Bob in STL Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, nucci said: up until this past season, his behavior was fine....he was the best WR in the league Last year counts. His talent is not in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I had a feeling they were going to swing for the fences on trading for a proven WR. I don’t think this will be the last one we see them pursue. It clearly looks like that. I could see them turning their attention to Julio or AJ Green. I think that the cost in either of them is much higher though. Would a swap of 1sts and our 2nd round pick get a deal done for Julio? On the old draft value chart that’s the equivalent of pick 24. In the new draft value chart that is somewhere between picks 28-29. The question is would the equivalent of a late 1st get it done? I’m not sure that those teams are that motivated to get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, ExWNYer said: Nothing ventured, nothing gained. I didn't think there was anyway that the Bills would be in on AB and I wasn't initially thrilled with acquiring a 31 year old WR but I got caught up in the moment like a lot of other people and it would have been a good acquisition, depending on the compensation. It's not "eternal optimism", it's sports entertainment and it was exciting around here at a level that it hasn't been in quite some time. I can't control what the team does or doesn't do, I just hope that whatever they do turns out for the best like any fan would/should. If you don't or can't understand that then I'm not going to try to make you. Jealousy will do nothing but twist you up inside. It's a wasted emotion. I'm trying not to be rude, but I wonder what's going on with you to make you feel like you do... You're right it is entertainment. Maybe I'm different in how I react. If the Bills have a tough last second loss or blow a game, I'll turn off football, buffalo radio or whatever and move onto something else. So in my response I look at it as being optimistic. In regards to free agency, this is like a bad loss. I don't wanna hear anything about football. I'll probably check out for a bit after today. If I liked a show, but don't like it, I'll stop watching it. The beauty about sports is you'll always come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I would LOVE to know what the agreed on Compensation package. Jeremiah was speculating a swap of 1sts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Tooo easy move to next WR trade target. OBJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Ugh! Ugh! What a missed opportunity for Allen and this Franchise. really really stinks to get that close to a game breaking receiver. you want to talk about expectations and taking that next step (like many teams do in year 2)...Brown would have been a Jet Pack to the next level and really been a kick in the butt to the mind set of this franchise. its nice to see Beane and McD are thinking Big and what to take big swings. would have loved to make contact on this one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 How do all the homers feel about Beane now that he was about to trade for Brown who they consider a cancer? I'm seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance where people are bashing Brown but ignoring the fact that Beane traded for him only to have Brown nix the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: Antonio Brown is arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL. You want the best players on your team. You build cap space to be able to afford those players. But in a league where talent is the most important thing, McDermott and Beane opted to build a culture instead of a contender. Free agents, especially those wanting to win in the near future, are going to question the commitment of the Bills willingness to build a contender. That is what I got out of this. We have the money, we have the roster space, and we have one hell of a fan base, but for some reason, none of the top players want to play for the Bills. Please. You don't know that NONE of the top players want to play here. I've been watching this team for 30 years and we've rarely had trouble convincing Free Agents to come here, when we were willing to shell out the money they were looking for. There have been several times we managed to grab players who were Top 5-10 targets around the league (Mario Williams, Bryce Paup, Chris Spielman, Ted Washington, Sam Adams, Takeo Spikes). I agree that SOME of the top players don't want to play here. And a big-headed, egotistical idiot like Antonio Brown who believes the entire world revolves around him, is part of that group. Oh well. My thing is, anyone with that kind of attitude is probably not a good thing for a young and growing team. Everybody is different. If I was an NFL player, I would do everything in my power to avoid ending up in certain cities. I would hate living in New York City or anywhere in California. Those places are not my style. I'm also not sure I could convince myself to play for a coach like Bill Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Jeremiah was speculating a swap of 1sts. Not bad compensation if it is accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, nucci said: up until this past season, his behavior was fine....he was the best WR in the league Have you seen any of his recent interviews? He does seem like he lost his mind somewhere during all of this. I don’t think it’s a big loss, he was just as likely to stunt Allen’s growth with his own self serving personality as he was to help it with his on the field talent. The move would have moved the entertainment needle to the max, it was exciting to think about but I’m not sure it changes things going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 And why does everyone assume it has to do with the city itself. There really isn’t a big difference between Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Buffalo. If you really think that, then clearly you haven’t been to many places or have a incurable case of self-hate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Bingo I 100% believe the narrative Brown wants a new contract on the team he picks. He's going to force the Steelers to release him. The Titans / Redskins smelled it out and pulled out before they let it get reported to the point of essentially Brown nixing an agreed upon trade. We got used by Rosenhaus / AB and now end up the butt of jokes throughout the entire league because of it, likely through no fault of our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Tooo easy move to next WR trade target. OBJ. Pick 9 for OBJ and pick 37? That is the equivalent of pick 20-21 on the old chart and between 25-26 on the new chart. Edited March 8, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) Gonna be Pretty sweet to be the team that eliminates ab new team from the playoffs this year! Edited March 8, 2019 by gordong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Chemical said: How do all the homers feel about Beane now that he was about to trade for Brown who they consider a cancer? I'm seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance where people are bashing Brown but ignoring the fact that Beane traded for him only to have Brown nix the deal. Like I said earlier. I'm happy Beane did his due-diligence and explored what it would take to add Brown. I'm not happy that Beane was willing to offer more than 30 other GMs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: This is a black eye on the organization to get dragged through the mud like this. Dont have to walk around fuming but there should be some anger. No, there really shouldn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pick 9 for OBJ and pick 37? Yep I would make that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Jeremiah was speculating a swap of 1sts. That would have been a freaking steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 didn't he say in a recent interview he doesn't even need to play football? Fine. The Steelers should just tell him he has a contract, and if chooses not to honor it then they will suspend him for as long as he decides not to show up, and that any chance of him being traded is out the window. I would have liked to have a talent like him on the Bills, but clearly his ego is getting in the way at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Until we have a respected WINNING team the Bills will have these players that do not want to play for a perennial losing team. That is just the nature of the game. Like Field of Dreams “If you build it they will come” now with that said seems like They are committed to building a winning offense. That and this move that the Bills wanted to make has to make people rethink what a Beane, McD guy consists of. This is why you build your team through the draft. It shows that the Bills are looking for an explosive WR for Allen. I say they do their due diligence on Metcalf and if impressed take him at 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pick 9 for OBJ and pick 37? 9 & Zay for 42, AJ, and Ross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said: Packers or Eagles is my guess. Me too but Seattle is potentially viable. In state trade to Philly could be tricky for Steelers even though NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: You're right it is entertainment. Maybe I'm different in how I react. If the Bills have a tough last second loss or blow a game, I'll turn off football, buffalo radio or whatever and move onto something else. So in my response I look at it as being optimistic. In regards to free agency, this is like a bad loss. I don't wanna hear anything about football. I'll probably check out for a bit after today. If I liked a show, but don't like it, I'll stop watching it. The beauty about sports is you'll always come back. And that is certainly your right to do. It doesn't make you a better or a worse fan for it. It's how you cope/view things. We're all different but we're all (hopefully) pulling for this franchise to turn things around. This is undoubtedly a fan base of masochists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 With the way the Steelers played Le'veon's situation, I could see them just keeping him on sidelines and not releasing him... crazy drama, will be interesting to see how it all lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pick 9 for OBJ and pick 37? OBJ would blow it up too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, gordong said: Gonna be Pretty sweet to be the team that eliminated ab new team from the playoffs this year! you know his new team and that we play them? what if it's opening day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chemical said: How do all the homers feel about Beane now that he was about to trade for Brown who they consider a cancer? I'm seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance where people are bashing Brown but ignoring the fact that Beane traded for him only to have Brown nix the deal. I am super pissed. It was my first thought. All that "process" stuff is just BS to me now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 We should get a comp pick for this. Let's petition Roger Goodell folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I hope Josh Allen reads every single thing written about how bad he is and uses it as motivation next season. Brown is an idiot if he didnt want to play with Allen. He can make throws no other QB in the NFL can make. I hope he winds up alternating between Case Keenum and Colt McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Bingo I 100% believe the narrative Brown wants a new contract on the team he picks. He's going to force the Steelers to release him. The Titans / Redskins smelled it out and pulled out before they let it get reported to the point of essentially Brown nixing an agreed upon trade. We got used by Rosenhaus / AB and now end up the butt of jokes throughout the entire league because of it, likely through no fault of our own. This butt of jokes stuff is crap. Are fans around here really so insecure? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 9 & Zay for 42, AJ, and Ross Even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, mjt328 said: Like I said earlier. I'm happy Beane did his due-diligence and explored what it would take to add Brown. I'm not happy that Beane was willing to offer more than 30 other GMs. What was the offer? I haven't seen that anywhere just curious. I'm probably good with whatever it is short of pick 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Omfg we could have had Sage Rosenfels! Day ruined. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Like I said earlier. I'm happy Beane did his due-diligence and explored what it would take to add Brown. I'm not happy that Beane was willing to offer more than 30 other GMs. 2nd best trade package your preference? 9th? 23rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, One Buffalo said: With the way the Steelers played Le'veon's situation, I could see them just keeping him on sidelines and not releasing him... crazy drama, will be interesting to see how it all lands. They are a proud organization, I could see them letting him retire and stop playing by his rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This guy is a trip. Doesnt want to play with a Hall of Fame quarterback and catch 100 passes a year. Wants to choose where he plays despite signing a long term deal with Pittsburgh. Wants guaranteed money. Wont play in Buffalo for any amount of money. Seems to me he doesnt want to play football as bad as he says he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 OK. AB didn't want to come here. It wasn't about the money. Got it. And that's his prerogative. So why did Rappaport report the story when he did, the way he did? He claims to have had "multiple sources" indicating it was basically a "done deal". Did no one think to check with AB first? Rappaport's credibility here should take a real hit over this. Very lazy reporting it would seem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I am super pissed. It was my first thought. All that "process" stuff is just BS to me now. it always has been....just a stupid slogan that means nothing.....winning should be the most important thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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