the overall quality of play is maybe somewhere around that of the 3rd preseason game. As far as the Bills are concerned they have a better backup right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: Strange to me that so many want Jason Peterman to fail. While I am glad he is not in a Bills uniform, it would be a great story if he could stick with a team and be a solid contributor. I am not betting on that happening, but why trash a guy who seemed to work hard while here, was a good teammate, and seemed to have good overall character? The guy became a bit of a national joke, so it would be great for him to redeem himself and make a living in the NFL for a while.. These childish jokes Are heartless and cruel But the guy’s even worse Than Brian Brohm or Jeff Tuel Peterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Lurker said: Hyperbole much? There have been plenty of QBs worse than him... I’m not going down this road again. No hyperbole coming from this end. That’s my belief. Here are some areas where he ranks 356 of 356 qualifying QBs: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 What is funny to me is that Mitch Trubiski has a MPH that is 55 and is considered a cannon. While Peterman was clocked at 53 and is considered weak armed. Going by MPH numbers from pro football weekly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 It's preseason, it's Peterman. Wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I want to hear Antonio Brown whine after Peterman takes the starting job away from Carr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: What is funny to me is that Mitch Trubiski has a MPH that is 55 and is considered a cannon. While Peterman was clocked at 53 and is considered weak armed. Going by MPH numbers from pro football weekly. Just out of curiosity, what was JA? 1 minute ago, frostbitmic said: I want to hear Antonio Brown whine after Peterman takes the starting job away from Carr. ^^^^This x 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: What is funny to me is that Mitch Trubiski has a MPH that is 55 and is considered a cannon. While Peterman was clocked at 53 and is considered weak armed. Going by MPH numbers from pro football weekly. Which one can complete the out route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Doc said: Peterman could be the new Fitzmagtragic. Peterman could only dream to have Fitz career. Peterman will never sniff Fitz’ numbers. If he has to play in a regular season, it will be the same stuff. His arm just isn’t good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Which one can complete the out route? Ironically, it appears that both of NP’s TD’s against GB yesterday were on out patterns. Maybe the corners were purposely playing off never dreaming he’d throw there again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Ironically, it appears that both of NP’s TD’s against GB yesterday were on out patterns. Maybe the corners were purposely playing off never dreaming he’d throw there again? Or maybe they are cbs who won’t be in the nfl. Patrick Peterson probably takes those to the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) he can win for ya.... Edited August 24, 2019 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It was only an 80 yard field Raiders fullback Keith Smith said "It had a backyard-footballish feel to it." Besides eliminating kickoffs, shirts vs. skins was also a pregame consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Heck, who cares about Reggie Jackson being Mr. October.............. we’ve got Mr. August in the NFL with Nathan Peterman. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahaha *takes breath* Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahhahaah Nope. Check the stats. Its not close Why does he need to be babied??? This is professional football. Either you can or cant and Peterman has shown when its a real game, he cant. How people cannot grasp this is incredible to me It's not that he needs to be babied. He performed above-average in preseason. If he can replicate this in the regular season, you have a capable backup QB. A capable backup QB is very important. It's not "babying him" but managing an asset to get the most of out it. I don't get how some people can't grasp that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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