vincec Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Just dawned on me Whaley came up in Pittsburgh. He sort of had the same knack Pittsburgh looks to have prioritizing individual talent above team first guys. One could argue the Steelers have perpetualy underperformed for the past decade Can’t win pin the Antonio Brown fiasco on Whaley somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, vincec said: Can’t win pin the Antonio Brown fiasco on Whaley somehow? Look up, way above your head... the point made, that’s what was passing over. Whales had the pattern of priotizing talent over teamwork. He found and retained talented players. That pattern is similar to Pit, where he grew up. im not blaming him for jack.... well maybe I could blame him for not taking miles jack, over Shaq? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Good, I hate world culture. How was NE’s culture when Hernandez was murdering people? Culture and arm talent are some of the most overused words constantly being thrown around. Edited January 11, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: Because they don't fire HCs. When was the last time Pitt fired one? They've only had three in my lifetime - Chuck Knoll, Bill Cowher, and Mike Tomlin. So they would watch 2-3 seasons of not making the playoffs, likely the retirement of Ben.....and only then decide to fire Tomlin? That's what the poster I was responding to said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So they would watch 2-3 seasons of not making the playoffs, likely the retirement of Ben.....and only then decide to fire Tomlin? That's what the poster I was responding to said. This is a possibility, at the very least it can't be dismissed. Ben might end up retiring before the Steelers can even consider firing Tomlin. I'm not saying holding onto Tomlin is a good idea; I would have fired him if I were the Steelers' brass. He has lost control of the team and makes some very bad in game decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It's time for the Bills to sacrifice themselves and bring Brown in. I know he's not needed but he needs a job. Let's help him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Niners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: It's time for the Bills to sacrifice themselves and bring Brown in. I know he's not needed but he needs a job. Let's help him out. I really want to bring him in badly but am very worried AB is a complete headcase and could spoil all the good that is happening in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: This is a possibility, at the very least it can't be dismissed. Ben might end up retiring before the Steelers can even consider firing Tomlin. I'm not saying holding onto Tomlin is a good idea; I would have fired him if I were the Steelers' brass. He has lost control of the team and makes some very bad in game decisions. Also tripped a player running full speed during a game. Disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 the Vikings might bite if only to double down on Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Also tripped a player running full speed during a game. Disgusting He tried to trip Jacoby Jones on a Thanksgiving night game, but was not successful. Like no one was watching and wouldn't see him stick his foot out from the sideline. Tomlin got a $100,000 fine for that. Embarrassing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, wppete said: I really want to bring him in badly but am very worried AB is a complete headcase and could spoil all the good that is happening in Buffalo. He's not a headcase, that's just the crap one of the most respected franchises are putting out there. AB, Bell headcases.... White rapist who crashed motorcycles... no problem there. The franchise is going to be garbage in 10 years. They're living in the past and their past accomplishments. That won't work with millenials. We don't care about that. 1 hour ago, Starr Almighty said: It's time for the Bills to sacrifice themselves and bring Brown in. I know he's not needed but he needs a job. Let's help him out. Eh... he's absolutely needed. Our wide receivers are crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Ol Dirty B said: He's not a headcase, that's just the crap one of the most respected franchises are putting out there. AB, Bell headcases.... White rapist who crashed motorcycles... no problem there. The franchise is going to be garbage in 10 years. They're living in the past and their past accomplishments. That won't work with millenials. We don't care about that. Why do you have to bring race into this?!?!? Cmon man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, wppete said: Why do you have to bring race into this?!?!? Cmon man.... Because I think it has something to do with it. I'm sorry if it makes you feel uncomfortable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Because I think it has something to do with it. I'm sorry if it makes you feel uncomfortable. @SDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, wppete said: @SDS Really? I didn't say anything offensive or wrong, was just my opinion on the matter. Lol. Is this like when you run to your parents because you dont like what someone else said? Really, what are you doing there? Edited January 11, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Lots of talk he wants to go to San Francisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: He tried to trip Jacoby Jones on a Thanksgiving night game, but was not successful. Like no one was watching and wouldn't see him stick his foot out from the sideline. Tomlin got a $100,000 fine for that. Embarrassing. Deserved a ban from the season with possible reinstatement at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Starr Almighty said: It's time for the Bills to sacrifice themselves and bring Brown in. I know he's not needed but he needs a job. Let's help him out. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: no I see both sides of it. I'm interested in how much money of that contract Pitt is eating. If it's the majority of it, I think you absolutely considering it. You'd have a number 1 cheap and the QB on a rookie contract and you can go after whoever or spend wherever after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: He's not a headcase, that's just the crap one of the most respected franchises are putting out there. AB, Bell headcases.... White rapist who crashed motorcycles... no problem there. The franchise is going to be garbage in 10 years. They're living in the past and their past accomplishments. That won't work with millenials. We don't care about that. Eh... he's absolutely needed. Our wide receivers are crap. hey Ray Lewis murdered someone so 2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I see both sides of it. I'm interested in how much money of that contract Pitt is eating. If it's the majority of it, I think you absolutely considering it. You'd have a number 1 cheap and the QB on a rookie contract and you can go after whoever or spend wherever after that McDermott wants football lifers, ab is not happening Edited January 11, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just watched this again and came away drooooling again. Go get this kid! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: hey Ray Lewis murdered someone so McDermott wants football lifers, ab is not happening I agree, I dont think ab is happening. I was just giving my opinion. I'd love the move. I know I'm in the minority and that's fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Just watched this again and came away drooooling again. Go get this kid! My top target. Young and cost controlled for 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Rooney just gave up some leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 hours ago, wppete said: I really want to bring him in badly but am very worried AB is a complete headcase and could spoil all the good that is happening in Buffalo. If we are that delicate, is what’s happening really that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: If we are that delicate, is what’s happening really that good? Poyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Niners Yup. No way they trade him within the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Just watched this again and came away drooooling again. Go get this kid! Oh hell yeah!!! And I thought Zay Jones highlight reel was good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Just watched this again and came away drooooling again. Go get this kid! I’ll admit I know next to nothing about this kid other than he’s fairly large and people have said he needs to run well this spring to solidify a high draft slot. My take away is that, while very valuable, speed can be overrated and I love this dude. Makes plays for his qb and makes up for what looks to be pedestrian field speed(he gets caught a couple times) with ELITE field vision. Sign me up. Edited January 11, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Love the highlights. But that...uh...music? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: I’ll admit I know next to nothing about this kid other than he’s fairly large and people have said he needs to run well this spring to solidify a high draft slot. My take away is that, while very valuable, speed can be overrated and I love this dude. Makes plays for his qb and makes up for what looks to be pedestrian field speed(he gets caught a couple times) with ELITE field vision. Sign me up. Yeah, and I’m not sure why people are concerned by his speed, he’s made several explosive plays to me. Love this kid and love Metcalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, and I’m not sure why people are concerned by his speed, he’s made several explosive plays to me. Love this kid and love Metcalf. I have unfortunately become a speed guy. Watching Kelvin Benjamin repeatedly will do that to a person. I think he's too slow. Mike Williams (USC) comes to mind. Great college player, however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/01/11/bills-mentioned-as-possible-trade-destination-for-antonio-brown-by-two/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 1:32 PM, whatdrought said: My dad, a Steelers fan, is in hard denial that the era of the 3 B's is over and with nothing to show. I know they don't fire coaches, but come on... How do you keep someone who can't produce with that much talent? Come on man, he has taken the Steelers to 2 SB, won 1, he has a regular season record of 131-71-1 career record, he's the winningest head coach based on win percentage with 68.8%, yeah he really blows. Marv Levy had 4 HOF players and won 0 SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 16 hours ago, wppete said: Why do you have to bring race into this?!?!? Cmon man.... He already told you.....because he's a millennial. The goal is no longer a 'colorblind society'. The goal is to slice and dice every situation through the perspective of race, no matter how irrelevant it is to the situation. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) As far as Antonio brown coming here I don't think it would be a good fit and I'm not saying that as a bitter Steelers/Bills fan, I'm saying it because the moment Josh Allen stops throwing him 15 targets a game he's going to go into a tirade, this has been his thing for awhile, he was good about his first contract and then was a diva ever since and yes he is an amazing player but he signed the contract, then they extended him now another tirade. I wouldn't want Brown anywhere near Josh Allen but that's just my opinion. Brown needs a veteran QB who will know how to force feed his diva WR and I don't think that's what Allen needs to be doing in year 2. Edited January 11, 2019 by BuffaloBillsGospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I have unfortunately become a speed guy. Watching Kelvin Benjamin repeatedly will do that to a person. I think he's too slow. Mike Williams (USC) comes to mind. Great college player, however. I agree, except he is a lot faster than KB was this season IMO. I am not sure what his actual speed is, but watching him he seems fast enough to me. For instance, Hopkins doesn’t have elite speed, neither did guys like Boldin, Marshall, Fitzgerald, etc. They aren’t slow, but also not burners. KB was so slow he should honestly think about converting to a TE with his size. But his ego will never let that happen I am sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I agree, except he is a lot faster than KB was this season IMO. I am not sure what his actual speed is, but watching him he seems fast enough to me. For instance, Hopkins doesn’t have elite speed, neither did guys like Boldin, Marshall, Fitzgerald, etc. They aren’t slow, but also not burners. KB was so slow he should honestly think about converting to a TE with his size. But his ego will never let that happen I am sure. KB is also likely a genuinely terrible in-line blocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I agree, except he is a lot faster than KB was this season IMO. I am not sure what his actual speed is, but watching him he seems fast enough to me. For instance, Hopkins doesn’t have elite speed, neither did guys like Boldin, Marshall, Fitzgerald, etc. They aren’t slow, but also not burners. KB was so slow he should honestly think about converting to a TE with his size. But his ego will never let that happen I am sure. Yes, they don't have to be the fastest IMO. It all comes down to route running ability and being able to get separation and get open. Speed helps but as long as they aren't as slow as KB is then I think they will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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