stony Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I wanna know who he hired to paint his old helmet. The guy had one job and he screwed it up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Like I said back in the spring... Coaches/teams are almost always willing to give multiple chances to guys who with off-field issues - getting arrested for DUIs or drugs, beating-up their girlfriends/kids, etc. If the NFL doesn't issue a suspension, they have no problem putting these kinds of players on the field indefinitely. They know that regardless of how bad these offenses are, they will have little to no impact on the team's success. But once guys start doing stuff like this, you can forget it. Teams (at least the smart ones) know they can't succeed with these kind of distractions. They bring down morale and divide locker rooms. Pittsburgh had absolutely no problem dumping Antonio Brown, and you can tell that Oakland is already starting to regret picking him up. Just something to consider when you see (for example) Brandon Beane trading away Marcel Dareus for scraps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 That’s just crazy. It’s like he believes his WR skills are imbued to him through his helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Sometimes it is the trade/transaction that is not made Could you imagine giving up a huge portion of our new found salary cap to AB and this happen if he was with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Holy ***** 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** Secret drug compartment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** Who was it here that CASTIGATED Beane for not landing Brown? I wanna take a victory lap. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Sometimes it is the trade/transaction that is not made Could you imagine giving up a huge portion of our new found salary cap to AB and this happen if he was with us? Talk about dodging a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Who was it here that CASTIGATED Beane for not landing Brown? I wanna take a victory lap. Beane is a wizard, a futurist, a soothsayer and a great GM. Love that man! 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Talk about dodging a bullet. Dodging a nuclear warhead... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** K-mart. 400 Oak Street. Cincinnati, Ohio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) Mort with the two word kill-shot @mortreport · 1m Oh boy Quote Tweet Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 8m And now this: Raiders’ WR Antonio Brown has told team officials that, unless he gets to wear his old helmet, he will not play football again, per league sources. And more.... Edited August 9, 2019 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Who was it here that CASTIGATED Beane for not landing Brown? I wanna take a victory lap. I mean I guess the idea was that with a good enough locker room/culture you could absorb a crazy player but I don't think a good enough one exists for this much crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 fwiw -and it’s totally nothing, I’m sad to see the helmet look of the past now be banned. I liked seeing Rodgers wearing that helmet as it had the look of Favre and Starr before him. These new ones just don’t have the same appeal. but I’m old.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: I mean I guess the idea was that with a good enough locker room/culture you could absorb a crazy player but I don't think a good enough one exists for this much crazy. lol that would be a BAD idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeF Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 In better times....... https://www.raiders.com/video/antonio-brown-surprises-derek-carr-with-a-visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It looks the Raiders do not want him. I think he can be got for a 7th rounder. We could steal him right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Read that thred..holy moly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Like I said back in the spring... Coaches/teams are almost always willing to give multiple chances to guys who with off-field issues - getting arrested for DUIs or drugs, beating-up their girlfriends/kids, etc. If the NFL doesn't issue a suspension, they have no problem putting these kinds of players on the field indefinitely. They know that regardless of how bad these offenses are, they will have little to no impact on the team's success. But once guys start doing stuff like this, you can forget it. Teams (at least the smart ones) know they can't succeed with these kind of distractions. They bring down morale and divide locker rooms. Pittsburgh had absolutely no problem dumping Antonio Brown, and you can tell that Oakland is already starting to regret picking him up. Just something to consider when you see (for example) Brandon Beane trading away Marcel Dareus for scraps. But the guys on WGR55, lead by Schopp and White argue that culture, accountability, maturity and other qualitative measures are meaningless. Essentially, these guys believe there is zero negative impacts when players of this ilk act as they do. The issue with these dorks is they believe in binary quantitative evidence. In other words, they look at yards and catches and that, and only that, is a measure of the value of a player. They can be self-destructive off the field, destroy the lockerroom, and undermine the coach but none of that will impact the team or their own play because.... numbers. I am continually fascinated by the WGR55 people when I get a chance to listen. They seems to always focus on data and numbers, incorrectly in most cases, yet fail miserably in understanding that in all professions, and hockey and football are not immune, back co-workers can often have a deleterious impact on the organization. For some reason, they believe sports are immune. As soon as someone comes up with an analytical measure that quantifies the impact of these losers on a team, then maybe they'll believe in it. Let's maybe add some context here. You can't tell me that in cases where someone has to make a tough block or play to support a catch and run by Brown that less effort might be put into it because he's not someone a millionaire is going to stick his neck out for. That would impact, for example, yards after a catch in this on instance. That is a direct impact on the game due to bad behavior and I bet my next paycheck on it that it happens. The reason is, guys say they work harder for guys they love, who are committed to the team. So the inverse is true. In the end, I railed against these kinds of players before and am a major supported of McD and Beane and the way they are shaping this team. Emotional maturity, team-first, football IQ, hard working, and smart. You can teach and coach up the emotionally intelligent and smart players, you can't with the Browns and Dareuses of the world... the perpetually late, inattentive, divas who put themselves above the team. So I will thoroughly enjoy his lackluster season (he gave up on a much better QB) as much as I'll enjoy watching the Cowboys suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Raiders better figure this out or he's going to get in his hot air balloon and return to his world among the clouds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, zonabb said: But the guys on WGR55, lead by Schopp and White argue that culture, accountability, maturity and other qualitative measures are meaningless. Essentially, these guys believe there is zero negative impacts when players of this ilk act as they do. The issue with these dorks is they believe in binary quantitative evidence. In other words, they look at yards and catches and that, and only that, is a measure of the value of a player. They can be self-destructive off the field, destroy the lockerroom, and undermine the coach but none of that will impact the team or their own play because.... numbers. I am continually fascinated by the WGR55 people when I get a chance to listen. They seems to always focus on data and numbers, incorrectly in most cases, yet fail miserably in understanding that in all professions, and hockey and football are not immune, back co-workers can often have a deleterious impact on the organization. For some reason, they believe sports are immune. As soon as someone comes up with an analytical measure that quantifies the impact of these losers on a team, then maybe they'll believe in it. Let's maybe add some context here. You can't tell me that in cases where someone has to make a tough block or play to support a catch and run by Brown that less effort might be put into it because he's not someone a millionaire is going to stick his neck out for. That would impact, for example, yards after a catch in this on instance. That is a direct impact on the game due to bad behavior and I bet my next paycheck on it that it happens. The reason is, guys say they work harder for guys they love, who are committed to the team. So the inverse is true. In the end, I railed against these kinds of players before and am a major supported of McD and Beane and the way they are shaping this team. Emotional maturity, team-first, football IQ, hard working, and smart. You can teach and coach up the emotionally intelligent and smart players, you can't with the Browns and Dareuses of the world... the perpetually late, inattentive, divas who put themselves above the team. So I will thoroughly enjoy his lackluster season (he gave up on a much better QB) as much as I'll enjoy watching the Cowboys suck. That is not even close to what they argue. What they argue is culture with out talent and strategy is not going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Refusing to play again unless his helmet get approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, plenzmd1 said: That is not even close to what they argue. What they argue is culture with out talent and strategy is not going to win. Exactly this. Talent and winning can also create a culture. The U had a culture that is the complete opposite of Bama/Patriots yet both were dynasties. Talent > culture all day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MDH Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 HBO is loving this I’m sure. Ratings bonanza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Antonio Brown is going to put Terrell Owens antics to shame by the time his career is finished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Good move for him. Now he'll get to keep all that guaranteed money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Is this guy really a piece of crap? I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because that Pittsburgh team seemed so toxic the past few seasons, but he’s REALLY starting to act more and more like a prima donna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 ...problems with his feet??....just the tip of the iceberg....good luck Chuckie...SMH...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Is this guy really a piece of crap? I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because that Pittsburgh team seemed so toxic the past few seasons, but he’s REALLY starting to act more and more like a prima donna. He came to training camp in a hot air balloon pretty sure he didn't have any trouble providing the hot air. Edited August 9, 2019 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: He came to training camp in a hot air balloon pretty sure he didn't have any trouble with the hot air. he wears a size 38 effin' hat to fit his swelled head.......who makes a helmet THAT big?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Sounds to me like he should''ve had a better helmet years ago. He lives in his own swelled head. Glad we didn't land that clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, jletha said: Exactly this. Talent and winning can also create a culture. The U had a culture that is the complete opposite of Bama/Patriots yet both were dynasties. Talent > culture all day Tell that to the Patriots.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 And they blamed Ben for this fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 This Antonio Brown seems like a real jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) So only AB can’t see with this new helmet? Edited August 9, 2019 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Wow, can you imagine if the Bills did land him, and then this happened? It's amazing Beane was even going after this player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Holy ***** And they wonder why teams want to pay signing bonuses at intervals. He will likely burn all the money, hold out and when the Raiders try to get the money back he will say he is broke with debiters getting first claim on any money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Dude literally wants to do whatever he wants and basically have the team thank him for it. I'm pretty sure he'd love to skip every practice and meeting and just show up for games on Sundays. Complaining about the helmet is real amateur hour stuff. He has to know he comes off looking like a jackass, but whatever, in his mind he can do anything he wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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