Reed83HOF Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Edited August 12, 2019 by Reed83HOF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I'd be more disappointed if he didn't rejoin the Raiders.... now we can enjoy more issues and complaining and him torpedoing that franchise... Can't wait for him to have just 1 catch in week 1 and call our Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said: You're allowed to laugh all you want but who was the QB that broke our playoff drought? Andy Dalton. ? (Just kidding, but someone will make that claim anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Wait, so what happened to no helmet no football? You mean he was causing a scene for the sake of causing a scene? Who woulda thunk it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 45 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: He didn’t even get rid of the “ “ from his agent before posting it! ? dude isn’t playing with a full deck. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 So much for “retiring from football” if he doesn’t get to wear his old helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) I find it hilariously ironic that, as a Canadian (Montreal), I gotta be the one to school y'all Yankees on the concept of free choice. I think it is ridiculous that AB can't just sign a waiver and wear his helmet. Future players will have to choose from the approved list but guys like AB, TB, AR, etc, should be able to use what they want. On player safety, have you seen Micheal Bennett's shoulder pads? They are for a kicker I think. Even though heads are more fragile than shoulders, I think that guys who have been in the league for more than 3 years before the announcement of the change (five years ago) should be able to wear the equipment that they have worn since they entered the NFL. 9 year dudes should be able to choose for themselves provided they waive responsibility of the league. GO BILLS btw ? Edited August 12, 2019 by Threedollabills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said: You're allowed to laugh all you want but who was the QB that broke our playoff drought? I wasn't aware that he was solely responsible! I also wasn't aware that eking into the playoffs and proceeding to score 3 whole points qualifies a QB for the "franchise" label! Let's face it: "trade a mid round pick for the best WR in football" is a much, much, much less insane take than "I hereby proclaim Tyrod Taylor a franchise QB". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: I find it hilariously ironic that, as a Canadian (Montreal), I gotta be the one to school y'all Yankees on the concept of free choice. I think it is ridiculous that AB can't just sign a waiver and wear his helmet. Future players will have to choose from the approved list but guys like AB, TB, AR, etc, should be able to use what they want. On player safety, have you seen Micheal Bennett's shoulder pads? They are for a kicker I think. Even though heads are more fragile than shoulders, I think that guys who have been in the league for more than 3 years before the announcement of the change (five years ago) should be able to wear the equipment that they have worn since they entered the NFL. 9 year dudes should be able to choose for themselves provided they waive responsibility of the league. GO BILLS btw ? Two things- 1- I expect you to apologize to me. I’ll tell you why later when I think of the reason. (Not that there needs to be a reason, really.) 2- I get what you’re saying, but this is more of a “good of the brand” deal. And it’s not a football specific thing. Companies make blue collar workers wear steal toe boots and other such protective gear. When we’re talking about employement, freedom of choice is tempered by the freedom of the company to enact rules for their employees. He still has the freedom to not play football and lose millions of dollars. He’s shown he’s not willing to stand by that threat. Now, if Uncle Sam came round to my back yard and told my pickup game that we had to wear helmets or else we’d be fined or arrested, you can bet your maple syrupy sweet ass that there’d be a revolution right then and there (likely a short one, as we’re fat, slightly intoxicated, wanna be “operators”.) I imagine in Canada if the Mounties came round and ordered you to do something you’d thank them kindly and offer to buff their Sam Browne while you’re at it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: I find it hilariously ironic that, as a Canadian (Montreal), I gotta be the one to school y'all Yankees on the concept of free choice. I think it is ridiculous that AB can't just sign a waiver and wear his helmet. Future players will have to choose from the approved list but guys like AB, TB, AR, etc, should be able to use what they want. On player safety, have you seen Micheal Bennett's shoulder pads? They are for a kicker I think. Even though heads are more fragile than shoulders, I think that guys who have been in the league for more than 3 years before the announcement of the change (five years ago) should be able to wear the equipment that they have worn since they entered the NFL. 9 year dudes should be able to choose for themselves provided they waive responsibility of the league. GO BILLS btw ? The big problem is, people sign away things like this, and then bring a lawsuit anyways. Often they win or get a big settlement. Brown is definitely the person who would sign a paper until it is no longer convenient for him. It is completely understandable that the NFL wouldn’t be willing to take that chance for someone who has shown to lack all basic reasoning skills. Edited August 12, 2019 by Bills2ref 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 2:01 PM, Mark Vader said: One of your bold predictions was that the Raiders would say screw it and just forfeit the season and move to Las Vegas now..........You may have been onto something. NFLPA would never allow it unless NFL guaranteed that each and every member would be able to achieve every contract bonus in contracts and pay them for missing playoffs, Probowl and Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said: If the NFL wants headgear to meet a certain safety standard and Brown's old helmet doesnt, then it is pretty cut and dry. The NFL gives the players choices of certain helmets that are approved, pick one and deal with it. The NFL told teams and players that last year was the last year to be able to use that helmet. If you think the NFL is going to risk getting sued for head injury because they gave a waiver then you are definitely not smarter than an engineer. Approval process is not all safety. Some of it is marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Threedollabills said: I find it hilariously ironic that, as a Canadian (Montreal), I gotta be the one to school y'all Yankees on the concept of free choice. I think it is ridiculous that AB can't just sign a waiver and wear his helmet. Future players will have to choose from the approved list but guys like AB, TB, AR, etc, should be able to use what they want. On player safety, have you seen Micheal Bennett's shoulder pads? They are for a kicker I think. Even though heads are more fragile than shoulders, I think that guys who have been in the league for more than 3 years before the announcement of the change (five years ago) should be able to wear the equipment that they have worn since they entered the NFL. 9 year dudes should be able to choose for themselves provided they waive responsibility of the league. GO BILLS btw ? The rules are not driven by the NFL, but this was what the NFLPA wanted and agreed to. More safety for the players and better requirements for the manufacturers. I believe as long as he is part of the NFLPA - he gave up free choice. The rules are in place for all players to be treated equally and fairly. This is not the idiotic NHL that allowed players to be grandfathered in to not wearing helmets when it was clearly an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Threedollabills said: I find it hilariously ironic that, as a Canadian (Montreal), I gotta be the one to school y'all Yankees on the concept of free choice. I think it is ridiculous that AB can't just sign a waiver and wear his helmet. Future players will have to choose from the approved list but guys like AB, TB, AR, etc, should be able to use what they want. On player safety, have you seen Micheal Bennett's shoulder pads? They are for a kicker I think. Even though heads are more fragile than shoulders, I think that guys who have been in the league for more than 3 years before the announcement of the change (five years ago) should be able to wear the equipment that they have worn since they entered the NFL. 9 year dudes should be able to choose for themselves provided they waive responsibility of the league. GO BILLS btw ? The Al Secord Principle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: HEY now. Oh wait .... no degree . I'm not an engineer even though I do the job of one. Tom has to refit the new helmets with the illegal transceivers. That's not easy 1696 NFL players and 2 are whining There are Engineers and there are Engineers what actually learned from working the floor. "Book Smarts" don't mean crap the ones i deal with did not come from the floor and i want to strangle them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Doc said: Might as well quit again. .....tell 'em to wear it in the drive-thru window....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, QuoteTheRaven83 said: You're allowed to laugh all you want but who was the QB that broke our playoff drought? Peterman. If he had not blown up vs SD and been replaced by Tyrod, Bills may not have made playoffs as Peterman lost games looking Ok and still developing in the eyes of McBeane. that above secario could have happened but...... yes Tyrod was the man that year. I give him credit. Edited August 13, 2019 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 11:15 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: Thank God the nfl is the only place where divas exist. Could you imagine if politicians behaved like this??? Yeh, we'd have a real mess, wouldn"t we? Oh wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Imagine what this board would be like if the Bills actually landed AB. It would be a nice break from the Allen 50% completion stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 18 hours ago, Limeaid said: Approval process is not all safety. Some of it is marketing. That is true. It still remains that the NFL has banned his helmet and the NFL is specific as to what you can and cannot wear on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said: That is true. It still remains that the NFL has banned his helmet and the NFL is specific as to what you can and cannot wear on the field. The NFL hasn't "banned" his helmet. His particular helmet is just too old to be certified. It looks like he may have found a newer helmet of the same model with one (possibly two?) years left before it's over 10 years old. If it fits him, he can get it refurbished and repainted. If it passes the recertification, he can wear it. Once it's over 10 years old, he won't be able to wear it anymore. At least that's the way I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 problem solved. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: problem solved. /thread. Yeah, it's smooth sailing for the Raiders now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, The Dean said: The NFL hasn't "banned" his helmet. His particular helmet is just too old to be certified. It looks like he may have found a newer helmet of the same model with one (possibly two?) years left before it's over 10 years old. If it fits him, he can get it refurbished and repainted. If it passes the recertification, he can wear it. Once it's over 10 years old, he won't be able to wear it anymore. At least that's the way I understand it. Maybe he can wear his favorite helmet in CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills fan in 561 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 7:02 AM, Irv said: The guy has no sole You might say he knows the agany of dafeet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 8:52 PM, Rochesterfan said: The rules are not driven by the NFL, but this was what the NFLPA wanted and agreed to. More safety for the players and better requirements for the manufacturers. I believe as long as he is part of the NFLPA - he gave up free choice. The rules are in place for all players to be treated equally and fairly. This is not the idiotic NHL that allowed players to be grandfathered in to not wearing helmets when it was clearly an issue. like I said, no future players can use the old helmets; just the guys 9+ years in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 6:46 PM, Bills2ref said: The big problem is, people sign away things like this, and then bring a lawsuit anyways. Often they win or get a big settlement. Brown is definitely the person who would sign a paper until it is no longer convenient for him. It is completely understandable that the NFL wouldn’t be willing to take that chance for someone who has shown to lack all basic reasoning skills. That is where our Countries differ. In CAD, you could smash your face to bits from a slip and fall in a grocery on a banana peel left by an employee and the most you would see is a few 100k; let alone signing a waiver beforehand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 6:26 AM, Patrick_Duffy said: Well, time to amputate I guess....... He should have planned a 4th of July party with Jason Pierre-Paul. Could have killed a few toes with 1 fire cracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/7/2019 at 6:26 AM, Patrick_Duffy said: Well, time to amputate I guess....... Wait is this about the feet or the helmet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Dude's really picky about his helmet. I was like this when I broke my ply wooden green ping pong paddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Threedollabills said: like I said, no future players can use the old helmets; just the guys 9+ years in. Totally disagree - if the NFL and the Union make an agreement - all players within the union should abide by the decision. The players still have a choice, but it is to leave the union and play football someplace else. Their choice should not be about equipment. If the firefighters get some new equipment that better protects them and helps keep them alive - the fire chiefs do not go - well you are a veteran you can decide. Same with military or law enforcement- construction workers - etc. People in all manner of jobs have uniform and safety decisions thrust upon them and have to wear and do things beyond what they want because in reality people are stupid and avoid change for no reason. AB is acting like a baby and there is no reason he should be allowed to do something just because he is a whiner - suck it up or quit and get out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Threedollabills said: That is where our Countries differ. In CAD, you could smash your face to bits from a slip and fall in a grocery on a banana peel left by an employee and the most you would see is a few 100k; let alone signing a waiver beforehand. If only it was like that here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Dude's really picky about his helmet. I was like this when I broke my ply wooden green ping pong paddle. A signed helmet? How about.........oneBILLION dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: A signed helmet? How about.........oneBILLION dollars? Exactly. He is being super cheap. Like someone is going to fly out there for a signed helmet that AB himself gets for free. How about a minimum of 100k, you pay for my flight out there, and give me a few box seats to games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Even if he gets the helmet, he'll probably stiff them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 15 hours ago, The Dean said: The NFL hasn't "banned" his helmet. His particular helmet is just too old to be certified. It looks like he may have found a newer helmet of the same model with one (possibly two?) years left before it's over 10 years old. If it fits him, he can get it refurbished and repainted. If it passes the recertification, he can wear it. Once it's over 10 years old, he won't be able to wear it anymore. At least that's the way I understand it. Ok the helmet isnt approved by the NFL. Even Schutt the manufacturer said that they stopped producing that model helmet because it is old technology that has been surpassed by newer safer technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 too many pages and I'm too lazy to look Hey AB I have an "older" helmet the NFL may approve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Dude's really picky about his helmet. I was like this when I broke my ply wooden green ping pong paddle. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Has this been posted? Oakland Raiders wide receiver Antonio Brown is facing a civil lawsuit that alleges he stiffed a chef's bill of nearly $40,000 during Pro Bowl festivities in 2018. per ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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