Mark Long Beach Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I like the addition based on past results......but once you get past the top 3 CB's the other guys gotta' be really good on ST's...........so barring injury or EJ out playing one of White, Johnson and Wallace.........EJ better be prepared to go back to covering kicks and not sure his injury history will allow for that. Also don't see Kevin Johnson holding up on ST's and still being a viable CB option in event of injury. They will probably either crack the top 3 or not make it. For those wondering why the Bills are getting dibs on vets like Johnson and Gaines.......being able to play ST's is why teams usually don't employ older vets for the 4th or 5th CB spots. Excellent point, and it is a little risky. But the QUALITY is fantastic. It may be very much worth the loss of one special teams player to have a high quality corner since the players AND the position is notoriously fragile. It may mean that our depth for LB or safety is a little worse as we backfill those spots edged towards special teams. Tre EJ Levi Kevin Johnson Taron Johnson But honestly, Our top 5 CB are CRAZY good. I'll take it, I'll take it, I'll take it!! Edited March 25, 2019 by Mark Long Beach added top 5 names 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ryan Lewis....big CB: 4.37 40 6.87 3 cone Interested to see if he steps up in camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Wallace was really good in coverage but he was overpowered by contact at the NFL level...........interceptions ripped from his hands...........plowed over in the run game. Can't remember the game but after a particularly bad half of being manhandled he came out the next half and was throwing his body around hitting and after that he was clearly at least giving 100% effort in the physical aspect of the game...........but even so he is a very, very slender player so it's reasonable to question whether he has the build to hold up for every down play at the NFL level. Dude works though.........he is an inspiration.........I think it's good to have plenty of backup though. I feel like it was the Jacksonville game, but not 100% sure on that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeF said: Good news. Johnson will be available for half the games and Gaines for the other half. Seriously, EJ was really good when on the field. Ad long as it’s well planned it should work! They better never both be on the field at the same time... they’ll collide and shatter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, Bills92 said: But Does anybody else think that Beane may be building up the secondary in order to trade Tre White No. When you find lock down corners, you don't trade them. Especially when they're still on their first contract... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Love EJ! This makes me so happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You know what would be the most Bills-y thing ever? Gaines and Johnson colliding during training camp and concussing each other... Like KellyToTasker said " take that voodoo back man, take it back!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Great move for us and for him. He needs to stick with McDermott because it's the right fit for his abilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Ryan Lewis....big CB: 4.37 40 6.87 3 cone Interested to see if he steps up in camp Lewis started a handful of games for us last year, right? If memory serves me he played pretty well and the disappeared... he got a lot of hype. He was like the Levi Wallace before Levi Wallace last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Lewis started a handful of games for us last year, right? If memory serves me he played pretty well and the disappeared... he got a lot of hype. He was like the Levi Wallace before Levi Wallace last season. https://buffalonews.com/2018/09/25/from-thrift-shop-to-starter-cb-ryan-lewis-shines-in-first-bills-start/ Ha, I found it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Great move for us and for him. He needs to stick with McDermott because it's the right fit for his abilities. Why didn't they bring him back last year? Even after they signed Vontae Davis they still had plenty of $ to pay Gaines for the pittance he signed for in Cleveland. Didn't end up mattering as it was a lost season due to the offense.........but it seemed a strange turn of events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, GreggTX said: There is no unit on this team that is below average right now except QB and DL. We are in a perfect position to just go BPA. That said, I'd like a beast to replace Kyle and another OL as well as Lo's replacement and a good pass rusher, but we can just let it fall to us. WR and TE are big ‘?’ Still RB is below average in terms of youthful energy. Irrespective of that Beane’s MOis clear. Fill the roster holes with value players on team friendly deals. BPA in draft and if you like a player and can get there in an affordable manner, get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, TPS said: Yes, it was a subtle suggestion that Beane is one smart dude. ? I'm with ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Why didn't they bring him back last year? Even after they signed Vontae Davis they still had plenty of $ to pay Gaines for the pittance he signed for in Cleveland. Didn't end up mattering as it was a lost season due to the offense.........but it seemed a strange turn of events. I feel like he probably wanted too much money. We moved on and he had to settle for way less than he thought he would get. Now he's getting less again. I put that on him, so when he's ready to cash in after another awesome year this year, he needs to think about that imo. But great fit all around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Wallace was really good in coverage but he was overpowered by contact at the NFL level...........interceptions ripped from his hands...........plowed over in the run game. Can't remember the game but after a particularly bad half of being manhandled he came out the next half and was throwing his body around hitting and after that he was clearly at least giving 100% effort in the physical aspect of the game...........but even so he is a very, very slender player so it's reasonable to question whether he has the build to hold up for every down play at the NFL level. Dude works though.........he is an inspiration.........I think it's good to have plenty of backup though. At least adding muscle/strength isn't something he can't achieve. Even if he doesn't retain the starting gig he's great depth. 39 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Having four good corners for the D is some sort of a minimum anyhow. I was hoping EJ Gaines might come back as he was good in this D. He will have a head start over Johnson, as he already has a year in this D. In fact, having even 5 corners is not a bad idea. Their secondary remains the strongest unit on the team, probably. Tre' White and Taron Johnson are probably penciled in to start with Kevin Johnson, Levi Wallace, and EJ Gaines vying for the other starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Lewis started a handful of games for us last year, right? If memory serves me he played pretty well and the disappeared... he got a lot of hype. He was like the Levi Wallace before Levi Wallace last season. ..no need to risk him in December............ Buffalo Bills cornerback Ryan Lewis exits game with head injury The Bills are now working with just four healthy corners By Dylan Zadonowicz@DylanZadonowicz Dec 9, 2018, 2:30pm EST Buffalo Bills cornerback, Ryan Lewis, exited the game in the second quarter and is now being evaluated for a head injury. Buffalo is down to four cornerbacks once again, but near the end of the first half, Lewis reappeared on the sideline with his helmet in his hand. Lewis is the third corner on the roster now with rookie Taron Johnson out with a shoulder injury. Over the course of the season, Lewis and Levi Wallace have traded chances as the starting corner on the opposite side of Tre’Davious White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Why didn’t they sign him last year? They obviously like him. I don’t understand not just keeping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, chris heff said: Why didn’t they sign him last year? They obviously like him. I don’t understand not just keeping him. Money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Gaines when healthy was our best cornerback 2 years ago. Plays the run physical. 2 years ago when he was on the field the defense had a confidence boost. This is a phenomenal sighing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2017 Season W/L Records (opposition strength was almost the same) With EJ Gaines 8-3 Without EJ Gaines 1-4 Nuff said! He did appear to burn some bridges on his way out - but clearly that was not the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Love this signing. We now potentially have five viable corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I like this. Our team from top to bottom Is nothing but B+ players. Thats how philly won their Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Will make it very tough on QBs to find someone open. Need to find some serious pass rush and we can make life miserable for this 'passing league'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 To state what is somewhat obvious, I believe this is also an indictment of the CB class this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custcarcen Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: You will hate me for this but I don’t think it means they won’t draft one. Maybe not in round 1, but this is a one year deal. I wouldn't be surprised if they trade back up for Rock Ya Sin. Temple. Perfect Zone CB and I believe a wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: You will hate me for this but I don’t think it means they won’t draft one. Maybe not in round 1, but this is a one year deal. Agree completely. I see it in rounds 5-7 at this stage given the quality of the class (unless someone like a Rock Ya-Sin slides) and the fact that it seems the sweet spot is in this range in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, chris heff said: Why didn’t they sign him last year? They obviously like him. I don’t understand not just keeping him. He signed for about 9 mil I think last year. We didn’t have that space iirc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So many injury prone corners so little time JK welcome back EJ Old running backs and fragile corners. Maybe that’s the slogan for the 2019 Bills marketing campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I LOVED watching EJ play! He worked so well in concert with our other secondary members. I was very disappointed we didn't get to keep him last year. Even if he's only on the field 2/3s of the time, we are very, very solid when he's back there. Not only that, but we have QUALITY CB depth and a lot of it! Why would we not like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Wallace is the incumbent starter. But they will have to compete. Wallace only faced one big WR in those last 7 games - Kenny Galloday from Lions who caught 7/8 passes thrown his way for 146 yds. With us playing CLE, PIT, CIN, PHL the level of WRs will be much better than last end of last season NYJ, MIA, NE) . Wallace also gave up the play to Moncrief at goal line vs JAGS that preceded the Fournette / Lawson throwdown. OBD may be worried about him vs big-time talent WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) There was a nasty rumor in town that nobody wants to play for Buffalo?? We need a bigger locker room. Edited March 25, 2019 by HOUSE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Awesome. EJ was solid and when he was on the field the secondary played much better. Welcome back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Nice move. Levi, Taron, and EJ can compete for CB#2,3,and 4. Also decreases the likelihood they use a top 4 draft pick on a DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Maybe add a DB with a 6th or 7th pick and/or an UDFA and they are ready for camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Nice move. Levi, Taron, and EJ can compete for CB#2,3,and 4. Also decreases the likelihood they use a top 4 draft pick on a DB They seem to have built a roster as if the draft didn’t exist, so they can do anything 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Nice move. Levi, Taron, and EJ can compete for CB#2,3,and 4. Also decreases the likelihood they use a top 4 draft pick on a DB I agree, although remember EJ & Kevin Johnson are on 1 year deals, so we have fantastic depth for this year, but no depth guarantees for longer. So we'll always need a pipeline of some kind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: Man how can you not love this off-season so far. Can't wait for the draft, I have all the confidence in the world in this front office. Go Bills, have a great Monday everyone. With the free agent signings, more & more I think Beane is thinking LB in the 1st round. Devon White would look good playing with his Buddy Trevarious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 We will have an interesting camp and exhibition season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 hopefully, it means we will not be using a 1 or 2, or 3, pick, on a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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