Rigotz Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I'm pretty sure most of that anger was because Peterman remained on the roster. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rigotz said: How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) He was released by Raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Signing him for only $5M compared to $15-20M for guys like Bradford or Glennon was a huge win, as was getting a 5th for a guy that seems to struggle with being a decent backup in this league. The concerns were justified, though. This coaching staff saw and practiced with Peterman all offseason to determine that he could start, and that only he and our rookie were enough to roster. Props to Beane for being honest and saying that this was a mistake and that a veteran like DA should have been added earlier (which was what most of us were saying). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I was happy then. I’m happy now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Georgie said: He was released by Raiders ...and now on to Houston........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm pretty sure most of that anger was because Peterman remained on the roster. This is revisionist history. Not what happened. The anger was because folks thought McCarron was a good starter and shouldn't be traded because Josh Allen wasn't ready to play and the O-Line wasn't performing well in pre-season and early season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 very happy with the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I always thought the Raiders were morons for giving up a 5th for AJ instead of just keeping EJ. But I remember watching the Ravens opener in Miami under a hurricane watch and just hating life. But the pick is ok now. 10 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This is revisionist history. Not what happened. The anger was because folks thought McCarron was a good starter and shouldn't be traded because Josh Allen wasn't ready to play and the O-Line wasn't performing well in pre-season and early season. Only delusional fans thought AJ was a good starter. But most agreed that Allen shouldn’t start right away. To go with allen and Peterman as your only 2 QBs was embarrassing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This is revisionist history. Not what happened. The anger was because folks thought McCarron was a good starter and shouldn't be traded because Josh Allen wasn't ready to play and the O-Line wasn't performing well in pre-season and early season. No. Many people thought that he was the only viable starting QB on the roster for week 1. viable =/= good by the way Edited April 22, 2019 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) We got Screwed... .. Edited April 22, 2019 by HOUSE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This is revisionist history. Not what happened. The anger was because folks thought McCarron was a good starter and shouldn't be traded because Josh Allen wasn't ready to play and the O-Line wasn't performing well in pre-season and early season. I can’t speak for everyone but for me it was 1,000% about Peterman. They believed he was an option. MANY people here didn’t and didn’t think Allen was ready. They were right about that. The Bills did well to get a 5th for McCarron. The Bills screwed up by allowing Peterman to start the 1st game. Both of those things are true now and were true at that point. Edited April 22, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, Rigotz said: How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) This has to be the worst "I-told-you-so" in history. Anything done by the Bills brass in reference to the QB situation last season (after drafting Allen) was pretty much a disaster. Even with a 2019 5th rounder to show for it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 That P5t5rman looked acceptable as potential starter is due to NFLPA rules regarding contact - when contact is limited as much as it is it can be hard to tell how a player will react with real bullets flying. Unfortunately vanilla defenses in preseason do not help with this evaluation. He worked hard, studied hard and looked better than McCarron in camp (McCarron had been injured in Browns game further limiting his ability to show what he could do). Bills should have been able to find SOMEONE better however in preseason - the offense is not so complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, Rigotz said: This is revisionist history. Not what happened. The anger was because folks thought McCarron was a good starter and shouldn't be traded because Josh Allen wasn't ready to play and the O-Line wasn't performing well in pre-season and early season. Was a “good starter”? Lol. I don’t recall that. Couldn’t have been too many people saying it, if any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, wppete said: very happy with the 5th The 5th was fine. Paying McCarron $4.1M to get that 5th was stupid. So was keeping Peterman on the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I can’t speak for everyone but for me it was 1,000% about Peterman. They believed he was an option. MANY people here didn’t and didn’t think Allen was ready. They were right about that. The Bills did well to get a 5th for McCarron. The Bills screwed up by allowing Peterman to start the 1st game. Both of those things are true now and were true at that point. It all goes to show how misleading preseason can be. Getting a draft pick for AJ looks like a magic trick now. But you were firm from the beginning on Mr Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Augie said: It all goes to show how misleading preseason can be. Getting a draft pick for AJ looks like a magic trick now. But you were firm from the beginning on Mr Peterman. My undying hatred for the player has never wavered. He is, without question, the worst player to ever put on a Bills uniform. Some people will say “that’s harsh” or “not true” but he is statistically the worst player to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s the worst, 2nd worst is up for debate... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: My undying hatred for the player has never wavered. He is, without question, the worst player to ever put on a Bills uniform. Some people will say “that’s harsh” or “not true” but he is statistically the worst player to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s the worst, 2nd worst is up for debate... But please, tell us how you really feel about him....... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: My undying hatred for the player has never wavered. He is, without question, the worst player to ever put on a Bills uniform. Some people will say “that’s harsh” or “not true” but he is statistically the worst player to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s the worst, 2nd worst is up for debate... Like you I thought he was a bad pick from beginning and even worse decision when made starter (at the minimum the Bills should not have not announced QB change) but I do not hate the player just the decision to play him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Rigotz said: How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) First of all at the time the plan was and (correct me if I’m wrong ) for Allen to sit and learn possibly for the entire season ( like KC did with Mahomes ) so yes at the time people were right to be angry ? , who else did we have besides the 5 pick Peterman ? But I don’t remember anyone calling for McBean to be fired over a career backup QB , but then again with some of the members we have on here wouldn’t surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Rigotz said: How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) Havent really thought about it much since to be honest.. If they use the pick and get someone like Milano I will be happy... If they use it to acquire someone like Kolby Listenbee I will be pretty meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm pretty sure most of that anger was because Peterman remained on the roster. Nonetheless , a helluva trade. Not sure how Beane pulled that off. We got slot of Ammo heading into Thurs. I think he'll be wheeling and dealing all 3 days. You know what else I like more and more? The Star signing. We got a starting DT for the next 4 yrs who is a valuable piece to this Defense and scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: My undying hatred for the player has never wavered. He is, without question, the worst player to ever put on a Bills uniform. Some people will say “that’s harsh” or “not true” but he is statistically the worst player to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s the worst, 2nd worst is up for debate... I suppose being the worst is better than the 2nd worst. People will remember Peterman. I liked the guy, even though he was awful. Didn't really like him playing, but still hope he gets in and finds it as a backup game-manager type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Augie said: It all goes to show how misleading preseason can be. Getting a draft pick for AJ looks like a magic trick now. But you were firm from the beginning on Mr Peterman. It was hard to dismiss Peterman as he was killing it in the preseason. That said not having a veteran to back him up might have been foolish but then again we got to see Josh and as much as doubted him he proved me wrong last season that he was just as ready to play as any other rookie QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The title of this thread led me to believe that AJ McCarron would be announcing our 5th round pick. That would be newsworthy. Let's see if McCarron can generate draft action like Matt Cassel, who accounted for Bills' picks in 3 straight drafts: 2015 draft: No. 137: Buffalo → Minnesota (PD). Buffalo traded this selection and their seventh round selection in 2016 (240th) to Minnesota in exchange for quarterback Matt Cassel and... 2016 draft: ...Minnesota's sixth round selection (187th) 2017 draft: No. 171: Dallas → Buffalo (PD). Dallas traded a fifth-round selection to Buffalo in exchange for Buffalo's seventh-round selection and quarterback Matt Cassel And with that #171 pick, the Bills selected... Nathan Peterman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I suppose being the worst is better than the 2nd worst. People will remember Peterman. I liked the guy, even though he was awful. Didn't really like him playing, but still hope he gets in and finds it as a backup game-manager type. I guess that’s kind of my issue with him. He actually performed worse than any QB ever. As far as I am concerned he is less deserving of another chance than any QB. I feel way worse for guys like Thad Lewis and TJ Yates that have shown some level of competency. I cheer for Peterman to be the heir apparent to Tom Brady. Edited April 23, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: We got Screwed... .. If by "we" you mean those that bought McCarron jerseys then yes I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: My undying hatred for the player has never wavered. He is, without question, the worst player to ever put on a Bills uniform. Some people will say “that’s harsh” or “not true” but he is statistically the worst player to ever play the most important position in the game. He’s the worst, 2nd worst is up for debate... So you're saying there's a chance Peterman becomes a franchise QB at some point for some NFL team? Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, 2ForMacAdoo said: So you're saying there's a chance Peterman becomes a franchise QB at some point for some NFL team? Gotcha. Hoping for New England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Rigotz said: How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) Im more disappointed in this post then I ever was for the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 This is history. Who cares? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 BTW, What pick # is it? 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: This is history. Who cares? We will care if it repeats itself....or will we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Rigotz said: How are you guys feeling about the trade now? Seems like at the time, some of you were extremely angry about the trade. I recall seeing "fire Beane" all over the boards. Would you rather have the 5th round pick in this year's draft or AJ McCarron? (who did not re-sign with the team that traded for him) OMG the early season freakouts were both hilarious and over the top annoying all at the same time. It still blows my mind how many people couldn't actually see what was going on and believed the 2018 offense was McD and Beanes final offensive plan hahahahaha. Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Georgie said: He was released by Raiders Peterman is still there isnt he. 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I guess that’s kind of my issue with him. He actually performed worse than any QB ever. As far as I am concerned he is less deserving of another chance than any QB. I feel way worse for guys like Thad Lewis and TJ Yates that have shown some level of competency. I cheer for Peterman to be the heir apparent to Tom Brady. I want him completing TD passes to whatever guy is covering AB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5th round pick is highly unlikely to amount to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, MacGyver said: 5th round pick is highly unlikely to amount to anything. you're the former poster t-bomb/white dwarf...aren't you? and as far as 5ths go, we did get milano. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, teef said: you're the former poster t-bomb/white dwarf...aren't you? and as far as 5ths go, we did get milano. And Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dopey said: And Kyle. him too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, teef said: him too! Yes, but the odds say, it's unlikely. All I'm saying is no one should be full of Glee or think that Beane stole anything by receiving a 5th rounder for McCarron. That's just silly talk. As well as no one should have been pissed McCarron was traded. 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%) Edited April 23, 2019 by MacGyver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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