dubs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: Interesting. so by your definition, to be a "grown man", you have to control the actions and opinions of other adult family members? Well, let me explain it to you more succinctly. If you are a grown man your parents shouldn’t be getting involved in your professional life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: Did you just assume my gender? Good point he may not be sure what you identify as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dubs said: Well, let me explain it to you more succinctly. If you are a grown man your parents shouldn’t be getting involved in your professional life. So then, if your parents post an opinion on your professional life completely beyond your control on social media, that should now reflect badly upon you and every person born after 1987? Edited January 5, 2019 by LikeIGiveADarn 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: So then, if your parents post an opinion on your professional life completely beyond your control on social media, that should now reflect badly upon you and every person born after 1987? Any person born anytime, except it primarily happens with parents of kids born after 1987. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, dubs said: Any person born anytime, except it primarily happens with parents of kids born after 1987. And who said kids born after 1987 wanted it? Maybe Baby Boomers are just ***** parents? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 re Khalil Mack comparison, Mack was 3 yrs younger when traded. So compensation should not be as high for a Miller trade. So definitely shdnt offer #9. That said there was hardly a drop off in Millefr's perf this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JohnC said: The Broncos can make a deal for Antonio Brown's mom. They could trade for his dad who is an Arenaball legend here in Albany. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/sports/2018/04/15/touchdown-eddie-brown-reflects-on-his-time-in-albany Edited January 5, 2019 by Albany,n.y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: This is literally the spot where we can and should push chips on the table for a 3 year window Real mixed feelings on this one. Von Miller will be 30 in March and he's still performing at a high level with 14.5 sacks. You put him on the other side of Jerry Hughes, go out and draft Dexter Lawrence DT and all the sudden you got a dominant front 4. But 17 million that's a lot of cake, tough call. Plus what do you have to give up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, dubs said: Just think it’s really weird for a grown man to have his momma getting all emotional in public and calling out his boss about her son’s job. Call me old fashioned, but it’s weird. But it's not weird for the other thousands of people to have an opinion about how football teams are run? It's just weird because it's his mom? Football players are public personas, as are the people who run the teams. Being in the public spotlight means that people are going to have opinions on how things are done. Whether it's by your mother, your father, your fifth cousin twice removed, some guy you knew in high school, or the fans. They all have opinions and a platform to share their opinion. I guarantee there have been times where you have questioned the Bill's management or players about all the stupid things they have done. Only difference is you're not related to them, so it doesn't go viral Also, you say in public. I wouldn't call commenting on an Instagram picture "in public" 1 hour ago, dubs said: I can’t even imagine dealing with that generation and their parents. Can you imagine Kent Hull’s mom complaining to the news? Or Lawrence Taylor’s mom? Or literally any grown man you’ve ever met older than 25 years old? So you don't deal with people between the ages of roughly 20 and 50? What planet are you living on? Also, LT's mom and/or Kent Hull's mom had their own set of opinions. People having opinions isn't a new thing. They just didn't have a platform (Twitter/Instagram/Whatever else) to espouse their (likely) stupid ideas You're blaming kids for parents who can't control themselves or don't realize that they are in the public's eye. Literally makes zero sense 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, berg1029 said: But it's not weird for the other thousands of people to have an opinion about how football teams are run? It's just weird because it's his mom? Football players are public personas, as are the people who run the teams. Being in the public spotlight means that people are going to have opinions on how things are done. Whether it's by your mother, your father, your fifth cousin twice removed, some guy you knew in high school, or the fans. They all have opinions and a platform to share their opinion. I guarantee there have been times where you have questioned the Bill's management or players about all the stupid things they have done. Only difference is you're not related to them, so it doesn't go viral Also, you say in public. I wouldn't call commenting on an Instagram picture "in public" So you don't deal with people between the ages of roughly 20 and 50? What planet are you living on? Also, LT's mom and/or Kent Hull's mom had their own set of opinions. People having opinions isn't a new thing. They just didn't have a platform (Twitter/Instagram/Whatever else) to espouse their (likely) stupid ideas You're blaming kids for parents who can't control themselves or don't realize that they are in the public's eye. Literally makes zero sense Shh... No logic, only blaming young folks here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Real mixed feelings on this one. Von Miller will be 30 in March and he's still performing at a high level with 14.5 sacks. You put him on the other side of Jerry Hughes, go out and draft Dexter Lawrence DT and all the sudden you got a dominant front 4. But 17 million that's a lot of cake, tough call. Plus what do you have to give up? The problem isn't the $17 million per year salary - the Bills can easily afford that (without having to get into salary cap accounting gimmicks.) The problem is the one or more first round picks that Elway will demand to trade him. Denver isn't letting him go cheap - they know what they have in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don't think anyone is going to trade for von Miller's mother. Maybe the raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Has Beane called Vons mom yet!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, berg1029 said: But it's not weird for the other thousands of people to have an opinion about how football teams are run? It's just weird because it's his mom? Football players are public personas, as are the people who run the teams. Being in the public spotlight means that people are going to have opinions on how things are done. Whether it's by your mother, your father, your fifth cousin twice removed, some guy you knew in high school, or the fans. They all have opinions and a platform to share their opinion. I guarantee there have been times where you have questioned the Bill's management or players about all the stupid things they have done. Only difference is you're not related to them, so it doesn't go viral Also, you say in public. I wouldn't call commenting on an Instagram picture "in public" So you don't deal with people between the ages of roughly 20 and 50? What planet are you living on? Also, LT's mom and/or Kent Hull's mom had their own set of opinions. People having opinions isn't a new thing. They just didn't have a platform (Twitter/Instagram/Whatever else) to espouse their (likely) stupid ideas You're blaming kids for parents who can't control themselves or don't realize that they are in the public's eye. Literally makes zero sense Well, as a man he COULD approach his mother and tell her to knock it off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 hours ago, JoeF said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/von-miller-7717/ Signed through 2022 with base salaries of $17 million; $17.5 million and $17.5 million for the next three seasons....His contract would be up the same year the Bills would have to renew Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds and the year after Tre White's renewal kicks in.... You assume a great career continues easily through 3 more seasons?? i guess there’s a ten percent chance. this is football, they aren’t even guaranteed getting through the next practice..... Guys like Miller burn out in a second, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 The only mom I'd trade for is AJ McCarron's 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 My real confusion here is why everyone here seems to think the only two generations in the last forty years are millenials and baby boomers. Have a feeling that points to the greater underlying problem. Also 1987 wasn't the random cut in date for being a millenial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 This explains the estate sale. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds_80 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Want an example of a "millenial" parent interfering with professional lives? Lavar Ball this is just a mom who is obviously looking out for her son and in her mind is supporting him. Bad idea? sure. But you cant knock her for it Im pretty sure busting his a** to get him to the nfl takes himout of the "millenial" category. Nice try 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I’ll throw in an extra first if his mother stays in Denver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I may be old school, but I think it is a measure of stupidity for players and their parent to be tweeting, Instagram etc, regarding their team. I don’t even have Facebook for good reasons. My friends and family can always text, e-mail, or pick up the phone and call me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Beane failed. He traded away Dareus for a 10th rounder and he was picked one or two after Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: The only mom I'd trade for is AJ McCarron's Josh Allen's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 9 hours ago, dubs said: Possibly but I doubt it. If you’re at a grown man age and you can’t control your mom interfering in your professional life, you’re either part of the royal family or a millennial. He probably didn't know his mom would jump out and say something. Unless he knows about it he can't really stop it. I'm sure he said something to her afterward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Josh Allen's Poyer’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 hours ago, Augie said: I agree, Elway should be traded. Fixed. Elway should shoulder a lot of the blame for the Broncos debacle. He's ruining that team. 6 hours ago, Koko78 said: The problem isn't the $17 million per year salary - the Bills can easily afford that (without having to get into salary cap accounting gimmicks.) The problem is the one or more first round picks that Elway will demand to trade him. Denver isn't letting him go cheap - they know what they have in him. Even if Elway does get picks for him, he'll screw up the draft. He needs to shoulder a lot of the blame when he chooses QBs poorly and Vance Joseph as HC for starters... all disasters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) She's not wrong about Elway. He got lucky, acquiring Manning. He can be forgiven for the draft misses on QBs, but he honestly thought Case Keenum was a franchise guy. The window is now closed and the team is falling apart. Edited January 5, 2019 by Chicken Boo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 9 hours ago, dubs said: Millennials are so pathetic. smh I agree if you mean carrying what a player mom thinks and reading their instagrams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: She's not wrong about Elway. He got lucky, acquiring Manning. He can be forgiven for the draft misses on QBs, but he honestly thought Case Keenum was a franchise guy. The window is now closed and the team is falling apart. he’s been a figurehead in a suit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Elway on Miller's mom: "I think Von can do better" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 hours ago, NoSaint said: This is literally the spot where we can and should push chips on the table for a 3 year window Our window should be greater if we do not get reckless with short term ambitions. VM would make more sense if we were NE or NO with a QB in his last couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Elway on Miller's mom: "I think Von can do better" I doubt he will make a dispectful comment about mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, dubs said: I can’t even imagine dealing with that generation and their parents. Can you imagine Kent Hull’s mom complaining to the news? Or Lawrence Taylor’s mom? Or literally any grown man you’ve ever met older than 25 years old? Elvis Presley was quite a Mama's boy. Just a stinker of a generation. Edited January 5, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Elway on Miller's mom: "I think Von can do better" I read the first four words and started laughing... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Beane failed. He traded away Dareus for a 10th rounder and he was picked one or two after Miller. ?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 12 hours ago, dubs said: Von Miller is a millennial. He was born in 1989. His mom is losing her mind over her son being mentioned in a season ending press conference. It’s his job. He’s a professional athlete and his mom is jumping in. That’s pathetic. So I assume you thought it was pathetic when Carpenter and Hauscka's wives' chimed in on social media, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, LSHMEAB said: So I assume you thought it was pathetic when Carpenter and Hauscka's wives' chimed in on social media, correct? Don’t forget Zay’s mom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 12 hours ago, dubs said: Von Miller is a millennial. He was born in 1989. His mom is losing her mind over her son being mentioned in a season ending press conference. It’s his job. He’s a professional athlete and his mom is jumping in. That’s pathetic. Would actually be the GenX Mom who is pathetic right? Unless Miller is able to control what his Mom tweets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 At least call and kick the tires. The Bills haven't had a dominant pass rush since...how long has Brady been around, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Why is the Mom's reaction news? If Von, himself, said this, then it would qualify. Otherwise, it's talk for the sake of talking. I'm gonna go watch hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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