Bills have interest in Seattle DE Frank Clark

[BADOLBILZ]

30 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

They don't even do that right. Next time I hope they refrain from handpicking the coach.

 

 

It's hard to respect a hiring process that starts out with them throwing full support behind their GM that they've known for 3 years and declaring that he will lead the hiring process this time..........and then a few days after interviewing McDermott they basically decide to kick Whaley to the curb.

 

The kicker was after The Pegs previously hand picked the hedonistic Rex the first thing out of TPegs mouth at the hiring of McD was about how Sean was a "man of faith".  

 

I think the Farrelly and Coen brothers could both do justice to the script.    

 

The Pegs are well intentioned but totally blowing in the wind with regard to football ops.....they literally have no idea what they are doing and we are probably just going to have to hope they get lucky like when Ralph accidentally lucked into Bill Polian.   

 

Maybe Sean and Beane actually start living up to the processed hype this year!   We can hope!

[DefenseWins]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/10/report-bills-have-no-interest-in-frank-clark/

 

[whatdrought]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/19157491

 

funny how buzzwords like culture and character go out the window when your job is on the line. 

 

I get your point, but the issue with it that I see is that building culture does not preclude guys with dark pasts- it mandates having an established culture in place before bringing in the question marks. My understanding is that they're trying to build a nucleus of leadership that buys in and will hold other guys accountable to the culture. 

 

2 minutes ago, DefenseWins said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/10/report-bills-have-no-interest-in-frank-clark/

 

 

Meh, could be, could not be. I don't much care for Vic and the reality is that no reporter should be saying  "they have no interest. Period" that's a dumb take. His sources have been wrong before, and he's seen plenty of times where teams interest levels change quickly. I also question anyone who answers people on twitter like that.

Edited March 10, 2019 by whatdrought

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

I get your point, but the issue with it that I see is that building culture does not preclude guys with dark pasts- it mandates having an established culture in place before bringing in the question marks. My understanding is that they're trying to build a nucleus of leadership that buys in and will hold other guys accountable to the culture. 

 

 

Stop making logical sense when there's so much emoting left to do

 

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Stop making logical sense when there's so much emoting left to do

 

 

Sorry. I will go and get my fire Beane sign ready. I was thinking instead of writing it out I might put "Fire" and then a picture of a real bean... Just to be edgy. Thoughts? 

 

 

Edit: but now I just want fire bean chili... 

Edited March 10, 2019 by whatdrought

[BillsSB2020]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

I get your point, but the issue with it that I see is that building culture does not preclude guys with dark pasts- it mandates having an established culture in place before bringing in the question marks.

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I believe every team needs a few dirtbags. This is a little different than a guy with a dark past as a football "dirtbag" doesn't necessarily have to have off the field issues. Just so happens that they often do. Look at Cogs; tons of off the field issues but he brought a certain swagger/toughness to the offensive line. I believe we need more of that.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Sorry. I will go and get my fire Beane sign ready. I was thinking instead of writing it out I might put "Fire" and then a picture of a real bean... Just to be edgy. Thoughts? 

 

 

Edit: but now I just want fire bean chili... 

 

Dude. Yes.

 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

52 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It's hard to respect a hiring process that starts out with them throwing full support behind their GM that they've known for 3 years and declaring that he will lead the hiring process this time..........and then a few days after interviewing McDermott they basically decide to kick Whaley to the curb.

 

The kicker was after The Pegs previously hand picked the hedonistic Rex the first thing out of TPegs mouth at the hiring of McD was about how Sean was a "man of faith".  

 

I think the Farrelly and Coen brothers could both do justice to the script.    

 

The Pegs are well intentioned but totally blowing in the wind with regard to football ops.....they literally have no idea what they are doing and we are probably just going to have to hope they get lucky like when Ralph accidentally lucked into Bill Polian.   

 

Maybe Sean and Beane actually start living up to the processed hype this year!   We can hope!

If this doesn't work out surely the Pegulas will learn from it, they wouldn't handpick a third coach... 

 

I have no shortage of hope for either Derm or Beane, they're both smart guys and I was so glad to see them in on Brown! 

 

And apologies to our friend C.Biscuit but I love me some Brian Daboll. This guy went away from what he ideally wants to do in the passing game, adjusted to what Joshy Boy does well and put up 24 ppg and 360(?) ypg over like 8 weeks with a greenhorn QB and a bunch of ***t players. I'm glad he's a WNY guy and we were able to get him.

 

Careful with that processed hype though I hear it can give you cancer Bad Guy

[BADOLBILZ]

17 minutes ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said:

If this doesn't work out surely the Pegulas will learn from it, they wouldn't handpick a third coach... 

 

I have no shortage of hope for either Derm or Beane, they're both smart guys and I was so glad to see them in on Brown! 

 

And apologies to our friend C.Biscuit but I love me some Brian Daboll. This guy went away from what he ideally wants to do in the passing game, adjusted to what Joshy Boy does well and put up 24 ppg and 360(?) ypg over like 8 weeks with a greenhorn QB and a bunch of ***t players. I'm glad he's a WNY guy and we were able to get him.

 

Careful with that processed hype though I hear it can give you cancer Bad Guy

 

 

Trust but verify the process.

 

[Franchiseneedsme]

Seen on Facebook something new is happening here. This would be a huge trade and sign for the Bill's. Anyone else see this?

[NickelCity]

11 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

Seen on Facebook something new is happening here. This would be a huge trade and sign for the Bill's. Anyone else see this?

 

F5?

[Not at the table Karlos]

15 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

Seen on Facebook something new is happening here. This would be a huge trade and sign for the Bill's. Anyone else see this?

Saw that hes still on block and bills were interested a few weeks ago and still could be interested. Nothing really new. But id be cool with trading a 2nd for him. Prob take more 

Edited April 11, 2019 by Not at the table Karlos

[NickelCity]

Just now, Not at the table Karlos said:

Saw that hes still on block and bills were interested a few weeks ago and still could be interested. Nothing really new. But id be cool with trading a 2nd for him. 

 

Without a doubt.

[Alphadawg7]

https://thebuffalofanatics.com/2019/04/11/rumor-frank-clark-on-the-trading-block/

[JoPar_v2]

On 3/8/2019 at 4:30 PM, FluffHead said:

Another less than ideal character drawing interest from McBeane, per Jay Glazer 

 

@JayGlazer: Well, Dan Morgan worked in Seattle and is close to John Schneider. There’s interest around Frank Clark from them and others RT @swailes_robert: @JayGlazer Now there are three guys I'd be happy for the Bills to go after.

 

@JayGlazer: Lost in all the talk of Antonio Brown trade talk is the fact that there’s been a lot of chatter among teams looking to trade for premium pass rusher such as Clowney, Frank Clark, Dee Ford.

 

How old is the second tweet? Because didn’t Dee Ford already change teams weeks ago?

[Alphadawg7]

45 minutes ago, Franchiseneedsme said:

Seen on Facebook something new is happening here. This would be a huge trade and sign for the Bill's. Anyone else see this?

 

Link?  See what?

[Laughing Coffin]

Could an option possibly be that we trade down from 9 and pick up something in the 20s + a 2nd and 4th, then we trade that 1st round pick in the 20s for Frank Clark straight up

[mrags]

6 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said:

Could an option possibly be that we trade down from 9 and pick up something in the 20s + a 2nd and 4th, then we trade that 1st round pick in the 20s for Frank Clark straight up

Probably a shot to trade a 2nd for him. The Seahawks are cap strapped right now. It would be similar to McD trading away Dareus 

[HappyDays]

We know they were in on Mack. Clark would be an incredible consolation prize. I would think a 1st would be the price but I'd be all for it.

[Not at the table Karlos]

24 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

 

How old is the second tweet? Because didn’t Dee Ford already change teams weeks ago?

Around the time AB was traded. The post you quoted was a month old

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

an Rapoport

 

✔ @RapSheet

 

 

The 5-year, more than $100M deal for #Cowboys pass-rusher DeMarcus Lawrence is good news for #Seahawks DE Frank Clark and #Texans edge Jadeveon Clowney. It almost certainly sets their market above $20M per year.

 

1,474

6:49 PM - Apr 5, 2019

[LikeIGiveADarn]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

an Rapoport

 

✔ @RapSheet

 

 

The 5-year, more than $100M deal for #Cowboys pass-rusher DeMarcus Lawrence is good news for #Seahawks DE Frank Clark and #Texans edge Jadeveon Clowney. It almost certainly sets their market above $20M per year.

 

1,474

6:49 PM - Apr 5, 2019

 

Gotta take advantage of that rookie QB contract.

[billsherd]

Just now, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

Gotta take advantage of that rookie QB contract.

Is he that good? I am asking because I don't follow Seattle that closely. 

[LikeIGiveADarn]

3 minutes ago, billsherd said:

Is he that good? I am asking because I don't follow Seattle that closely. 

 

35 sacks in 4 years in the league. Appears to be a step below Mack, but a step above Hughes.

[NewEra]

6 minutes ago, billsherd said:

Is he that good? I am asking because I don't follow Seattle that closely. 

20 mill a year good?  I don’t think so, especially considering we’d have to give up picks as well.  Maybe as a free agent.  Very good pass rusher......just a bit too rich for my tastes

[billsfan89]

4 minutes ago, billsherd said:

Is he that good? I am asking because I don't follow Seattle that closely. 

 

27 minutes ago, NewEra said:

20 mill a year good?  I don’t think so, especially considering we’d have to give up picks as well.  Maybe as a free agent.  Very good pass rusher......just a bit too rich for my tastes

 

32 sacks the past three seasons. He is also a former second-round pick in 2015. He is also turning 26 in June. I am normally opposed to trading a premium pick/s for a player who you have to then hand out a big contract extension for but I think that the Bills need to strike while the iron is hot and make their version of a Mack trade. 

 

I would definitely trade a 4th in 2019 and a 1st in 2020 for Clark and a 4th in 2020. The Bills can afford it cap wise and Clark would instantly anchor the pass rush for the next 4-6 years. Now I also wouldn't give him a 20 million dollar a year deal. If he can be had for around 18 million aav that would make sense. 

 

Clark and Ed Oliver or another pass rusher at pick 9 would make this D-line super dynamic and deep. The Bills could then still add a pass catcher and other offensive needs in round 2 and 3 which should help Josh Allen some more. 

 

He isn't worth 20 million a year, not among the top 5 pass rushers in the league but not that far off either. 

[GreggTX]

If this happens, Murphy and Shaq are gone. At least Shaq will be . We just added another pass rusher and resigned Yarborough. Clark's price may be too high, but if we throw in Murphy or Shaq to the deal, he might not be too expensive. I also think a post draft signing of Suh is unlikely, but not impossible if we don't go DT in round 1 or 2.

[BillsFan1988]

3 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said:

Could an option possibly be that we trade down from 9 and pick up something in the 20s + a 2nd and 4th, then we trade that 1st round pick in the 20s for Frank Clark straight up

Also very possible it's the Cordy type deal where we just swap firsts.  We get #21 they get #9. 

 

If I was Beane I would just wait till after the draft. If we get Oliver @ #9 then offer the Seahawks a 2nd in 2020. 

Edited April 11, 2019 by BillsFan1988

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

20 mill a year good?  I don’t think so, especially considering we’d have to give up picks as well.  Maybe as a free agent.  Very good pass rusher......just a bit too rich for my tastes

 

....yup...trading for him would be a one year rental at $17+ mil, unless you worked out a deal which would still be close to $20 mil/yr......a bit too rich for McBeane IMO.........

 

 

Frank Clark signed a 1 year, $17,128,000 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including an average annual salary of $17,128,000. In 2019, Clark will earn a base salary of $17,128,000, while carrying a cap hit of $17,128,000.

[GimmeSomeProcess]

Seeing that the Seahawks are low on picks I’d think a swap of 1st and giving up 2 or 3 should do it. I’d jump on this in a heart. He’s well worth the money, D law got a 100 million and had one less sack with one more year of playing. 

[billsredneck1]

at some point we are going to have to pony up if we want pro bowlers and difference makers on this team. i would hope....trade them shaq / a 4th and a 2020 2nd.

 

maybe they can sign him to a 4, most likely have to be 5 yr. deal at 18-20mil per and pay big bonus upfront to lessen the blow over the contract.

 

clark and oliver?   that would automatically allow hughes to get back to double digits also. sounds good to me

[MrEpsYtown]

2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....yup...trading for him would be a one year rental at $17+ mil, unless you worked out a deal which would still be close to $20 mil/yr......a bit too rich for McBeane IMO.........

 

 

Frank Clark signed a 1 year, $17,128,000 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including an average annual salary of $17,128,000. In 2019, Clark will earn a base salary of $17,128,000, while carrying a cap hit of $17,128,000.

 

I don't think he signed the franchise tender, and it is the non exclusive tag, so he is technically still a free agent. So he can still negotiate a new contract with any team while that team and the Seakhawks negotiate compensation. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

44 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I don't think he signed the franchise tender, and it is the non exclusive tag, so he is technically still a free agent. So he can still negotiate a new contract with any team while that team and the Seakhawks negotiate compensation. 

 

...thanks for clarification........

[JaCrispy]

This will be a draft day trade ?

[YoloinOhio]

11 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

This will be a draft day trade ?

I think so too. He’s definitely going somewhere 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

Paying the refs more than Bobby Kraft does would automatically allow hughes to get back to double digits also. sounds good to me

 

There... I fixed it for you.

[PIZ]

Could the Bills just keep the #9.  Maybe they could trade down with someone else to pick up another Round 2 or Round 3 pick.

 

To get Clark from the Seahawks could they swap their 2nd, 3rd, and their first 4th?  I can't see a 1st round pick being involved in the trade, considering what these other trades in the offseason netted.

 

• Round 1, No. 9.
• Round 2, No. 40.
• Round 3, No. 74.
• Round 4, No. 112.
• Round 4, No. 131 (via Kansas City Chiefs).
• Round 5, No. 147.
• Round 5, No. 158 (via Oakland Raiders).
• Round 6, No. 181.
• Round 7, No. 225.
• Round 7, No. 228 (via Carolina Panthers).

[Mat68]

This was back before the start of FA.  Glazer isnt looking for clicks or likes.  He was months ahead on Beckham being traded as well.  Imo, Buffalo has 1 or 2 guys they want. If they are gone I think they trade down for a vetran.

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

This was back before the start of FA.  Glazer isnt looking for clicks or likes.  He was months ahead on Beckham being traded as well.  Imo, Buffalo has 1 or 2 guys they want. If they are gone I think they trade down for a vetran.

“Reading the tea leaves” I think you are right. It’s no secret that they are in the market for a high end pass rusher and a high end 3 tech. Imo they may have only two pass rushers in the draft with a top 10 grade (Bosa/Allen) and assuming they are both gone at 9 they will make some kind of move. I do think a 3 tech will be drafted - if not Oliver, Jerry Tillery if a trade down or at 40

Edited April 11, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[NewEra]

8 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

 

 

32 sacks the past three seasons. He is also a former second-round pick in 2015. He is also turning 26 in June. I am normally opposed to trading a premium pick/s for a player who you have to then hand out a big contract extension for but I think that the Bills need to strike while the iron is hot and make their version of a Mack trade. 

 

I would definitely trade a 4th in 2019 and a 1st in 2020 for Clark and a 4th in 2020. The Bills can afford it cap wise and Clark would instantly anchor the pass rush for the next 4-6 years. Now I also wouldn't give him a 20 million dollar a year deal. If he can be had for around 18 million aav that would make sense. 

 

Clark and Ed Oliver or another pass rusher at pick 9 would make this D-line super dynamic and deep. The Bills could then still add a pass catcher and other offensive needs in round 2 and 3 which should help Josh Allen some more. 

 

He isn't worth 20 million a year, not among the top 5 pass rushers in the league but not that far off either. 

A first?  Lol.  Oh man.  That’s just crazy.

 

edit: he’s a great player.  If he was on the market, I’d pay him 20 mill a year.  Giving up a 1st AND paying 20 mill a year is just a lot of eggs in one basket.  It would make our d better for sure, but 1st rd picks are just too valuable.  Having a pro bowl talent under control for 5-6 years is too big in today’s league.

Edited April 11, 2019 by NewEra