78thealltimegreat Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Going to miss Kyle was the heart and soul of the D but it does seem with where we will be drafting that Dexter Lawrence and Ed Oliver are a distinct possibility now...with taking care of our offensive needs coming in rounds 2,3,4 etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Going to miss Kyle was the heart and soul of the D but it does seem with where we will be drafting that Dexter Lawrence and Ed Oliver are a distinct possibility now...with taking care of our offensive needs coming in rounds 2,3,4 etc.. I think you're going to see most of our Offensive needs taken care of by Free Agency or Trade before the Draft. And you should never reach for someone based on need. So players like Ed Oliver were always on the table. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Possible, depending who's there at our pick. Lawrence will drop some with his failed drug test. I'm thinking pass rusher is more likely in rd1. Re-sign Jordan Phillips and draft Ricky Walker in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 It should have already been a possibility even before he announced his retirement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 All along, I've felt edge rusher is a significant need. Where the Bills will be picking, best value will likely be on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Would still be putting draft capital on Tolen Avery who played for the Liberty University Flames. Fifth or sixth round and would be good for being a Kyle Williams type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I guess next year will be a rebuild year also. Too many needs. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, nedboy7 said: I guess next year will be a rebuild year also. Too many needs. All teams have needs. All teams have holes. It was a rebuild because we had a rookie QB (and other roster purges). Stop with this nonsense. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I wouldn’t be surprised considering the talent level at DT in this draft. If we don’t trade down, I expect DL to be the pick based on being BPA. If we trade down, draft OL/WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: All teams have needs. All teams have holes. It was a rebuild because we had a rookie QB (and other roster purges). Stop with this nonsense. Yes. Its that simple. All teams have holes. That is the real nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I imagine we will aim to retain Jordan Phillips and increase Harry's usage. If there is a stud available we could take another DT but I don't think it will be their priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 DT was always a need but man Ed Oliver on Day 1 becomes our best player. I'd love for us to take him with our first pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemfield2622 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 i've believed DL was going to be the pick all along. this only reinforces it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think you're going to see most of our Offensive needs taken care of by Free Agency or Trade before the Draft. And you should never reach for someone based on need. So players like Ed Oliver were always on the table. I really think we will invest heavily on OL during free agency. It’s a good year to be a FA with all the teams out there with tons of cash to start the bidding wars! It is supposed to be a great DL draft, so let that fall into your laps. . Edited December 28, 2018 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I really think we will invest heavily on OL during free agency. It’s a good year to be a FA with all the teams out there with tons of cash to start the bidding wars! It is supposed to be a great DL draft, so let that fall into your laps. . ...typical Kyle to make the announcement now with plenty of time to plan ahead for draft & FA..... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Yes. Its that simple. All teams have holes. That is the real nonsense. This response is the real nonsense. And not like its a bad response. But literally it has no meaning. I have no idea what you are trying to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End The Drought Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 After the pats game I started to come around to the idea of revamping the DL room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Thank you K. Williams for always giving full effort and maintaining your level of excellence throughout your career. Made me proud as a Bills a fan. Regarding the draft, Bills should take the best player available. Don't reach for need and don't trade up. Seems like D-Line could be BPA in first round. Sign Jordan Phillips to reduce needs going into draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...typical Kyle to make the announcement now with plenty of time to plan ahead for draft & FA..... I thought it would come after Sunday, but I certainly don’t begrudge him announcing now. He certainly deserves a big send off. And you’re right, he’d never screw the team by being selfish about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, End The Drought said: After the pats game I started to come around to the idea of revamping the DL room There is a real perfect storm happening on DL so agree wholeheartedly. DT - Need one for sure, possibly 2. Kyle - Need a 3 technique given his retirement Star - OK as signed multiyear deal expires at end of 2022 Harrison Philips - 3 more years as signed 4 yeear deal as rookie Jordan Philips - FA this off season - OBD has to decide if they want him back DE - need one for sure, possibly 2. Lack of talent at end on one side and Jerry's age/contract make this a real issue. Jerry - Only signed through end of 2019 Shaq - One year left on rookie deal with Team option for 2020. Murphy - signed through 2020 but injury concerns an issue The other guys, Love, Yarborough are FAs after Miami game. In Rd 1 we could see OBD taking the other Josh Allen to ultimately replace Jerry and use him in a Zo type role next year. Or an Ed Oliver to replace Kyle. Kyle was a great player, great teammate and participant in the WNY community. Made everyoine he came in contact with better for knowing him! Edited December 28, 2018 by freddyjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think you're going to see most of our Offensive needs taken care of by Free Agency or Trade before the Draft. And you should never reach for someone based on need. So players like Ed Oliver were always on the table. It’s a long time between now with trades, free agency to tell about the draft, but they drafted Harrison Phillips for a reason. I still say we’re picking one of the top OT’s. Either the AL or FL guy based on draft as I doubt both will go before we pick, and could even see us moving up for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 It was already a probability. Kyle’s retirement makes it a guarantee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 52 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: I guess next year will be a rebuild year also. Too many needs. Uh nope....the plan was to win in 2019. Don’t be fooled in thinking next year is a rebuilding year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Uh nope....the plan was to win in 2019. Don’t be fooled in thinking next year is a rebuilding year The plan WAS to win? Has something changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueandRed Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 No. We are going offense in round 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 We need to sign Jordan Phillips to a long term deal ASAP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, wppete said: We need to sign Jordan Phillips to a long term deal ASAP As a starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 If the team resigns Jordan Phillips they have 3 solid DT's in Henry, Star, and Phillips. I think the team would be better off drafting a DT in the mid rounds to help rotate in and develop behind those 3. I think the departure of Kyle means Phillips becomes a must resign. So I think edge is a bigger priority considering Hughes will be 31, the jury is still out on Shaq, and Murphy is both older and comes with injury concerns. IF you resign J.Phillips you can address DT in round 4 and be comfortable. I think they go OT in round 1 but if they went D-line I wouldn't be too upset. The pass rush is decent but not spectacular so adding a top 10 pick that can add a prime pass rusher isn't a bad way to go considering the importance of a big time pass rush to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: As a starter? Rotation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 If they stay with their building ways from the Panthers, DT could easily be the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 If DT is BPA, then sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 30 minutes ago, BlueandRed said: No. We are going offense in round 1. Do you work at OBD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 If Ed Oliver is there at our pick...would not be surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Going to miss Kyle was the heart and soul of the D but it does seem with where we will be drafting that Dexter Lawrence and Ed Oliver are a distinct possibility now...with taking care of our offensive needs coming in rounds 2,3,4 etc.. Phillips and Phillips..Harrison and Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: I guess next year will be a rebuild year also. Too many needs. This is the rebuild. Next year is the reconstruction. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: As a starter? Rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 As long as they re-sign Jordan Phillips, the Bills still have a pretty good rotation on the D-Line. DT - Star Lotulelei, Harrison Phillips, Jordan Phillips DE - Jerry Hughes, Shaq Lawson, Trent Murphy Getting Lorenzo Alexander back for another season would also help, since he can slide into the rotation as an outside pass rusher. So if the Bills don't add another DT to replace Kyle Williams, it won't be the end of the world. However it does give them some justification (at least in the eyes of many fans who are dead-set on offense), if they decide to go that route in Round 1 instead. In the draft, it's always best to go with BPA regardless of position. You can't build a team with just "the next year" in mind. Like I've said before... This is the crucial year for Beane/McDermott's rebuilding plan. They have some strong cornerstones to build around. They have the resources available. Now it's about making the right decisions and obtaining the right players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Going to miss Kyle was the heart and soul of the D but it does seem with where we will be drafting that Dexter Lawrence and Ed Oliver are a distinct possibility now...with taking care of our offensive needs coming in rounds 2,3,4 etc.. It had better not be. It would be a terrible use of high first round pick. It's a lesson that should have been learned with the Dareus pick. As we proved this year, good DTs can be found cheaply in free agency or even on the waiver wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I think it was always a possibility ... no positions are off the table except QB. But, they could also sign a replacement in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The three techs at the top of this draft are game breakers. This was already the most likely course of action in my opinion. Harrison Phillips has been pretty disappointing. He is not the answer. Passing on one of these defensive guys to take a so so left tackle or reaching on a reciever is the worst way to run a draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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