YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Edited April 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Nope. No more lingering issue players. That has never worked out well for us 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 I wonder why he didn’t just have the surgery in late November when his season ended ? He didn’t play in the bowl game. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I wonder why he didn’t just have the surgery in late November when his season ended ? He didn’t play in the bowl game. I almost wonder if he didn’t know how severe it was and wanted to finish his season OR was afraid of what it would do to his draft stock to put it out there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Didn’t want him anyways 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 He's definitely in the running at #9 and if we trade down so brace yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: I almost wonder if he didn’t know how severe it was and wanted to finish his season OR was afraid of what it would do to his draft stock to put it out there He did finish his season though. His last game was the third weekend in November. Sat out the bowl game. He must have thought he didn’t need surgery but it seems like we see guys play through this and they always need the surgery eventually (ie Shaq, Zay Jones is his rookie year ). He got bad advice imo because the docs will always flag it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Assuming this is true, and combining this information with his reported score of 9 on the Wonderlic, I would pass. Seems like the kind of thing that could knock him pretty far down in the first round (or even out of the first round), if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 He will drop as a result. Suddenly with Sweat and Gary potential sliding out of the top 10 things have just got even more interesting. My v2.0 mock is causing me a lack of sleep! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Maybe whoever drafts him can hire Benny Hinn to ‘HEAL!’ Gary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He did finish his season though. His last game was the third weekend in November. Sat out the bowl game. He must have thought he didn’t need surgery but it seems like we see guys play through this and they always need the surgery eventually (ie Shaq, Zay Jones is his rookie year ). He got bad advice imo because the docs will always flag it. That’s what I meant, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder why he didn’t just have the surgery in late November when his season ended ? He didn’t play in the bowl game. Preparation for his job interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I don’t see Beane going anywhere near this. Too many good healthy players will be available. If Gary is there in the second and Beane has procured an extra pick, then possibly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, K-9 said: Preparation for his job interview? Jerry Tillery had same thing and elected to have the surgery. Seems to me that teams would rather a player come in already repaired even if still rehabbing, because they will play sooner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Jerry Tillery had same thing and elected to have the surgery. Seems to me that teams would rather a player come in already repaired even if still rehabbing, because they will play sooner. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Gary may say that he can play through it, but he did not play through it in college. He missed 4 games. At least Shaq did play through his. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Lots of injuries on the D-Line front. It could make for some really big steals at the back-end of the 1st Round/top of the 2nd. Jeffery Simmons was probably a Top 5 pick before the ACL injury. Montez Sweat was a Top 10 lock. Now he's got a heart condition. Jerry Tillery was an early 1st Rounder, then needed shoulder surgery. Until this, Rashan Gary was generally considered a Top 10 pick as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Virgil said: Nope. No more lingering issue players. That has never worked out well for us Thurman says hi. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Fully recovering from a torn Labrum takes TWO years. Personal experience, and Andrew Luck supports that. ‘No... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Maybe whoever drafts him can hire Benny Hinn to ‘HEAL!’ Gary? I never heard of Hinn until my brother was a chef at exclusive resort hotel, that was its own island. Rooms went for something like $500-$5000 a night. Hinn rented the whole hotel, and all hotel staff was given lots of instruction- don’t look him in eye, etc. my brother called me and said “ who the hell is benny Hinn?” What a scumbag Hinn is!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Shaq Lawson 2.0. Could be a red-shirt situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: He's definitely in the running at #9 and if we trade down so brace yourselves I thought he was in the mix before for the Bills at 9, but I don’t anymore unless they trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I thought he was in the mix before for the Bills at 9, but I don’t anymore unless they trade down. Yeah, he's out of the top 10 for sure. Not a good look for a guy who already has questions about motivation and dedication to the game... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 He should drop like a rock. I’m always wary of guys with injuries prior to the draft. That injury risk doesn’t get any better when your playing with the most freak athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) gruden and mayock have to be elated. Good chance that he will drop to the raiders at 4 now. ? Edited April 23, 2019 by dubs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, dubs said: gruden and mayock have to be elated. Good chance that he will drop to the raiders at 4 now. ? Is this the curveball that's being rumored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, apuszczalowski said: Is this the curveball that's being rumored? If it’s Gruden and the Raiders, it’s more likely one of those 57 foot sinkers that skittle through the catcher to the backstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Is this the curveball that's being rumored? I don’t think they take him at 4, but with 3 first rounders I could see them using one on him if he falls to them at 24 or 27. Could also see them using one on Jeffrey Simmons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Don't draft any of those U of M defensive players... all hype. Avoid! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Sounds like the Shaq Lawson shoulder situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Sounds like the Shaq Lawson shoulder situation. That’s almost worthy of Irv Weinstein’s alliteration on ‘Eye Missed It News’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I want nothing to do with Gary, nothing. Second round? Sure. In the first round? Omg, please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, mjt328 said: Lots of injuries on the D-Line front. It could make for some really big steals at the back-end of the 1st Round/top of the 2nd. Jeffery Simmons was probably a Top 5 pick before the ACL injury. Montez Sweat was a Top 10 lock. Now he's got a heart condition. Jerry Tillery was an early 1st Rounder, then needed shoulder surgery. Until this, Rashan Gary was generally considered a Top 10 pick as well. I'd take Sweat at 9. His heart condition did not even stop him from doing the combine, where he dominated. Also dominated in college. Simmons (guy was dominant when healthy), in late 1st. Was Tillery really an early 1st rounder? I'm asking, I have no idea. I hear he has "motivation" issues? Gary I want no part of. He is a classic underachiever. 5-star who did not produce in college. Not sure why he is ever considered a top 10 pick. 49 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I want nothing to do with Gary, nothing. Second round? Sure. In the first round? Omg, please no. I don't even want him in the 2nd! 3rd or later, okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Gary is the number 1 player I hope they don't touch with a 10 foot pole. Limited college production, "physical freak" but with no stats to back it up, questions about whether he really loves football, and now this? Stay away, Beane. Stay far, far away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 This will hurt his stock I would assume. And I figured he would slip before even hearing this. Seems to me like a “traits” guy. Hasn’t really produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Rashan Gary, meet the second round. Second round, Rashan Gary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'm wondering if I was too hard on Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm wondering if I was too hard on Gary He was frightening in 2017 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Well this sounds familiar. I hope that is enough to just say "no" to Rashan Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder why he didn’t just have the surgery in late November when his season ended ? He didn’t play in the bowl game. Same reason shaq probably didn't - probably his agent hoping dr's dont see it and you can get through the draft process and maximize your value up front. Having a post season surgery probably pushes him down boards as team's wont be certain they can be as much of a year 1 contributor. 15 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Rashan Gary, meet the second round. Second round, Rashan Gary... Yeah - i still think he makes it in the first. The last 2 major injury guys to fall like that were jaylon smith and myles jack that one year (both had more major injuries)- and both turned into solid pros. Neither is a primary pass rusher though - which tends to provide more value. Edited April 23, 2019 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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