Sully is optimistic; we're f***ed...

[eball]

Did I just see a Sully article linked on the front page of TBD?  Of course I won't click on it, but the "preview" seems to suggest Sully thinks this team is "different" and will take a big step forward.

 

We're screwed.

[formerlyofCtown]

20 minutes ago, eball said:

Did I just see a Sully article linked on the front page of TBD?  Of course I won't click on it, but the "preview" seems to suggest Sully thinks this team is "different" and will take a big step forward.

 

We're screwed.

His negativity is usually accurate.  That is probably why we dislike him.  So maybe his optomism will be as well.

[Boca BIlls]

25 minutes ago, eball said:

Did I just see a Sully article linked on the front page of TBD?  Of course I won't click on it, but the "preview" seems to suggest Sully thinks this team is "different" and will take a big step forward.

 

We're screwed.

He has never been optimistic before so how are we screwed?

[McNubbins]

Buffalo all the way this time.

[Gugny]

I think it's a good year to be optimistic about the Bills.

 

[That's No Moon]

7 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

He has never been optimistic before so how are we screwed?

Its the 5th Horseman of the Apocalypse. Conquest, War, Famine, Plague, and in the back riding a Donkey is Sully being optimistic about the whole thing.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I think it's a good year to be optimistic about the Bills.

 

Best I've felt in a long while. 

 

[H2o]

I too am optimistic. I have had a feeling this team would be special stirring for a while, going back to the beginning of FA. After 20 years I do believe our team is ready to make some noise. We will have balance and the defense is going to be more effective getting pressure on the QB which in turn will lead to more turnovers. The only thing that worries me right now is the depth at LB. Other than that I feel this is the best overall team we have fielded since the late 90's. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by H2o

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, eball said:

Did I just see a Sully article linked on the front page of TBD?  Of course I won't click on it, but the "preview" seems to suggest Sully thinks this team is "different" and will take a big step forward.

 

We're screwed.

while I am no fan of Sully, I don't get what you are saying, he has been pessimistic for years and looking back at history, has he been wrong?   I dont like him because he generally is a glass is empty (not half emtpy) type...total downer.

[HOUSE]

Sully is back on his medication now...

 

BuzzFeed

Edited August 19, 2019 by HOUSE

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

His negativity is usually accurate.  That is probably why we dislike him.  So maybe his optomism will be as well.

 

Well Jerry was moping all camp because he didn't have a negative story to latch onto. But then Morse got concussed and Jerry was happy again, questioning the front office skills of Brandon Beane for "ignoring the injury history of Morse out of desperation to make the playoffs because they are on some kind of hot seat from the Pegulas."

 

Well the team seems to be thriving despite losing Morse for a few weeks. Apparently Beane was smart enough to sign enough capable backups in case guys like Morse are lost to injury. So there goes that Jerry conspiracy theory out the window.

 

So now it looks like Jerry has given up and is willing to accept the Bills might actually be good now. Until the next bad thing happens anyway. It must be killing him.

 

50 minutes ago, mattynh said:

while I am no fan of Sully, I don't get what you are saying, he has been pessimistic for years and looking back at history, has he been wrong?   I dont like him because he generally is a glass is empty (not half emtpy) type...total downer.

 

Yes he's been wrong. Because being an endless pessimist doesn't make you right. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by PromoTheRobot

[PromoTheRobot]

 

That said, he still gets great guests on his radio show

[ddaryl]

2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

His negativity is usually accurate.  That is probably why we dislike him.  So maybe his optomism will be as well.

 

It was never about his accuracy. 

His doom and gloom reporting was a drain. I think most fans enjoyed having some optimism in the offseason and training camp, and Sully never could find much positive to write about. We had our share of good times mixed in with the bad so he could of let off the gloom pedal....

 

 

[May Day 10]

He has been negative, but frankly, that was the appropriate mind-frame with this organization.

 

Just now they seem to be turning the corner into being a relevant NFL team for the first time in this millennium.  

[John from Riverside]

Always need a little moon with your sun

[MDH]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Yes he's been wrong. Because being an endless pessimist doesn't make you right. 

 

When you’ve been covering the Bills for the past 20 years it does.

[Da webster guy]

Thanks for not clicking on it.   I won't either.   It's the only way to make that old dog with fleas and rabies finally wander off for good.

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

I think it's a good year to be optimistic about the Bills.

 

It was. Until this news.

 

JINX!

[eball]

^^^^^^^

@Chandler#81 gets it.

[JESSEFEFFER]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

That said, he still gets great guests on his radio show

 

 

I keep forgetting about his show.  When WGR goes to The Instigators this time of year, I have been going to many of the podcasts that have cropped up lately.  Jerry could be a viable option to have on while I work around the lab.

[JESSEFEFFER]

One Jerry article I remember referred to JK as a "bumpkin that throws footballs" and Shane Conlan as an average LB.  It had some negative stuff about other players as well.  There might be something valuable about someone who can find the negative in every situation but I can't think of what it  might be right now.

Edited August 19, 2019 by JESSEFEFFER

[SWATeam]

I'm not going to get too worked up until @ScottLaw jumps on the bandwagon.  Then ***** gets real!  

[eball]

12 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

I'm not going to get too worked up until @ScottLaw jumps on the bandwagon.  Then ***** gets real!  

 

"I know we're 10-2, but if we just had a gosh darn #1 WR..."

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

 

"I know we're 10-2, but if we just had a gosh darn #1 WR..."

 

"We might be 10-2, but our point differential is pathetic.  Beane sucks."

[Marv's Neighbor]

5 hours ago, eball said:

Did I just see a Sully article linked on the front page of TBD?  Of course I won't click on it, but the "preview" seems to suggest Sully thinks this team is "different" and will take a big step forward.

 

We're screwed.

Been there, felt that, for many seasons.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Always need a little moon with your sun

 

Is this some strange, arcane Hemetian proverb I'm not familiar with?

 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, MDH said:

 

When you’ve been covering the Bills for the past 20 years it does.

 

36 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

One Jerry article I remember referred to JK as a "bumpkin that throws footballs" and Shane Conlan as an average LB.  It had some negative stuff about other players as well.  There might be something valuable about someone who can find the negative in every situation but I can't think of what it  might be right now.

 

So what's this excuse?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

4 hours ago, Boca BIlls said:

He has never been optimistic before so how are we screwed?

 

I don't recall hearing much about him back in the 1985 to 1995 era, was he covering the Bills then, was he negative then?  Not really certain there were even newspapers and reporters in the BI era. (before internet)  And if you go back another 10 years to the before cable era, was there even electricity back then?

[NoHuddleKelly12]

I remember him back in the BN days referencing some dude at the local watering hole (can’t remember his name) for his “man on the street” type take on how things were going periodically, and during the magic Fitzy run he was optimistic more so than not, IIRC. But yes, normally a negative nellie, so this is out of character for sure. 

[Lurker]

Don't get fooled again.

 

Setting them up to knock them down is one of Sully's tried and true lazy ass M.O.'s....

[Cheektowaga Chad]

As optimistic as I am about this coming season I can't get over one thing, the bills haven't absolutely crushed my soul in a few years.

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

His negativity is usually accurate.  That is probably why we dislike him.  So maybe his optomism will be as well.

For 17 plus years we've sucked and he called us out. Now we're going to get all superstitious because he sees the same optimism most of us do. Hilarious!

[BillsVet]

6 hours ago, eball said:

Did I just see a Sully article linked on the front page of TBD?  Of course I won't click on it, but the "preview" seems to suggest Sully thinks this team is "different" and will take a big step forward.

 

We're screwed.

 

Does this mean people can boycott Sal Capaccio's never-ending sunshine reports because he's a massive team homer?  I don't understand how fans who cannot bear a contrary opinion will immediately resort to ripping Jerry and eschew the guy's opinion.  Even I will listen to Sal whether I disagree with him or not.

 

4 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

He has been negative, but frankly, that was the appropriate mind-frame with this organization.

 

Just now they seem to be turning the corner into being a relevant NFL team for the first time in this millennium.  

 

I can be a little more optimistic given that A) McBeane prioritized finding a top QB prospect and B) they seem to have a plan.  Whether this is enough remains the question, whereas the path their predecessors chose was sure to fail. 

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

 

Yes he's been wrong. Because being an endless pessimist doesn't make you right. 

If you are a pessimist when your team has been bad for a decade and longer then your pessimism is warranted. Or another way of saying it is that you are right with your negative commentary. The Sabres and the Bills have for a long time not only been bad but mismanaged. He often stated that obvious fact. Some people are uncomfortable with facing that reality.

 

The owners have installed two competent regimes to run their franchises. Neither one went for the quick fix that would get them little beyond mediocrity. I'm optimistic about both franchises. (Although my hockey friends believe that I have a mental health issue.)  Eventually, the hockey team will get it turned around and I will without malice sneer back at them. 

[CardinalScotts]

Who the hell is still reading Jerry Sullivan?  are you kidding me?

He can't breakdown a kickball game

[eball]

22 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Does this mean people can boycott Sal Capaccio's never-ending sunshine reports because he's a massive team homer?  I don't understand how fans who cannot bear a contrary opinion will immediately resort to ripping Jerry and eschew the guy's opinion.  Even I will listen to Sal whether I disagree with him or not.

 

 

 

Lighten up, Francis...the thread was an obvious joke, but I realize by now you have no sense of humor.  I don't listen to or read Sully and haven't in years because he's just a miserable prick.  But you know what?  I don't listen to ANY local Buffalo radio shows because I hate on-air homerism just as much as I hate overly exuberant pessimism.  I read the Buffalo News articles because I think Vic is a well-connected guy and he isn't always looking for the pessimistic angle.  I read The Athletic for the same reason.  I just want balance.

 

2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

? when was the last time the Bills were 10-2?

 

Have you ever been the one guy in the room who doesn't get the joke?

 

Yes, I bet you have.

[BillsVet]

5 minutes ago, eball said:

Lighten up, Francis...the thread was an obvious joke, but I realize by now you have no sense of humor.  I don't listen to or read Sully and haven't in years because he's just a miserable prick.  But you know what?  I don't listen to ANY local Buffalo radio shows because I hate on-air homerism just as much as I hate overly exuberant pessimism.  I read the Buffalo News articles because I think Vic is a well-connected guy and he isn't always looking for the pessimistic angle.  I read The Athletic for the same reason.  I just want balance.

 

Pot meet kettle.  Here you are starting a thread about Sullivan, yet allegedly have the guy on full-mute?  Irony?  Coincidence?  I think not.  You loathe the man and don't miss an opportunity to bash him.  The guy is a lightning rod sometimes, but people here take it to extremes.  It's almost like you're not satisfied he's still in media after leaving the BN. 

 

And then, as if on cue, you fall back and claim it was all a weak attempt at humor.  Sorry, not buying it, because your reputation precedes itself.

 

Some of you are so desperate to attack anyone who doesn't share your opinion it's hard to ignore.  There is no semblance of debate, nor any attempt to do just that.  It's just "I hate that guy for not being as big a fan as I am." 

 

As a result, I contend these attacks on those who espouse a perceived negative opinion is based on some closely connecting much if not all one's identity with this team.  Despite it being entertainment, some fans cannot separate the two and the lashing out commences. 

[PromoTheRobot]

36 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you are a pessimist when your team has been bad for a decade and longer then your pessimism is warranted. Or another way of saying it is that you are right with your negative commentary. The Sabres and the Bills have for a long time not only been bad but mismanaged. He often stated that obvious fact. Some people are uncomfortable with facing that reality.

 

The owners have installed two competent regimes to run their franchises. Neither one went for the quick fix that would get them little beyond mediocrity. I'm optimistic about both franchises. (Although my hockey friends believe that I have a mental health issue.)  Eventually, the hockey team will get it turned around and I will without malice sneer back at them. 

 

There is a difference between giving analysis why something isn't going to work and just always saying you suck.

 

You are correct. The Bills and Sabres have a bad history of mismanagement. If you cover these teams and can see why things aren't going to work out, that's reporting based on your experience.

 

But if the only response to every hire, signing or draft pick pick is suck, suck, suck, you're just being negative. Bringing up what regimes did under Ralph has no bearing on what the Pegulas do.

 

But I get it. Some people just want to wallow in misery. 

[eball]

^^^^^^^

@BillsVet -- like I said, no sense of humor.  Sad.

[teef]

1 minute ago, BillsVet said:

 

Pot meet kettle.  Here you are starting a thread about Sullivan, yet allegedly have the guy on full-mute?  Irony?  Coincidence?  I think not.  You loathe the man and don't miss an opportunity to bash him.  The guy is a lightning rod sometimes, but people here take it to extremes.  It's almost like you're not satisfied he's still in media after leaving the BN. 

 

And then, as if on cue, you fall back and claim it was all a weak attempt at humor.  Sorry, not buying it, because your reputation precedes itself.

 

Some of you are so desperate to attack anyone who doesn't share your opinion it's hard to ignore.  There is no semblance of debate, nor any attempt to do just that.  It's just "I hate that guy for not being as big a fan as I am." 

 

As a result, I contend these attacks on those who espouse a perceived negative opinion is based on some closely connecting much if not all one's identity with this team.  Despite it being entertainment, some fans cannot separate the two and the lashing out commences. 

says the guy who goes incredibly far out of his way to call out optimism.  we all have opinions and are allowed to have/express them, but you're just as bad as the people you're describing.