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8 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

I hate that guy.

 

If it weren't for Brees they'd be at the bottom of my list just above the Pats for whiniest fans and most annoying sports city.

 

nicest fans i've ever come across at games. you couldn't be more wrong

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16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Sean Payton is such an arrogant jerk. He’s a great football coach (terrible husband). 

I don’t like him or Brees. It’s a legendary troll job and he is one of the few guys that won’t back down to the league. I respect that. 

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52 minutes ago, metzelaars_lives said:

You realize, of course, that if the Saints just ran the ball three times, they could've kicked a FG with 15 like seconds left and the Rams would've had no timeouts remaining, right?

Not true. When the Saints got a first down at the 13, the Rams had two TOs and there was 1:58 left on the clock. Assuming 2 seven-second plays, then running down the clock to the end, and the then the 4 seconds it takes to kick a FG, the Rams would have gotten the ball with roughly 1:00 left. 

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Did Roger tell him to blow a 13-0 lead at home?

 

Did Roger tell Brees to toss a pick in OT to lose the game?

 

Did Roger tell him not to simply run it 3 times and win with a FG?

 

Asking for a friend...

Saints are lucky NRC didn't just turn around and catch the ball for a pick 6

 

They still should have won.

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4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Did Roger tell him to blow a 13-0 lead at home?

 

Did Roger tell Brees to toss a pick in OT to lose the game?

 

Did Roger tell him not to simply run it 3 times and win with a FG?

 

Asking for a friend...

Saints are lucky NRC didn't just turn around and catch the ball for a pick 6

 

They still should have won.

 

I understand what you mean, but the problem with this is that it was a close game, as it's supposed to be when you have two of the top 4 teams playing. Every play matters. Every Snap matters. Every yard matters. That's the beauty of the NFL is that it is still an every given sunday sport because each and every factor matters. Both teams made mistakes, both teams did things right. It came down to one play where the Rams made the mistake of not covering the flat, and the Saints did the right thing of seeing it and exploiting it. It should have ended the game, but instead it didn't and it reset the clock on the every given play. After that, the Saints should have won in OT, but they never should have been in OT to begin with. 

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The Saints have kind of been my NFC "team" but I have to say the reaction of fans/players/coaches to the non-call has been absolutely ridiculous.  Grow up and move on.  The Saints had every opportunity to still win that ballgame.

 

It's not like you had refs blow a play that literally ended the game...mumble mumble mumble...

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So he's too chicken s*** to just wear the t-shirt, but just shows a very small slice of it and I'm supposed to be impressed by how "legendary" he is.  Looks more like a guy who's pretending to be edgy but too scared to actually do it.

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20 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

I understand what you mean, but the problem with this is that it was a close game, as it's supposed to be when you have two of the top 4 teams playing. Every play matters. Every Snap matters. Every yard matters. That's the beauty of the NFL is that it is still an every given sunday sport because each and every factor matters. Both teams made mistakes, both teams did things right. It came down to one play where the Rams made the mistake of not covering the flat, and the Saints did the right thing of seeing it and exploiting it. It should have ended the game, but instead it didn't and it reset the clock on the every given play. After that, the Saints should have won in OT, but they never should have been in OT to begin with. 

 

Precisely the reason you run the ball in the red zone and play the clock. 

 

That non-call was egregious, but that’s not why they lost the game. There was zero reason to pass the ball even one time, let alone three. 

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42 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

I don’t like him or Brees. It’s a legendary troll job and he is one of the few guys that won’t back down to the league. I respect that. 

They are pretty phony. I have plenty of stories of both of them because I had a good friend that played with them. I got to know a bunch of the guys pretty well. They loved those guys but those guys are not without flaws. 

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1 hour ago, CommonCents said:

I don’t like him or Brees. It’s a legendary troll job and he is one of the few guys that won’t back down to the league. I respect that. 

 

What do you have against Brees?

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1 hour ago, metzelaars_lives said:

You realize, of course, that if the Saints just ran the ball three times, they could've kicked a FG with 15 like seconds left and the Rams would've had no timeouts remaining, right?

But he was being aggressive and kept doing what got them there so the football gods are happy.

 

Sometimes common sense and the percentages are the better what to go.

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2 hours ago, metzelaars_lives said:

You realize, of course, that if the Saints just ran the ball three times, they could've kicked a FG with 15 like seconds left and the Rams would've had no timeouts remaining, right?

Yup.  The incompletion on first down was ridiculous. 

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Yup, I'll say it

 

Brees is overrated

 

You hear all this MVP talk and how he hasn't thrown a pick in 5 years and completes 90% of his passes then his offense doesn't do squat and he tosses up a gift of a puck in OT and spends weeks whining that the Rams db didn't turn around and intercept his other softball for a pick 6 to end the game in regulation

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I like Brees, most of the Saints players, and their fans are great. Never liked Payton, even before Bountygate. He comes off like that sour-faced jerk at work found in every office. His Lyvia Soprano-esq "lord take me now" martyrdom has only gotten more nauseating since the NFC Championship game. I'd sooner watch a Jeff Fisher team play against a team with a cloned Jeff Fisher as their coach than hear more musings from Sean on this matter.

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2 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

 

Precisely the reason you run the ball in the red zone and play the clock. 

 

That non-call was egregious, but that’s not why they lost the game. There was zero reason to pass the ball even one time, let alone three. 

 

except that they would have won. I agree it wasn’t a good strategy, but the literal only reason they lost is because of the no-call. They would have either gotten first and goal, or a touchdown if the play had happened as it is supposed to.

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4 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

nicest fans i've ever come across at games. you couldn't be more wrong

 

My brother lives in Covington, is a transplant fan down there, has Saints season tickets through his work.

 

Refuses to go anymore because of the Aholes and he used to live in Philly if that says anything.  He says if you wear Saints gear you're fine, if you happen to be there as a fan for another team expect to get pelted win or lose.   Did say the family section there is fine but his experience has been vastly different than yours.

 

I wasn't surprised at all that they sued the league and took out billboards in Atlanta because of a bad call.   

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Peyton is a great coach, but can you imagine a Belichick team responding to a call like that? (I know, I know, it would never happen.) His body language appeared to set the tone for the entire team. The Saints got screwed, but it wasn't the last play of the game. They had their chances to overcome it and failed.

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4 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

They had plenty of chances to win and Falconed it up

 

haha that's perfect.   I call it 'Doin the Shanahan'

 

It used to be called the Pete Carroll Superbowl Giveaway until Shanny decided to trump stinky Pete.   I still feel so sorry for Arthur Blank he's such a nice guy, got to meet him once. 

 

He was standing there on the sidelines near the end of the game and the Falcs had 1st down on the NE 21 late in the game about to go up two scores and win the trophy, Freeman is foaming at the mouth (he ripped off a huge run on that final drive) the Pats are on their heels and dopey Shanahan decides to call a bunch of 7 step drops. 

 

You obviously know the rest.   Sickening.  

 

 

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5 hours ago, metzelaars_lives said:

You realize, of course, that if the Saints just ran the ball three times, they could've kicked a FG with 15 like seconds left and the Rams would've had no timeouts remaining, right?

 

There would have been 50 seconds left not 15. Last time the teams played the Rams went down the field before half in 23 seconds and kicked a FG. 

 

I thought the play action on 1st down was the right play. Drew didn't make the throw and the pass on 3rd down should have been a penalty. 

 

Payton won his Superbowl going for the throat. It is who he is as a coach. I have no problems the way he called the series. 

 

Where I would criticise him is his reaction to the no call was to basically say "well that has cost us the game" when there was still defense and OT to play. I think that may have transmitted to his team. 

17 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Peyton is a great coach, but can you imagine a Belichick team responding to a call like that? (I know, I know, it would never happen.) His body language appeared to set the tone for the entire team. The Saints got screwed, but it wasn't the last play of the game. They had their chances to overcome it and failed.

 

Totally agree with this. That much more than throwing on that fateful series is where he made a mistake. 

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3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Yup, I'll say it

 

Brees is overrated

 

You hear all this MVP talk and how he hasn't thrown a pick in 5 years and completes 90% of his passes then his offense doesn't do squat and he tosses up a gift of a puck in OT and spends weeks whining that the Rams db didn't turn around and intercept his other softball for a pick 6 to end the game in regulation

Dude got hit as the ball came out lol theres no way you believe what you wrote

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1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

except that they would have won. I agree it wasn’t a good strategy, but the literal only reason they lost is because of the no-call. They would have either gotten first and goal, or a touchdown if the play had happened as it is supposed to.

Correct. 

 

There is not a fan base in the world that is over this missed call at this time.   Not one. It was epically bad, historically bad, almost inconceivably bad and damn near "this game has to be fixed, right?" bad.

 

All the rest is just chit chat distracting from all that.  

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