major Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I bet the Donald gets a discount and doesn't tip. Didn't Adam S originally say Robert Kraft wasn't the biggest name implicated in this? I've always wondered who Adam was referring to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 10:19 AM, Deranged Rhino said: (Clickbait) If you read the article you'll see the woman sold the spa years ago. But fake news gonna fake news. I know she sold it but my point was more that there is a connection at all. It wasn’t like some said, that he randomly went int there. Trump is buddies with Kraft and he’s cheering on the Pats with this woman.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I know she sold it but my point was more that there is a connection at all. It wasn’t like some said, that he randomly went int there. Trump is buddies with Kraft and he’s cheering on the Pats with this woman.... Coincidence, I'm sure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 https://www.yahoo.com/gma/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-assembled-legal-dream-team-234510439--abc-news-topstories.html Patriots' owner Robert Kraft has assembled a legal dream team to handle his misdemeanor sex solicitation case; can they save him? New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft is bringing hired guns to a courtroom knife fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I knew this was going to be the headline as soon as I saw there was a new post in this thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: I knew this was going to be the headline as soon as I saw there was a new post in this thread How much "quiet" money was (will be) paid out? but then ... The proposed agreement calls for the men to admit they would have been proven guilty at trial. Edited March 19, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: not shocking. if nothing else it may make for some good signs at the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: How much "quiet" money was paid out? Probably the same amount that is usually paid out to refs every Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: A number of other men = the other rich ones. Ridiculous. Yolo - you should update the title to read, "Kraft Gets Off." Edited March 19, 2019 by Gugny 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) ...and this is what is wrong with our country. Laws applied unequally for the rich and famous (for the most part, always exceptions). Edited March 19, 2019 by Mark80 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: A number of other men = the other rich ones. Ridiculous. Yolo - you should update the title to read, "Kraft Gets Off." LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: A number of other men = the other rich ones. Ridiculous. Yolo - you should update the title to read, "Kraft Gets Off..... again" fixed that for ya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, The Wiz said: Quote A number of other men = the other rich ones. Ridiculous. Yolo - you should update the title to read, "Kraft Gets Off..... again" fixed that for ya. I was just about to say the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 11:07 AM, LikeIGiveADarn said: How long before Pats fans rush in with "All the owners do this!" They have multiple media outlets already doing it in Boston. They are trying to down play the hell out of this like every guy does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mark80 said: ...and this is what is wrong with our country. Laws applied unequally for the Brady's and Patriots (for the most part, always exceptions). There... I fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Top 1 percent Go Trump go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: They have multiple media outlets already doing it in Boston. They are trying to down play the hell out of this like every guy does it. Yeah, it's actually only about 6 out of 10 guys doing it. 18 minutes ago, Mark80 said: ...and this is what is wrong with our country. Laws applied unequally for the rich and famous (for the most part, always exceptions). It's a misdemeanor. The average person might have to pay a fine, and no one would hear about it. Edited March 19, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The damage is beyond done to his image...but Billionaires tend to not go to prison unless they steal other billionaires' $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I admit that this is a case where money was used to purchase "justice," but their is a caveat. I'm not paying to subscribe to the WSJ so I can read the whole article, but in the free snippet, it does state that Kraft and the others have to admit that they would have been proven guilty had the case gone to trial. That will make it hard for the NFL to just push all the dirt under a rug. Fans, and maybe players (other than those of the Patriots) aren't necessarily going to lay down and be quiet. There's blood in the water and we know it. The commissioner may have to come up with some kind of slap on the wrist under the "conduct detrimental to the NFL" in the CBA. At the very least, Kraft's reputation as the class of the leagues owners is soiled. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, HansLanda said: The damage is beyond done to his image...but Billionaires tend to not go to prison unless they steal other billionaires' $$. It's a misdemeanor. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I admit that this is a case where money was used to purchase "justice," but their is a caveat. I'm not paying to subscribe to the WSJ so I can read the whole article, but in the free snippet, it does state that Kraft and the others have to admit that they would have been proven guilty had the case gone to trial. That will make it hard for the NFL to just push all the dirt under a rug. Fans, and maybe players (other than those of the Patriots) aren't necessarily going to lay down and be quiet. There's blood in the water and we know it. The commissioner may have to come up with some kind of slap on the wrist under the "conduct detrimental to the NFL" in the CBA. At the very least, Kraft's reputation as the class of the leagues owners is soiled. The NFL has shown they do not need a conviction to suspend or fine a person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 This country is so backwards man. Really makes me sick. Do you know how many poor people are in jail because of minor offenses and they get heavy sentences. Depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just when you think this case has dried up a little more information leaks out. Happens every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, OJ Tom said: It's a misdemeanor. Get a grip. Are you a billionaire? Why are you caping for Kraft? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said: This country is so backwards man. Really makes me sick. Do you know how many poor people are in jail because of minor offenses and they get heavy sentences. Depressing. It's a misdemeanor. No one is in jail for this crime, unless they can't pay the fine, or have some prior record. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 12:12 PM, Bangarang said: This is going to get tossed out pretty quickly I’d imagine. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I admit that this is a case where money was used to purchase "justice," but their is a caveat. I'm not paying to subscribe to the WSJ so I can read the whole article, but in the free snippet, it does state that Kraft and the others have to admit that they would have been proven guilty had the case gone to trial. That will make it hard for the NFL to just push all the dirt under a rug. Fans, and maybe players (other than those of the Patriots) aren't necessarily going to lay down and be quiet. There's blood in the water and we know it. The commissioner may have to come up with some kind of slap on the wrist under the "conduct detrimental to the NFL" in the CBA. At the very least, Kraft's reputation as the class of the leagues owners is soiled. This is kind of my thought. I also think that if Kraft takes the deal and admits to it, then he opens himself up to discipline consequences. What did Jerry Richardson do exactly? Trying to figure out how Kraft using women who are in the sex slave industry is any less offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: Yeah, it's actually only about 6 out of 10 guys doing it. It's a misdemeanor. The average person might have to pay a fine, and no one would hear about it. Exactly. They would have to pay a fine. He was caught on tape doing the crime. The average person would have to pay a fine. If they couldn't afford to pay the fine they could be subject to a bench warrant or wage garnishments which exasperates the situation even further. Imagine Joe Schmo struggling to make ends meet found in this situation, can't afford the fine and gets put in jail for not paying it, then loses job for missing time because of it as well, then wont get hired by anyone because they ran a background check and he was found guilty of soliciting prostitution on his record. Conversely, Kraft has nothing on his record, was embarrassed for a minute, and gets to move on as if nothing ever happened. Lets not even start talking about the leeway given to "white collar" crimes compared to their counterparts. Steal millions of dollars and get less punishment than someone who has stolen a tv on 3 separate occasions. Awesome. Edited March 19, 2019 by Mark80 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Are you a billionaire? Why are you caping for Kraft? LOL! I think he should be in prison for life, because he is the rich owner of a rival football team. When I see a wealthy guy get away with a HJ, it brings the injustices of the world into focus. 2 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Exactly. They would have to pay a fine. He was caught on tape doing the crime. The average person would have to pay a fine. If they couldn't afford to pay the fine they could be subject to a bench warrant or wage garnishments which exasperates the situation even further. Imagine Joe Schmo struggling to make ends meet found in this situation, can't afford the fine and gets put in jail for not paying it, then loses job for missing time because of it as well, then wont get hired by anyone because they ran a background check and he was found guilty of soliciting prostitution on his record. Conversely, Kraft has nothing on his record, was embarrassed for a minute, and gets to move on as if nothing ever happened. You're out of your mind. Get a grip. Edited March 19, 2019 by OJ Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: I think he should be in prison for life, because he is the rich owner of a rival football team. When I see a wealthy guy get away with a *****, it just brings the injustices of the world into focus. You're out of your mind. Get a grip. Yeah, great input. That's what everyone here is pushing for. Way to take it to a laughable extreme. Really helps your argument. No one says punish them more, we just say punish them the same. It's really not that hard to understand. You are clearly uneducated on the subject so I will just ignore you going forward. No problem. Edited March 19, 2019 by Mark80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Kraft has nothing on his record, was embarrassed for a minute Embarrassed for a minute? This is going to follow him around until he dies. I'm anticipating some great crowd chants and signs at New Era for next year's game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Yeah, great input. That's what everyone here is pushing for. Way to take it to a laughable extreme. Really helps your argument. No one says punish them more, we just say punish them the same. It's really not that hard to understand. Flogging? $500 fine? What great travesty of justice has occurred? 18 minutes ago, QCity said: Embarrassed for a minute? This is going to follow him around until he dies. I'm anticipating some great crowd chants and signs at New Era for next year's game. Yep. It's way worse than some petty fine. It's gonna be great! It's going to be the centerpiece of the Pats season. I expect to see a shortened stub of rubber, with a hand glued to it, thrown on the field this season. Edited March 19, 2019 by OJ Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: It's a misdemeanor. Get a grip. Lighten up Francis, my statement still holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 12:02 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: ...and karma was his name o loving this. what excuses will patsie fans/lovers be making up for this one, LOL They will say, yeah but we win, and if you aren't cheating you aren't trying. That applies to life as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm hardly Nostradamus but I called this. Nothing would happen to him. At worst he'd make a donation to a women's charity, but it looks like he doesn't even have to do that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 If anything he should be applauded for going to cost effective route for sex instead of marriage or being some young girls sugar daddy. Shows why the Patriots are such a well run organization, pragmatism always wins out in the Long haul. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Not surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The punishment shouldn’t be crazy but their should be a fine and a loss of Comp picks for this year and next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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