LabattBlue Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I heard the PFF guys talking him up a couple weeks ago on Sirius/NFL channel as one of the best at his position. Is he worth a 2nd round pick, or is he just another “high motor guy” who tries hard but doesn’t get the results to match the effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I don't see anything spectacular when watching him. As you stated, more of a high motor guy in my opinion. I'd value him more of a 3rd rounder, but I'm far from an expert talent evaluator. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I heard he brings his lunch pail every day. I like him and he was much more productive than Gray. It depends where he goes but I can certainly see him being a productive number 2 type pass rusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Haven't we already used our 2nd on Andy Isabella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 He's a nice prospect. Where he goes? No idea but I like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I don't think the value is there this year to take him at 40, for instance. Our FO has certainly leaned towards talent and a high ceiling early, but they also chose Zay Jones in the second whom wasn't really a high ceiling type. Based on what I see in this year's class I think the first 2 selections are going to be athletically gifted, and then we'll start compromising a bit in the name of process oriented types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 For me.... not at 40.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3rd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) I picked him in our 2-round mock for Carolina. Dude fractured his skull in junior high and had to overcome a lot to get to where he is now. I think 40 is a bit high, but I'd be in on this pick. Edited April 22, 2019 by Golden Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 He's a solid 3rd rounder in my eyes. I'd prefer Jaylon Ferguson in the 2nd 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: For me.... not at 40.. Not me either, He'll be over-drafted by someone in the second round and not be available when the Bills pick in the third round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I have him pegged as the long haired dyed blond version of Chris Kelsay. Put his motor in Rashan Gary and call me back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Force Player and a McDermott type (loves the game) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Haven't we already used our 2nd on Andy Isabella? I hope not. We already have him on the roster. His name is Cole Beasley. And... we could wait until the 4th to draft him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Yes he has a high motor, never stops and brings his lunchbox to work. Works just has hard in practice but he cant drop into coverage. So maybe our 3rd pick maybe 4th in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I would be very happy if the Bills drafted him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I heard he brings his lunch pail every day. I like him and he was much more productive than Gray. It depends where he goes but I can certainly see him being a productive number 2 type pass rusher. My kind of guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Fairburn's mock in today's Athletic... Round 3, Pick 74 Chase Winovich, defensive end, Michigan The Bills still need long-term help at defensive end. Shaq Lawson and Jerry Hughes are both entering contract years, while Trent Murphy remains a question mark due to injuries. Chase Winovich performed well at the combine, showing that his athletic traits match the impressive production he had at Michigan. Depending on how the Bills view him, he could either play defensive end or the SAM linebacker role currently occupied by Lorenzo Alexander. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Id like him in the 3rd round. I think there are better players available at 40. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: He's a solid 3rd rounder in my eyes. I'd prefer Jaylon Ferguson in the 2nd after ed oliver in the 1st with ferguson then oshane ximines in the mid rds. and maxx crosby with a 5th....omg believe me, with all this fo has done in free agency, they realize(d) that this draft is all set up for them to build a kick ass defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Haven't we already used our 2nd on Andy Isabella? Get both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I heard the PFF guys talking him up a couple weeks ago on Sirius/NFL channel as one of the best at his position. Is he worth a 2nd round pick, or is he just another “high motor guy” who tries hard but doesn’t get the results to match the effort? Loseovich??? HAHAHAHAHAHA Nobody from that vastly overrated TTUN defense should be drafted by the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I generally have no use for high-motor lunch-pailers who don't play QB or OL, but this guy is an exception, love to see him on the Bills. I can't see him dropping to the 3rd round though... if anything, I can see him going closer to the end of the 1st, maybe to the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 He’s no Tim Anderson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Watched several Michigan games last year and found him very mediocre. Kelsay 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Haven't we already used our 2nd on Andy Isabella? Hahahaha...AWESOME. And, I fully endorse this strategy to keep him away from the Cheats!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyhjUFcXgo0 Edited April 23, 2019 by Houston's #1 Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Wunovich himself has credited the attention paid to Rashan Gary for the productivity. It fell precipitously without Gary. I would pass in round 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I think he will really struggle as a 4-3 end. His arms are short and he just isn't stout enough imo. I think he could be serviceable in a 3-4 where he might get moved around a bit. Interesting player with nice hair, but I don't see a fit here. Guys like Sweat, Ferguson...those are McDermott ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Wunovich himself has credited the attention paid to Rashan Gary for the productivity. It fell precipitously without Gary. I would pass in round 2. Are you saying his production was a *checks notes*... mirage? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Plays angry, has great hair. IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Watched several Michigan games last year and found him very mediocre. Kelsay 2.0 Same here. Announcers talked him up endlessly but I never saw a guy who stood out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Wunovich himself has credited the attention paid to Rashan Gary for the productivity. It fell precipitously without Gary. I would pass in round 2. This is 100% accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 13 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I heard the PFF guys talking him up a couple weeks ago on Sirius/NFL channel as one of the best at his position. Is he worth a 2nd round pick, or is he just another “high motor guy” who tries hard but doesn’t get the results to match the effort? https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-michigans-chase-winovich-is-more-than-just-a-scouting-cliche They have him 29 on their big board. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pffs-top-50-big-board-for-the-2019-nfl-draft Here is PFFs top 250 for whatever it's worth. It's interesting seeing the differences between different people's boards. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pffs-top-250-big-board-for-the-2019-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 He is 258 lbs. Ran sub 4.6 40, 4th among EDGE, 3rd in 3 cone and first in 20 yd shuttle. Impressive athlete for his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 13 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I heard the PFF guys talking him up a couple weeks ago on Sirius/NFL channel as one of the best at his position. Is he worth a 2nd round pick, or is he just another “high motor guy” who tries hard but doesn’t get the results to match the effort? 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 14 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Watched several Michigan games last year and found him very mediocre. Kelsay 2.0 So you didn't see the Wisconsin game? 15 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Loseovich??? HAHAHAHAHAHA Nobody from that vastly overrated TTUN defense should be drafted by the Bills. Yes, because the Bills have such a great history with drafting Ohio players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 16 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Wunovich himself has credited the attention paid to Rashan Gary for the productivity. It fell precipitously without Gary. I would pass in round 2. I think that’s obvious - Gary played the 6 technique and was anchoring a lot. Winovich was a pure pass rusher. He didn’t have to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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