What do you want to see this offseason: Free Agency

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 hours ago, Juice_32 said:

Give me OT Daryl Williams, C Mitch Morse, WR Adam Humphries, TE Jesse James and DL Jordan Phillips in FA.

 

Then trade back in the first for another 2nd and draft DL Wilkins, WR Harmon, G Risner, TE Knox, and BPA the rest of the way with a RB and CB somewhere in there.

This is pretty much lockstep for what I would like to see free agent wise. My RB of choice is Elijah Holyfield. And I'm ok with Humphries as long as we get a speed WR in the draft high up.

[Kirby Jackson]

57 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I'm not sure why the game is setup with one from each position.  Why not 3 from the 5 million slot?  Or any combo that gets to 15 mill? 

 

Going with the one player in each, I get: Paradis; Jessie James; Trent Brown; Jordan Phillips; and Cole Beasley.  

 

Going just to 15 in any manner: Paradis (5 million); Jessie James (4 million); T. Williams (4 million) Adam Humphreys (1 million); Jordan Phillips (1 million);   

Usually they are one from each column and $15 total. 

[Chuck Wagon]

22 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

In past threads i've seen some suggest that we sign Kareem Hunt on a one year prove it deal. Well you can scratch that off your list. Cleveland just signed him today.

I see all these other teams making moves, while our Bills & Sabres do nothing. Patience is a virtue is they say, well then nobody is as virtuous as us Bills fans

 

 

 

The only players who can be signed right now are guys who were cut.  3 guys have been signed.  I don't know what you think the Bills are missing out on right now.

[Kirby Jackson]

45 minutes ago, brianthomas said:

In past threads i've seen some suggest that we sign Kareem Hunt on a one year prove it deal. Well you can scratch that off your list. Cleveland just signed him today.

I see all these other teams making moves, while our Bills & Sabres do nothing. Patience is a virtue is they say, well then nobody is as virtuous as us Bills fans

 

This is a new one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone run out of patience BEFORE the start of FA. 

[Adam727]

More than anything, I'd like to see the Bills roll some sizable cap space (30-50mil) over to next year when hopefully the FA pool is better, we have a better idea of what positions we need help at, and we have a better idea of what we have at QB.  My biggest fear is that Beane will feel pressure to win now and put us back in Cap jail by overpaying for average talent.

 

I'd like to see the Bills go out and sign the best Center and best Tackle they can get. After that maybe a few cheap depth signings here and there and roll the rest over to 2020.

 

  

[freddyjj]

Ok here's my best guess at OBD targets in FA signing period.  I don't think Beane shoots for the stars but tries to add some under rated talent at positions of need that help offense run the ball and pass more efficiently. They like signing guys who have injury question marks as buys down cost.  Excerpts from WalterFootball.

 

Offense

Jon Halapio, C, Giants. Age: 28. 3rd ranked Offensive C.  Better than what we got currently - a tough guy too!
Jon Halapio had a promising start to his 2018 campaign, but suffered a broken ankle in the early going that sidelined him for the year. Halapio looks like he's going to be a solid starting center in the NFL over the next five years. 

Daryl Williams, OT, Panthers. Age: 27.  Top ranked RT.  Mauler in run game.
Daryl Williams was sorely missed in 2018. He played just one game because of a knee injury. Williams is Carolina's best offensive lineman, and he's only 27 (in August), so he's still due a large contract despite barely playing last year. 

 

Geronimo Allison (RFA), WR, Packers. Age: 25.  Would require submitting offer that forces GB to walk away.  Front loaded 2 year deal.  Can play x receiver spot - only 25 too.
Geronimo Allison has a tremendous amount of potential. Just 24 throughout the 2018 campaign, Allison caught at least five passes in all but one of his first four games before suffering a season-ending groin injury. Allison should bounce back in 2019, perhaps even with a Pro Bowl-caliber campaign if Aaron Rodgers remains 100 percent throughout the year. 

 

Same thing on D, not necessarily household names but strong players at point of attack up front and some versatility at 2nd and 3rd levels.  Who knew Hyde/Poyer or Trent Murphy by name the past 2 years?

 

Defense

Trey Flowers, DE, Patriots. Age: 26.  Hurts Pats and helps us buy insurance for Hughes and/or Shaq leaving and Murphy being unavailable due to injury - chess piece!
If you want proof that Trey Flowers was crucial to New England's defense last year, consider that he missed the Jacksonville and Detroit games (was knocked out on the opening drive versus the Jaguars), and New England lost both contests despite those opponents failing to make the playoffs. Flowers is an exceptional talent as both a pass rusher and a run stopper. He's just 26 (in August), so he should continue to improve his game. 

 

Christian Covington, DE/DT, Texans. Age: 25.  Not too worried on pass rush as Bills can use a Turbo package on pass downs with Zo/Shaq at DT and Murphy/Hughes outside.
Christian Covington is one of the top run-stuffing defensive linemen in the NFL. His pass-rushing skills need work, but he won't turn 26 until October, so he has plenty of time to develop moves to get to the quarterback. 

Resign Jordan Philips as well at DT.

 

Trevor Williams (RFA), CB, Chargers. Age: 25.  $2-3mm per year likely gets him as coming off injury.  RFA offer required - was a UDFA
Trevor Williams was excellent in 2017. Unfortunately for him, he had an injury-ravaged 2018 campaign. Williams was hobbled with an early ankle injury, then was lost for the year because of a knee issue. He's young enough to bounce back next year.  

 

Shaq Barrett, DE/OLB, Broncos. Age: 26.  A Zo replacement that gets a year to be mentored by Zo.  7 FF and 14 sacks in 14 career starts!
Shaq Barrett is a solid situational pass-rusher who plays the run well, too. Barrett didn't have a chance to compete for a starting job behind Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. Perhaps he'll get that chance elsewhere. 

 

I feel OBD looks for matches to our schemes than goes for the under-utilized player with some tread left on tires that they can get on a long term team friendly deal.  Only Daryl Williams and Trey Flowers will be big $$ signings.  The other signees will be better than the player they’re replacing and plug into lineup as a starter or part of rotation on D.

 

Edited February 11, 2019 by freddyjj

[ndirish1978]

It's imperative we sign 2 OL at least. I doubt we're able to draft 3 starters and get them to learn the nuances of playing OL in the league quickly enough to help Josh out this year. We need a vet C and and I'd like to sign a LG to push Dawkins' development along. 

[custcarcen]

I think it’s obvious that he’s upset that we lost out on the #1 woman- beater available. Damn!

[ProcessAccepted]

5 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said:

No thanks to a 31yr old slot Wr. 

I's still take him over Sammy

[Buffalo Junction]

3 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

Golden Tate would cost more because he's actually productive.  Humphries as I mentioned is also a way better option than Cobb.  Foster and Zay really came on at the end of last year, I don't think we need to pay for an expensive WR coach or take our young players off the field in favor of a guy who hasn't been good for 4 seasons despite playing with arguably the best QB in the league.

IDK. I’d be pretty happy to add a receiver that provides 60 receptions, 600 yards, 4 tds, and the ability to return kicks (average of last 4 seasons)... All while not getting in trouble off the field, getting taunting penalties, or providing opponents with bulletin board material. 

 

Beane has money to spend. There are definitely better options than Cobb. I’m just not sure there’s a better value. Time will tell. 

[Dkollidas]

9 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said:

We could of had Sammy for that money.  

 

Oh you mean the guy who’s had as many 1000yd seasons as Williams, just not as recently? And has chronic injury issues, unlike Williams?

 

Names are nice but I think I’d rather spend my cap space on the 6’4” guy who has good wheels and can stay on the field. 

[Tipster19]

At minimum we have to secure our C. I expect either Mat Paradis or Mitch Morse to be a Bill. Continuing in upgrading our OL I think that G Ramon Foster and Ja’Wuan James would be great additions for us. Staying on the offensive side of the ball 1 of these 2 WRs would solidify our WR position. They are both former 1st rd picks and eerily share the same jersey number (#11) and were taken in the same draft and hat would be DeVante Parker, if he gets released, or Kevin White. I would to see that come to fruition, I feel that that would make a great WR room, players that need to resurrect their careers. Now on the defensive side of the ball I would be absolutely shocked if DT Gerald McCoy doesn’t become a Bill.

[FLFan]

9 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

At minimum we have to secure our C. I expect either Mat Paradis or Mitch Morse to be a Bill. Continuing in upgrading our OL I think that G Ramon Foster and Ja’Wuan James would be great additions for us. Staying on the offensive side of the ball 1 of these 2 WRs would solidify our WR position. They are both former 1st rd picks and eerily share the same jersey number (#11) and were taken in the same draft and hat would be DeVante Parker, if he gets released, or Kevin White. I would to see that come to fruition, I feel that that would make a great WR room, players that need to resurrect their careers. Now on the defensive side of the ball I would be absolutely shocked if DT Gerald McCoy doesn’t become a Bill.

This would be a fantastic haul in FA.  Center is clearly the number 1 priority, with G and T 1a.  Filling even two of these positions with quality starters would be a win - all three a home run. While looking for a good WR prospect in the draft is also a priority, I would rather find an experienced WR in FA who can contribute immediately.  Rather than 2 WR in FA, I would like to see a TE as the next priority.

 

McCoy makes a great deal of sense for the Bills, and I would love to see this happen.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

It doesn’t sound like a Golden Tate contract extension is in the works

Posted by Josh Alper on February 12, 2019, 6:41 AM EST

 

Wide receiver Golden Tate said last month that he is hopeful that his time with the Eagles is “not coming to an end” after the impending free agent joined the team in a midseason trade with the Lions.

 

Eagles executive vice president of football operations Howie Roseman said he felt good about making that trade despite middling production –30 catches for 278 yards — from Tate during the regular season. He didn’t say anything about the team’s plans on the extension front and a tweet from Tate on Monday suggests he hasn’t said anything to the wideout either.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Lawrence, Clark, Clowney - if they are all tagged... Then lemme see some Trey Flowers.  

 

As for Oline - we need a center who isn't bodine.  

[Clemfield2622]

Add Vinny Curry and Demarius Thomas to the list of veterans now available.

[MrEpsYtown]

Man I should have wrote Spencer Long in here! Would have looked like a genius!

[GreggTX]

I hope Gerald McCoy is available to replace Kyle. I know he's on the downside of his career, but maybe he could give us good value for a 3 year deal.

[tombstone56]

 if I was to write a wish list it might be like this...

frank clark .edge rusher.. seatlle

dee ford olb… kc 

 Williams ot.. carolina

 tj yeldon rb…. jax

 trey flower or brown ,,just to piss off  patriots

I think cut day before fa is going to bring some surprise names ,

lots of teams going to have cap trouble

 

[Augie]

This is a long dry spell and right now I just want Free Agency to...................START! 

[Misterbluesky]

13 minutes ago, Augie said:

This is a long dry spell and right now I just want Free Agency to...................START! 

Soooo..you're not a fan of the AAF....

[Augie]

1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said:

Soooo..you're not a fan of the AAF....

 

Yeah....that’s fine....whatever. I’m a fan of the BILLS! 

 

Unlike my younger days, I watch few games where the Bills are not playing. I used to watch the best game on TV, every week. Any day of the week. Now, if it’s not the Bills, I only see the key matchups. 

[Misterbluesky]

17 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Yeah....that’s fine....whatever. I’m a fan of the BILLS! 

 

Unlike my younger days, I watch few games where the Bills are not playing. I used to watch the best game on TV, every week. Any day of the week. Now, if it’s not the Bills, I only see the key matchups. 

I just deleted all of our'18 games on my Directv box earlier...just like you,I'm ready for free agency to begin..right now,we're just chewing on meatless bones.

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Yeah....that’s fine....whatever. I’m a fan of the BILLS! 

 

Unlike my younger days, I watch few games where the Bills are not playing. I used to watch the best game on TV, every week. Any day of the week. Now, if it’s not the Bills, I only see the key matchups. 

Ditto.

 

What’s happened to us??

[WizdomCalling]

I want to see us pick up the best center for their style and budget and also a road grading guard. Sad as it is about Incognito's mental health, he was one heck of a run blocker. The game is won in the trenches. 

 

Other than that I think a veteran TE would be nice 

[Dkollidas]

Mitch Morse 

Daryl Williams

D-Line Depth (Vinny Curry?)

Slot WR (Cobb or Brown?)

Re-Sign Jordan Phillips

 

this would

A) Solidify the offensive line

B) Add another guy into the d-line rotation

C) add a veteran to the WR group 

D) Allow is to go BPA at #9 or trade down (I think they’ll be in a prime spot to trade down with Washington or Oakland)

[Augie]

8 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Ditto.

 

What’s happened to us??

 

Maybe it’s that I used to watch everything that was available, but now it’s constantly available so it feels like less? We have Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night, Red Zone, Fantasy coverage, etc. I used to get a couple games cable would show me, and that was that. Halftime of the Monday night game gave you all the highlights, so it was must see TV. NOW? It’s hard to avoid the constant coverage. 

 

That....or I just got old? 

Edited February 13, 2019 by Augie

[HogWildBill]

I think it's important that they help Allen immediately.

 

Tyrell Williams would be a huge upgrade, immediately becoming our top WR and our best deep threat. He's a huge target- 6'4" that understands how to get open when plays break down and may always be Allen's strength.  He's only 27, so he has plenty left in the tank.

 

I would be happy to add Jesse James at TE. He's improved as a blocker which is important in this offense, but what I really like is his fire. He's gutsy and gritty, and that's always been a part of the DNA in the best Bills teams. 

 

I would love to add Travis Swanson at center if he doesn't get resigned by Miami. He probably will, but he's young, smart, and a really good run blocking center. I think he would be a great fit and could be in Buffalo for a while if things break down in talks with Miami. 

[thenorthremembers]

1. Preston Smith Defensive End Washington- Wont have to break the bank like you will for Clowney or Lawrence.  He is young, hasnt missed a game, and athletic.  I think his best football is ahead of him.
2. Ja'Waun James Right Tackle Miami- Would almost prefer Daryl Williams here but the injury history scares me a bit.   James has more starting experience and is the same age.  Probably will cost a bit of money but he would solidify the right side for the foreseeable future. 
3. Jesse James Tight End Pittsburgh- Could start or provide depth.  Most likely going to need two tight ends either in free agency or the draft.
4. Jordan Phillips Defensive Tackle Buffalo-  He isn't a gamebreaker but he does provide solid depth.  Figure on him being a late signing because I think he is looking for more than Buffalo is offering.  Again, probably need two defensive tackles this offseason.
5. David Mayo Outside Linebacker Carolina- Was a Beane and McDermott guy in Carolina.  Can add to special teams and provide depth.

 

I like Tyrell Williams but I dont think he is a number one wideout, would rather draft one in the first round and develop them.  Even if they fail you spend a lot less money on the player than you would if you get one in free agency.   I am glad the front office is planning to be smart.  Dont overpay in free agency.

 

 

[JerseyBills]

On 2/11/2019 at 1:39 PM, Steve Billieve said:

All I want is to avoid contracts like Star's.

I kinda disagree . He is essential for McD defense , he demands a double team and frees up DL and LB. I know Taron,Levi and Edmunds had a big impact but he was our biggest fa aquisition and a big reason we were #2 in ypg. Slightly overpaid , but definitely nowhere near as bad as ppl on here say. His numbers will never reflect his impact on this defense

[Steve Billieve]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I kinda disagree . He is essential for McD defense , he demands a double team and frees up DL and LB. I know Taron,Levi and Edmunds had a big impact but he was our biggest fa aquisition and a big reason we were #2 in ypg. Slightly overpaid , but definitely nowhere near as bad as ppl on here say. His numbers will never reflect his impact on this defense

There are other people who do what he does, but they don't make what he does.  There's not even an upside to the contract, it started out bad and can only get worse.  Isn't he our highest paid player this year? You can't play role players like that!  A couple more contracts like his and we'll be headed for another cap hell repeat of this year.

[Chandler#81]

Per Mike Garofalo, 49ers won’t pick up option on Pierre Garçon 

[ctk232]

On 2/13/2019 at 9:36 AM, HogWildBill said:

Tyrell Williams would be a huge upgrade, immediately becoming our top WR and our best deep threat. He's a huge target- 6'4" that understands how to get open when plays break down and may always be Allen's strength.  He's only 27, so he has plenty left in the tank.

While I like Jesse James, going to have to disagree with ya here for Williams. Apologies for the long-winded response forthcoming...

 

While Williams wouldn't be a downgrade in terms of options for Allen, he certainly wouldn't be the upgrade you've pegged him to be here either. Especially considering the paycheck we'd have to give him to get him here as he's made it public he's seeking WR1 money, despite regressing since his 2016 season.

 

Where I differ here is I don't believe he's actually done anything to demonstrate he deserves that kind of money and responsibility in an offense. Granted, if his strengths lie in stretching the field, then perhaps there may be jaded conversation surrounding his recent performances considering Rivers' arm strength. But I sincerely doubt that being the case, and to that end, to put up the middling numbers he has the past couple of seasons under a River's led Chargers offense that has always had a solid running game, and other receiving targets during his tenure to allow Williams to shine more, is pretty telling in terms of his current ability and production. He has seen about 20 fewer targets per season since his 1000+ yd performance in 2016, but 

 

As for the deep threat - I'd actually say there is more potential upside with Duke fulfilling this role, as our only barometer for his play thus far is from the CFL and in a more dominant manner. I'd take his potential as a deep threat over William's demonstrated, and translatable, performance. Simply put, he's just not worth the money we'd have to spend for the production he'd ultimately provide. Beyond preferring Duke for the deep threat role, I'd much prefer most any of the WRs in this draft as an addition to the corps over Williams as each would provide more potential upside for a fraction of the price.

Edited February 14, 2019 by ctk232

[Bill from NYC]

Look, I know I am a broken record with Alabama players. I am sorry too, but these are the only kids I see play every game.

 

I think that DJ Fluker is a UFA. He was ranked high and drafted early when he came out. He was a right tackle in college but due to his height he was more suited to play guard in the NFL. He has been hurt quite a bit but he is a physical beast. DJ is probably one of the strongest players in the NFL. Opponents feared him in college. I'm under the impression that he had a decent year for the Seahawks and is now a UFA. The Bills could probably sign him for less than a fortune.

 

If Fluker is healthy, Bills Fans would love to watch him play. When healthy he really can overpower defensive linemen.

[QuoteTheRaven83]

Paradis and Trey Flowers (possibly Suh) is all I want in free agency. 

 

There's not a WR out there in free agency that I really want. 

Edited February 15, 2019 by QuoteTheRaven83

[Chandler#81]

At least 2 other 4.3 speed guys at WR. For reasons unknown, this hasn’t seemed critical for past few regimes. We’ve had Glass Goodwin and Foster as an UDFA. Glass would knock himself out of the line up falling on the ball and Robert -who certainly finished with a flurry- was kicked to the curb before getting a second chance out of pure necessity. We’re still one injury away from facing 9 in the box, in spite of Josh. 

#GarnerSomeSPEED!

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...Lions fans pretty PO'ed about vet safety Glover Quin release....

[DefenseWins]

I don't have any specific favorites to sign. Center, tackle/guard, tight end and WR would be obvious targets in FA. Keep in mind too that the Bills need to make a decision soon on Dion Dawkins. While he is under contract for 2019 and 2020, if you acquire another LT to take over the position and move Dawkins to either RT or say LG, keep in mind that with good LT's being in such short supply in the NFL, someone else is bound to offer him more money than the Bills would likely be inclined to pay him, and he would leave in FA for sure in 2021. I don't believe that Dawkins or his agent would be too crazy about his position being changed either. So far, his play at LT has been ok, but not outstanding. The question is can the Bills do better at LT?

 

[Bob in STL]

Some great ideas here.

 

I’ll  will only add we should do not overpay for big names just because we have cap space.    The current regime has shown ability to draft and develop players.   I think we are one step from a legitimate Wild Card team, and then another step to get to a legitimate contender.  

 

So I would save some cap space for the year after next to help sign our own players and to fill holes in 2020.  

 

Git ’er done Beansie.  

Edited February 16, 2019 by Bob in STL

[formerlyofCtown]

Roger Saffold

Daryl Williams

Jared Cook

Jay Ajayi

Jordan Phillips

Martavis Bryant

 

Allows for BPA in draft and a nasty 1-2 punch in the backfield.

Edited February 17, 2019 by formerlyofCtown