JaCrispy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I'll suck some D to get Bosa and Hock You’re not fooling anyone, Mister...we all know you would do it for free...? #alittletooeager Edited March 29, 2019 by JaCrispy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Didn't that dude once say he would suck D to get Austin Proehl and Ray Ray McCloud? Terrible picks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Didn't that dude once say he would suck D to get Austin Proehl and Ray Ray McCloud? It could simply be Sherlock's thing, so it might not be that much of a stretch for him/her 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Everyone hopes to uncover late round gems. That goes with out saying. Percentages say that the top of the draft produces stars though. QBs and Pass Rushers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, john wawrow said: apparently Heh. Sorry John. I live in San Diego. Where would I see your stuff? PK Edited March 29, 2019 by familykwi spelling out SD so as not to be confused with South Dakota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yup, thats why Free Agency was such a big win for Beane. With 10 draft picks too, he has the ability to anything With our cap space this and next year, if we don't feel too good about what is in the 2020 draft (due to underclassman) and plan on picking after 20ish. You could argue that next year's one could be easily on the table to shoot up for a generational blue chip pass rusher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I'll suck some D to get Bosa and Hock You’re in luck. I happen to control where Bosa gets drafted. Step into my van 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 how a fine thread becomes so quickly tarnished. Thanks Virgil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: You’re in luck. I happen to control where Bosa gets drafted. Step into my van ....... Is that an Atari? Edited March 29, 2019 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 minute ago, White Linen said: ....... Is that an Atari? hard to tell with all the pot smoke and deep shag rugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Would I? No. Should they? Only if they believe that the guy they're targeting is a future all pro. They literally do not have a single star player on the roster. It would make some sense. Hate to give up next year’s first but if they think they’ve found their QB, all options should be on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, familykwi said: Heh. Sorry John. I live in San Diego. Where would I see your stuff? PK I’ve on occasion had a story or two linked on TwoBillsDrive. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: With our cap space this and next year, if we don't feel too good about what is in the 2020 draft (due to underclassman) and plan on picking after 20ish. You could argue that next year's one could be easily on the table to shoot up for a generational blue chip pass rusher Yeah, and if we move up high from 9 it may take that. I still remain skeptical we would move up from 9 just because the cost is so high and the draft is so rich in the first 2 rounds. I am firmly convinced, and have been all offseason, that Beane will be moving around this draft and will not end it with 10 players drafted. I have just felt that it was more likely to be after our first pick and Beane could even make more than one trade up in the draft. With the number of FA's we signed, everything has certainly changed. He signed about twice as many as I excepted. So now anything is possible and I think its a lock that at some point, maybe even more than once, Beane will be making upward moves to get a player. If I was to make a mock now...I think I would have the Bills stay at 9 but then make a move to get back into the first to grab another player. Maybe thats DK then Simmons. Or DT/EDGE then TJ/Fant. Or DT/EDGE then Harry/AJ Brown. So many ways this could play out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, and if we move up high from 9 it may take that. I still remain skeptical we would move up from 9 just because the cost is so high and the draft is so rich in the first 2 rounds. I am firmly convinced, and have been all offseason, that Beane will be moving around this draft and will not end it with 10 players drafted. I have just felt that it was more likely to be after our first pick and Beane could even make more than one trade up in the draft. With the number of FA's we signed, everything has certainly changed. He signed about twice as many as I excepted. So now anything is possible and I think its a lock that at some point, maybe even more than once, Beane will be making upward moves to get a player. If I was to make a mock now...I think I would have the Bills stay at 9 but then make a move to get back into the first to grab another player. Maybe thats DK then Simmons. Or DT/EDGE then TJ/Fant. Or DT/EDGE then Harry/AJ Brown. So many ways this could play out. I agree, I think they stay at 9 (unless they get an incredulous offer) but trade up in spots after that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, familykwi said: Can't imagine why I'm being insulted for not knowing the guy, but thanks for clarifying that. Apparently I don't read sites he contributes to. What I have read indicates the cost of moving up, at the top of the draft in particular, does not usually result in a net gain. I also believe there is enough evidence to support the idea that the draft is an inexact science, so putting more eggs in a single basket to get a particular guy instead of identifying multiple guys is statistically unsound. Not every high pick is a stud and not every stud was a high pick. That's all I'm saying. I'd rather have multiple chances personally. I'd love to go back over the last 10 drafts for example and see how many trade up guys paid off vs trade down players. Julio was a hit and so far, so is Mahomes, but Watkins was a real miss. I wonder how it all actually shook out. It is not an insult to state more people know him than you. It is a fact and he is not only the AP reporter but has contributed to the wall for a while. I agree with you on general about moving up vs moving down expect in two circumstances: The player you want has specific skills which fit your scheme hard to find and may not be available You may not have space for slots so packaging up helps you from just not cutting your draft picks Personally I prefer to trade picks for extra picks following year. It gives you two things - accumulate number of picks and gives you picks during year to trade if a player becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Gotta be honest if it’s a third and nine to go 2-3 spots and get devin white sign me up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I'll suck some D to get Bosa and Hock Oh my.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Fake news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 If they identify either Nick Bosa, Quinnen Williams, or Josh Allen as a player that fits what they're looking for and are comfortable with the price tag - i'm willing to bet most of us will be too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Fake news! Florida is fake news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Beebe Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: We already have one... Everybody knows two is better than one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 The more I read this it makes me think he's talking about them trading back up into the first for either Hockenson or a top flight OL... I bet they stay put at 9 and take a DLineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) The more I think about it, the more I think I don’t want them trading their 2nd/3rd round pick just to move up a few spots in the first round for a non QB...The Bills are not 1 player away from contending for a super bowl imo...they are going to need another solid draft to build the core of the team. Edited March 29, 2019 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, john wawrow said: I’ve on occasion had a story or two linked on TwoBillsDrive. jw You stated that you usually don't posts opinions about the draft. That is in contrast to your copious thoughts on exotic beers. Your haughty sneering of the favored beers of the blue collar population that leans toward Miller and Bud is a an example how you set yourself apart in the upper balcony of the opera house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Josh Allen please. Gamechanger. 1 hour ago, familykwi said: Trading for Bennett was completely different. That roster did not have numerous holes. We've filled some, but not all holes in FA. I did blow a gasket at the "high end talent" Watkins trade. I'm also not in love with the trades up for both Allen and Johnson last year. What didn't you love about the trade up for Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, TPS said: This regime doesn’t let info like that leak. Meh. They literally let a picture of their QB board from last year get onto Twitter. Ben Albright knew for like 4 months that the Bills were all in on Allen. They're not infallible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 No T.J., no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: how a fine thread becomes so quickly tarnished. Thanks Virgil. Oh come on! That was just lobbed right in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 44 minutes ago, familykwi said: Heh. Sorry John. I live in San Diego. Where would I see your stuff? PK Sorry man that’s not gonna fly I live in Riverside and I know the John war roe is the ***** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Josh Allen please. We already have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Me posting this thread during a slow news time and then vanishing: I was only away from the computer for two hours, and this thing is already at 6 pages. Man, I love how crazy Bills fans are! ? 1 hour ago, john wawrow said: That warrow guy's a dope. jw He's alright. I mean he's no Paul Westerberg, but....few are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I just want the Bills to have a Josh Allen on the field for every play except special teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, eball said: I just want the Bills to have a Josh Allen on the field for every play except special teams. I mean....can we teach one of the Joshes to kick a ball? Having a Josh Allen in all three phases would really be ideal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Logic said: I mean....can we teach one of the Joshes to kick a ball? Having a Josh Allen in all three phases would really be ideal. That’s the ultimate goal, but it will take time. #BuffaloAllens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Nole Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I know he comes to the board from time to time and I respect that - but IF he has any “source” on this it is simply a plant to get other teams thinking - the days of the Bills leaking anything are over. I wouldn’t put any stock in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Logic said: Verrrrry interesting. In one of the comments below, someone asks him if thats just opinion or if he's actually heard anything. He replies that he doesn't really HAVE draft opinions. Take that for what you will... I wouldn’t be shocked if we went back but then up again with later picks. I think we come out with less players than we currently have picks but that could spin a lot of ways still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: Didn't that dude once say he would suck D to get Austin Proehl and Ray Ray McCloud? Probably Proehl yes, Ray Ray no, Brandon Reilly maybe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: I would be shocked if they moved up for Oliver. There is a strong chance he would be there at 9 and Wilkins certainly will be there at 9, and Oliver isnt that much better of a prospect than Wilkins. Simmons is better than both and can be had later too. Im guessing if Beane is willing to move up it will be to try and nab Quennin or Allen. Either would be a sick addition. How bad would this board melt down if the Beane traded up to get DK? LOL. This board hates trade ups for WR's hehe Word on the street (i.e., albert breer) is that some teams have oliver pegged significantly higher than the conventional mock draft wisdom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdamit Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 it is all about getting as many playmakers on the field as possible . If they love a player and can get up and get him for the cost of their second round pick then go for it. I wonder is Wonder is Williams or Bosa slip to 5. Maybe a second qb goes top 5 and somebody likes Allen more than Bosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Well he was right when he said "it would be amplified and parsed to mean just about anything." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, TPS said: This regime doesn’t let info like that leak. Is that a joke? The fact that we wanted Allen last year was one of the worst kept secrets in the history of the NFL Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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