White Linen Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 My prediction is he gets hurt from camp to the first 2 weeks of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He’s not a passer. Just like Tyrod Taylor. If you make Lamar actually play QB he’s not effective. Look what the Chargers did to him in the playoffs. I guess he could work in a heavy RPO offense similar to what RG3 ran in Washington.... I wouldn’t hitch my wagon to Lamar Jackson, JMO. Yup. And guys like that will always win some games, but sooner or later you need to throw the ball downfield to win a key game. If Taylor had the ability to do that, he'd still be the Bills QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_D Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, The Senator said: Those should be great games. BTW, we play the Ravens at home this season. . Maybe even the home opener. Looking at last year's opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, vincec said: Roman's scheme, Lamar Jackson plus Bell = #1 rushing team in the league. But I'm not sure he's going there, luckily. Again, Bell need's a very good to elite OL like Pittsburgh, he waits for the hole to open up before he hits it (That's what she said). I don't think bell is a good fit for that offense imo of course and Lamar Jackson now has a good deal of tape on him and how to play him. Maybe he'll still run all over defenses but the good teams will most likely at least have some ssort of an answer for him. Don't get me wrong Bell will be awesome no matter where he goes because of his dual threat capability but will be most effective with a top notch OL due to his running style, the Jets and Ravens don't have that type of OL imo but that doesn't mean they can't upgrade those positions in the draft or FA. Edited March 11, 2019 by BuffaloBillsGospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, GymShorts84 said: That defense was very good. 75 passing yards per game and 12 fumbles, I don’t see an upside. But what about the rushing yards? 147 rushes for 695 yards Josh Allen 89 rushes for 631 yards I like Josh Allen more too. I also wouldn't cut bait on a rookie QB with a 6-2 record and playoff berth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Bell is a great all around back but he needs a dominant offensive line which the Ravens don't have imo. He waits to hit the holes, much like Brown his best bet is the Steelers or Cowboys both of which don't need his services. Thank you. I’ve been saying this for over a year now. We’ll see how he performs when he doesn’t have a top 3 line giving him a full second to pick a hole or a top 5 pass game to back defenses off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Jackson needs an elite RB to take the pressure off of him. This would be a good move for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Good move for Baltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: The rumor is Moseley to AZ wow. taking Bell over Mosley is crazy. Bell will disappoint. His waiting to hit the hole running style won’t work everywhere. Plus he has been away from FB for a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Bell without a great line is......Shady? They already have their running game, but he plays QB. Can Bell throw the ball when Jackson gets broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He’s not a passer. Just like Tyrod Taylor. If you make Lamar actually play QB he’s not effective. Look what the Chargers did to him in the playoffs. I guess he could work in a heavy RPO offense similar to what RG3 ran in Washington.... I wouldn’t hitch my wagon to Lamar Jackson, JMO. He has trouble learning an offense. If they keep the same offense for a while he could be dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 hours ago, vorpma said: No way, the NFL experts on TBD say he is going to the Raiders! This is what all the Raider fans I know are talking about. I hope he does go to Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He’s not a passer. Just like Tyrod Taylor. If you make Lamar actually play QB he’s not effective. Look what the Chargers did to him in the playoffs. I guess he could work in a heavy RPO offense similar to what RG3 ran in Washington.... I wouldn’t hitch my wagon to Lamar Jackson, JMO. gotta be able to throw it in today's NFL. LJ doesn't throw it well enough IMHO. that fact will come out in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Does this mean that they’re pretty confident that LJ is their dude, and therefore, can absorb Bell’s ridiculous deal because they’ll have a starting QB still under his rookie deal for 4 years? Well they’re getting rid of Flacco’s $20M+ deal also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Well they’re getting rid of Flacco’s $20M+ deal also My post was less about cap space than it was about quality of QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, FLFan said: Master of his craft? Seriously? Master at whining, self agrandisement, and greed is more like it. The last year he played he missed time to injury. Chances are exponentially greater now. He is going to get paid and be a footnote. Just my opinion of course, but I do not share your respect for Bell's dedication to craft. When did he whine or show some overpowering selfish ego.. It's not a new concept in professional sports to seek a new contract in the Free Agent market. Kept his mouth shut and sought out more guaranteed second contract as all runningbacks with limited shelf life absolutely need to get. They get 1 great contract after their rookie deal typically. These guys play for money. If Bell's greedy for being a professional football player, everybody is greedy lol. If you think his injury risk is "exponentially greater now" and he's garbage at RB then he's best served getting FA $$$, for his past performance.. (over-performing his rookie contract by a MILE), from 29 teams that do not share your opinion right? Maybe his body will break down, he won't do well outside the Steelers offense, and "get paid and be a footnote", but that's an unfair assessment on his character IMO. Edited March 11, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Makes a ton of sense! I like that. Makes the Ravens running game a 2 headed monster. Helps cover Lamar's weaknesses passing having the best league check down option. AND BELL GETS TO EAT THE STEELERS DEFENSE IN DIVISION NEXT YEAR. That makes for a fun narrative. I'm all for it Agreee. This wud be awesome to watch. Especially with greg Romans runplay designs. That my friends is good booking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Latest rumor is Jets https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jets-seen-as-favorites-to-land-leveon-bell/ar-BBUCy3W?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ACERDHP17 Regarding Bells dependency on a line. His is less than Shady's (by like 1000x, now that McCoy is old and broken down) . Bells effectiveness has a receiver is also pretty independent of the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Latest rumor is Jets https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jets-seen-as-favorites-to-land-leveon-bell/ar-BBUCy3W?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ACERDHP17 Regarding Bells dependency on a line. His is less than Shady's (by like 1000x, now that McCoy is old and broken down) . Bells effectiveness has a receiver is also pretty independent of the line. I think a Gase-Bell match is interesting, because they are both ego maniacs. Should be a great fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Latest rumor is Jets https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jets-seen-as-favorites-to-land-leveon-bell/ar-BBUCy3W?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ACERDHP17 Regarding Bells dependency on a line. His is less than Shady's (by like 1000x, now that McCoy is old and broken down) . Bells effectiveness has a receiver is also pretty independent of the line. It's a bit early to pull the plug on Mr. McCoy. Let's see how the OL shapes up and how Shady looks when they report. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Hindsight Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 hours ago, BillsSB2020 said: He started 7 games and threw for 1200 yards. That's 171/game. He played a few snaps in each of the other games, but nothing substantial. He wasn't a prolific passer, but that number is incredibly misleading. So he's Tyrod Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, eball said: It's a bit early to pull the plug on Mr. McCoy. Let's see how the OL shapes up and how Shady looks when they report. I think Shady can bounce back too. He's getting a little too much flak for an offense that couldn't run with anybody carrying the ball. I also would like him splitting snaps in a 50/50 role or even less, but I'm not hung up on going out of our way to find that other guy that would get more carries. Go after OL and take a late round flyer RB or just get a backup FA or trade RB that's not friggin Chris Ivory old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I think Shady can bounce back too. He's getting a little too much flak for an offense that couldn't run with anybody carrying the ball. I also would like him splitting snaps in a 50/50 role or even less, but I'm not hung up on going out of our way to find that other guy that would get more carries. Go after OL and take a late round flyer RB or just get a backup FA or trade RB that's not friggin Chris Ivory old. They definitely need to draft a RB, but I think Shady/Ivory will be productive if the OL is fixed. I'd like to see them draft one in the 4th or 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, eball said: They definitely need to draft a RB, but I think Shady/Ivory will be productive if the OL is fixed. I'd like to see them draft one in the 4th or 5th. I used to like Murphy. Not so much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 My money is on the Eagles with Bell. For Wentz’s sake, they need to win next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: My money is on the Eagles with Bell. For Wentz’s sake, they need to win next year. Eagles, Packers, Colts.. All teams with passing attacks that need a running threat to be especially dangerous. And we say RBs are a dime a dozen.. they really aren't for a lot of teams. Ya gotta draft them well. Bills fans might feel that way after Travis Henry, Willis McGahee, Marshawn Lynch, FredEx, Spiller, McCoy, Karlos, Gillislee. We've just invested a crapload of draft picks at the position lol. Packers just don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Consider the source: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 ..thought I read where he said he'd "love to play for the Colts"......could EASILY catch Irsay at a weak moment with the check book and cash in the glove compartment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: So he's Tyrod Taylor? Allen wasn't any better as a passer my friend. I like Allen quite a bit more and LJ had better weapons, but let's not get carried away with the LJ hate. He's not the Bills QB so I don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Hindsight Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: Allen wasn't any better as a passer my friend. I like Allen quite a bit more and LJ had better weapons, but let's not get carried away with the LJ hate. He's not the Bills QB so I don't really care. Josh Allen's last 5 starts he averaged 216.4 ypg passing 1.4 passing TDs 75.4 yards rushing .8 rushing tds So 291 total yards per game and 2.2 TDs per game Lamar Jackson last 5 starts (not counting the playoff game) 157.2 ypg passing .8 passing TDs/ game 73.2 ypg rushing .6 rushing tds/game So 230.4 total yards per game 1.4 Tds per game Over a 16 game season: Josh Allen 3462 yards passing 22 passing Tds 1206.4 yards rushing 12.8 (13) rushing TDs 4668 total yards and 35 TDs Lamar Jackson 2,515 yards passing 12.8 (13) Passing TDs 1,171 yards rushing 9.6 (10) Rushing TDs 3,686 total yards 23 TDs Only 1,000 yards and 12 Tds difference over 16 games. That's 100 first down and 72 points. For reference, here is Tyrod's thrid year starting stats over 15 games 2,799 yards passing 14 TD 427 yards rushing 4 TD 3,226 total yards and 18 TDs Allen needs a ton of work, but I'm real sick of hearing the media talk about how polished LJ is and how Allen cant hit the broadside of a barn. Its lazy and flat out wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..thought I read where he said he'd "love to play for the Colts"......could EASILY catch Irsay at a weak moment with the check book and cash in the glove compartment.... Actually, the Colts don’t tend to hand out huge FA deals since Ballard got there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Actually, the Colts don’t tend to hand out huge FA deals since Ballard got there ...yup...BUT......Irsay can always be the unpredictable wild, WILD card, right??.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Actually, the Colts don’t tend to hand out huge FA deals since Ballard got there Yeah, and they have future stud Marlon Mack who is primed for a large season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I’m still hoping the Bills are stealthy in on Bell. 85 receptions for 655 yards in 2017. To go along with 1300 rushing yards. 11 total TD’s. Give him 15 million. Cut Shady and Gore and it’s like your paying Bell 6 million a year. Yeah, I’ll take Bell for 6 million more than Gore and McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Josh Allen's last 5 starts he averaged 216.4 ypg passing 1.4 passing TDs 75.4 yards rushing .8 rushing tds So 291 total yards per game and 2.2 TDs per game Lamar Jackson last 5 starts (not counting the playoff game) 157.2 ypg passing .8 passing TDs/ game 73.2 ypg rushing .6 rushing tds/game So 230.4 total yards per game 1.4 Tds per game Over a 16 game season: Josh Allen 3462 yards passing 22 passing Tds 1206.4 yards rushing 12.8 (13) rushing TDs 4668 total yards and 35 TDs Lamar Jackson 2,515 yards passing 12.8 (13) Passing TDs 1,171 yards rushing 9.6 (10) Rushing TDs 3,686 total yards 23 TDs Only 1,000 yards and 12 Tds difference over 16 games. That's 100 first down and 72 points. For reference, here is Tyrod's thrid year starting stats over 15 games 2,799 yards passing 14 TD 427 yards rushing 4 TD 3,226 total yards and 18 TDs Allen needs a ton of work, but I'm real sick of hearing the media talk about how polished LJ is and how Allen cant hit the broadside of a barn. Its lazy and flat out wrong LJ is credited with turning a lost season into a playoff appearance. He’s earned it, his career is off to a better start in nearly every category... it means nothing about the future, in my view, but Jackson indisputably had a better year, while keeping a Super Bowl mvp on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: LJ is credited with turning a lost season into a playoff appearance. He’s earned it, his career is off to a better start in nearly every category... it means nothing about the future, in my view, but Jackson indisputably had a better year, while keeping a Super Bowl mvp on the bench Did he though? I posted his stats compared to our own rookie and the guy who apparently was terrible had better stats, more TDs, more YPG on a worse team Jackson should get credit, but he was far from the biggest reason they made the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 3/10/2019 at 5:01 PM, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: He was bad in the playoffs and made me look like a jackwagon. But I happened to randomly catch some Ravens games where he was dominant. Passing was always iffy but much better than what people give him credit for. Chargers game felt like nothing he showed he can do from the regular season was there. He makes much better decisions/passes than he did that game. I'd look for a contingency plan no doubt. But as of now, you really can't just move on from a rookie QB going 6-2. And I don't think an L Bell signing says much about Lamar Jackson anyway. He'll make LJ look better. They would have a really unique offense. But LJ could still ultimately fail and they can still find a QB if they want to move on next year or 2 with Bell still under contract. Bell and LJ with a great defense looks great on paper to me. Jackson's biggest negative has always been turnovers. He was quite adapt at turning the ball over in college and seems to have taken that trait with him to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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