Matt Barkley extended for two years

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Scott7975 said:

Hoyer was an undrafted FA.  You forgot Cassel!

Yup.  You keep bringing in players.  And Hoyer and Cassel, as limited as they are, are both spot starters and 10 year backup guys.  

[Scott7975]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yup.  You keep bringing in players.  And Hoyer and Cassel, as limited as they are, are both spot starters and 10 year backup guys.  

I agree, but I think timing has to be right.  For instance... this offense needs a lot of help and I wouldn't be using picks on a QB in the top 3 rounds.

[Victory Formation]

23 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Im fine with taking a qb every year.  If Allen doesn’t progress as a passer next year, I want a qb in the first the following year.  Never settle.

Even with Allen and Barkley we still need another arm for TC. Even if Allen becomes a HOF you still draft QB often. Maybe not with your money picks but you would hope eventually you land a nice QB later in the draft. I'd have no issues at all with spending a 7th on QB every year. Maybe we find a Cassel or a Brady. Either way you still need someone to run with the 3s.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Doc said:

 

They drafted Jimmy G that high because they didn't think Brady would still be there in 4 years.

But based on the position of qb, especially Bills one, shouldn’t we assume the same thing about Allen?  

 

And im not saying a 1st round pick.  But middle to late and/ or bringing in another vet.  I just say someone saying we have our Kelly/ Reich and hope the Bills don’t think like that.

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I agree, but I think timing has to be right.  For instance... this offense needs a lot of help and I wouldn't be using picks on a QB in the top 3 rounds.

I completely agree with that.  IMO, the first 3 picks need to be oline and receiver.

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

But based on the position of qb, especially Bills one, shouldn’t we assume the same thing about Allen? 

 

Assume...that since he's been in the league so long that he's playing on borrowed time?

[BarleyNY]

4 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

Even with Allen and Barkley we still need another arm for TC. Even if Allen becomes a HOF you still draft QB often. Maybe not with your money picks but you would hope eventually you land a nice QB later in the draft. I'd have no issues at all with spending a 7th on QB every year. Maybe we find a Cassel or a Brady. Either way you still need someone to run with the 3s.

 

Really need 4 QBs for TC.  One that will be expected to make the team and one that won’t, but will have a chance to prove himself and be insurance against injury at the position. 

[Warcodered]

Just now, BarleyNY said:

 

Really need 4 QBs for TC.  One that will be expected to make the team and one that won’t, but will have a chance to prove himself and be insurance against injury at the position. 

With as many recievers as they hopefully bring in they should need a camp arm.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Doc]

I'm surprised that we haven't heard contract numbers.

[C.Biscuit97]

On 12/23/2018 at 12:36 PM, Doc said:

 

Assume...that since he's been in the league so long that he's playing on borrowed time?

Assume that he probably won’t be a franchise qb 

 

onviously, I’m not super high on Allen but I think every team should assume that about every young qb.  Because odds are, they won’t be.

[Doc]

57 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Assume that he probably won’t be a franchise qb 

 

onviously, I’m not super high on Allen but I think every team should assume that about every young qb.  Because odds are, they won’t be.

 

No team drafts a QB in the 1st, much less high, and then drafts another high in the next few years.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Matt Barkley: "I Felt Right at Home Right When I First Got Here" (8:10)

Bills QB Matt Barkley joined One Bills Live and discussed his two-year extension, working with Josh Allen and how much he's enjoyed the area during his time in Buffalo.

[YoloinOhio]

On 12/23/2018 at 10:37 AM, NewDayBills said:

I would not mind a guy like like Brian Lewerke in the 7th round. We don't have to, but in the event we do add another QB I'd love to go there with our very last pick. Obviously we are in very good hands, once again, we don't have to but I would not mind an UDFA/6th/7th on a developmental prospect just to add to the mix.

I have no words for how bad Brian Lewerke is 

[Beast]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I have no words for how bad Brian Lewerke is 

 

You watched the “Red Box” Bowl too, huh?

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

You watched the “Red Box” Bowl too, huh?

The RedBox Bowl is basically every Sparty game. 

 

He’s so bad he made Ohio state’s defense look like world beaters 

Edited January 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio

[Punching Bag]

On 12/21/2018 at 3:14 PM, Kelly the Dog said:

You guys are going to regret this the next time he is asked to play close to a full game that counts.

 

If he needs to play close to a full game that counts of course we are going to regret it - it means our starting QB is hurt!

[Punching Bag]

On 12/21/2018 at 3:45 PM, Misterbluesky said:

For the life of me I don't understand what Beane is waiting for...he's our best dl against the run and he's consistant.It's a no brainer!

 

Maybe because player has no brain games?

Maybe agent has advised player to wait and look at other offers?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

On 12/22/2018 at 12:14 PM, Kelly the Dog said:

You don’t think Fitz is substantially better than Barkley?

I’ve seen a Fitz repeat rev same ? year after year. 

 

Ive not seen much of Barkley but putting up 40 on the JETS on the road was impressive with a week to prepare.  

[Misterbluesky]

4 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Maybe because player has no brain games?

Maybe agent has advised player to wait and look at other offers?

You're a smart ass.Money talks and we have it mister bravado.Get that foot better..you still sound miserable.

[Punching Bag]

On 12/22/2018 at 1:03 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

That win bumped his record up to 2-5.

 

and I’m completely biased but I think EJ is better than Barkley (and every stat and physical trait proved that).  But that would probably just create a qb controversy and we can’t have Allen deal with that pressure ?. (I’m kidding and know there is no way to bring EJ back here. But it’s joke he doesn’t have a job somewhere and Peterman does).

?

 

Peterman was qualified for a job EJ could not have - member of a practice squad.  EJ also would not make a good human jug machine for DBs.

[John from Riverside]

On 12/23/2018 at 9:24 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yup.  You keep bringing in players.  And Hoyer and Cassel, as limited as they are, are both spot starters and 10 year backup guys.  

C.

 

I might be misreading what you are saying and if so I apologize in advance.....but I want Josh Allen taking EVERY possible rep this next offseason and not sharing them in a "QB competitition"

 

Matt B. gives you a backup QB who doesnt need a lot of reps to get ready to hold a clipboard, provide some advice, and maybe give you 3 games a year where you hope a backup QB doesnt ***** the bed......which is really all you want your backup QB to do.

 

Josh Allen needs to be the focus now....everything else is just camp arms

[Seoulful Soul]

On 12/22/2018 at 4:14 AM, Kelly the Dog said:

You guys are going to regret this the next time he is asked to play close to a full game that counts.

 

I love Bills "fans" that continually throw shade on the team.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

15 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said:

 

I love Bills "fans" that continually throw shade on the team.

Some people just like to have something to complain about I guess 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

By Matt Warren Jan 5, 2019, 12:15pm EST BUFFALO RUMBLINGS

Here is the full breakdown of both of Barkley’s contracts with the Bills:
2018
Base salary: $418,235
Signing bonus: $200,000
Cap hit: $618,235
2019
Signing bonus: $200,000
Workout bonus: $250,000
Base salary: $1.25 million
Likely To Be Earned per-game roster bonus: $37,500
Cap hit: $1,737,500*
2020
Signing bonus: $200,000
Workout bonus: $250,000
Base salary: $1.5 million
Cap hit: $1.95 million**
* Will go up after 2019 season if he plays in more than 8 games
** Will be adjusted following 2019 season, adding in the games he was active in 2018.

 

 

McBeane paid a helluva lot more for McCarron with similar stats and years of experience....

The Bills announced their agreement with McCarron on Twitter.


On Thursday morning, ESPN.com's Mike Rodak reported that "McCarron's deal with Bills includes cap numbers of $3 million (2018) and $5.1 million (2019). He gets a $4 million signing bonus and a fully-guaranteed $900,000 base salary in 2018. He has a $3 million base salary in 2019, with $1.1 million guaranteed for injury only at signing that becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the league year. There are $100,000 workout bonuses each season, and not-likely-to-be-earned playing-time incentives up to $2 million (2018) and $2.5 million (2019). There is also a $2.5 escalator to his 2019 salary based on his 2018 playing time; if unearned, there are an additional $2.5 million in not-likely-to-be-earned playing-time incentives in 2019."

[YoloinOhio]

Great backup QB deal for Bills

[Heitz]

On 1/1/2019 at 6:54 AM, Seoulful Soul said:

 

I love Bills "fans" that continually throw shade on the team.

 

Pay attention to usernames, it’s like the same 5 - 10 posters with the same refrain ?

[nedboy7]

On 1/1/2019 at 6:54 AM, Seoulful Soul said:

 

I love Bills "fans" that continually throw shade on the team.

 

It's called having a different opinion than yours. 

You know the lost art of critical thinking?

How was he throwing shade?  He doesn't like the backup.  I do.  It's ok if he doesnt. 

Anyways you all should get back to bashing some ex Bills. 

That's what real fans do. 

 

[Hebert19]

Wow.  We have very little tied up in QBs.  More to spend elsewhere. 

[Kelly the Dog]

Shows how much he is worth.

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Shows how much he is worth.

 

Puts him at the 45th highest paid QB out of 90 QB contracts.

Midway thru the backup pay scale.

Which is about exactly what he is worth.

 

I don't see what the big deal is?

[Kelly the Dog]

2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Puts him at the 45th highest paid QB out of 90 QB contracts.

Midway thru the backup pay scale.

Which is about exactly what he is worth.

 

I don't see what the big deal is?

1.5 m a year for a 5 year vet QB is extremely low. There is no getting around that. It's a great deal for the Bills if they want him, and a great deal for Barkley because 1.5m versus not being in the league is great. But if you can get away with paying a veteran QB 3m for 2 years he is not very well thought of on the open market at all.

Edited January 6, 2019 by Kelly the Dog

[RocCityRoller]

On 12/31/2018 at 8:22 PM, John from Riverside said:

C.

 

I might be misreading what you are saying and if so I apologize in advance.....but I want Josh Allen taking EVERY possible rep this next offseason and not sharing them in a "QB competitition"

 

Matt B. gives you a backup QB who doesnt need a lot of reps to get ready to hold a clipboard, provide some advice, and maybe give you 3 games a year where you hope a backup QB doesnt ***** the bed......which is really all you want your backup QB to do.

 

Josh Allen needs to be the focus now....everything else is just camp arms

 

camp arms and QB room player-coaches

[Estro]

A great deal for Barkley....too.  is highest earning year was his first year when he made 900k, since then hes heem making between 300-800k a year.  Now hes set to make over $3.5M between last year and this upcoming year, far and away the highest earning years of his career.  If he sees the entirety of the 2 year deal the Bill's just doubled his career earnings.  Good for him!

[Doc]

3 hours ago, Estro said:

A great deal for Barkley....too.  is highest earning year was his first year when he made 900k, since then hes heem making between 300-800k a year.  Now hes set to make over $3.5M between last year and this upcoming year, far and away the highest earning years of his career.  If he sees the entirety of the 2 year deal the Bill's just doubled his career earnings.  Good for him!

 

True, but for the Bills it's just a 2-year $4M deal with just $600K in signing bonus.  Great deal for the Bills for a backup QB.

[Seoulful Soul]

9 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

 

It's called having a different opinion than yours. 

You know the lost art of critical thinking?

How was he throwing shade?  He doesn't like the backup.  I do.  It's ok if he doesnt. 

Anyways you all should get back to bashing some ex Bills. 

That's what real fans do. 

 

 

How does it feel to always put yourself on the self-righteous indignation cross？

[Ol Dirty B]

On 12/21/2018 at 3:29 PM, Kelly the Dog said:

"You guys" are everyone who thinks this is a good move because of what he showed in his one game, and not in his entire career of crappiness and getting cut seven times. He's just like Peterman, only slightly smarter.

 

We're all in this together wanting the Bills to win. I don't think this helps them in the long run to win, he's not good enough to win half his games if you need him for a long stretch if your starter goes down.

 

He had the best game of his career, and I was absolutely thrilled with it, but he has been on six teams for a reason; he's not good enough. And he didn't show in that one game that his death knell doesn't exist.

 

Eh... Peterman is like the worst QB ever. As hyperbolic as that sounds, it isn't. It doesn't take much to be much better than Peterman.

 

So he's not really, just like Peterman. It's the back up QB. I get the going .500 point, but what team other than the eagles have had sustained success due to their back up?

 

You're making mountains out of mole hills.

[Nextmanup]

On 12/21/2018 at 3:08 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Excellent move

Yes.  When I think of a solid veteran QB master who can teach the game to Josh Allen, the name "Matt Barkley" practically jumps out of my mouth.

 

[Doc]

6 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Yes.  When I think of a solid veteran QB master who can teach the game to Josh Allen, the name "Matt Barkley" practically jumps out of my mouth.

 

 

He's not the one in that role.  Anderson is.

[Scott7975]

19 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

By Matt Warren Jan 5, 2019, 12:15pm EST BUFFALO RUMBLINGS

Here is the full breakdown of both of Barkley’s contracts with the Bills:
2018
Base salary: $418,235
Signing bonus: $200,000
Cap hit: $618,235
2019
Signing bonus: $200,000
Workout bonus: $250,000
Base salary: $1.25 million
Likely To Be Earned per-game roster bonus: $37,500
Cap hit: $1,737,500*
2020
Signing bonus: $200,000
Workout bonus: $250,000
Base salary: $1.5 million
Cap hit: $1.95 million**
* Will go up after 2019 season if he plays in more than 8 games
** Will be adjusted following 2019 season, adding in the games he was active in 2018.

 

 

McBeane paid a helluva lot more for McCarron with similar stats and years of experience....

The Bills announced their agreement with McCarron on Twitter.


On Thursday morning, ESPN.com's Mike Rodak reported that "McCarron's deal with Bills includes cap numbers of $3 million (2018) and $5.1 million (2019). He gets a $4 million signing bonus and a fully-guaranteed $900,000 base salary in 2018. He has a $3 million base salary in 2019, with $1.1 million guaranteed for injury only at signing that becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the league year. There are $100,000 workout bonuses each season, and not-likely-to-be-earned playing-time incentives up to $2 million (2018) and $2.5 million (2019). There is also a $2.5 escalator to his 2019 salary based on his 2018 playing time; if unearned, there are an additional $2.5 million in not-likely-to-be-earned playing-time incentives in 2019."

That's dirt cheap for a backup QB nowadays.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 12/21/2018 at 3:18 PM, HappyDays said:

 

I don't think I will ever regret it if a backup QB loses a game. If the starter goes down you're not likely to win. What's the problem with Barkley? He is more than a capable backup.

 

"Howie Roseman for you on line two, Mr Days"

 

Seems these days most teams carry 2 QB on the roster plus maybe one stashed on the practice squad.  Looks like the Bills are providing Josh Allen with a pair of training wheels, two backups  -  one of whom for age and durability reasons may be more mentor or player/coach than backup.  But they both count against the 53 man roster.

 

This isn't a critique of the move, just a commentary that it does have its downside.