Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Its all stupid. Weed shouldn't be illegal in sports. So many players use it for pain management. Instead they prescribe pain killers that players get addicted to. https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-originals/video/tsn-original-legalized-part-1~1514729 Really interesting video to watch. I believe its a 3 or 4 part series. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Seasons1992 said: I hope the young man quits football for good, and gets right in his personal life. Kinda like Aaron Maybin did. Side note: If we relentlessly blitz this week, I could see us winning. I too hope for his own good he can rid himself of this demon. But, I don't recall Aaron Maybin having an addiction problem? Did I miss that? His problem was an ability problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Or the millions he has is making it harder to stop. Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 You guys are all finger pointers. If you had to face Tre White a week after you were shut down by Coty freaking Sensabaugh you would be drinking too. Admit it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 There are actually things bigger then football I hope Josh Gordon finds his way......as someone who deals with this on a personal level (not me) and a professional level.........the ability to "not be able to say no" is a real thing. Good luck Josh 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 LOL at some of these bleeding hearts. He's a rich TMZ celebrity that trashed houses with Manziel. Football has been secondary to him for years. His statement was pre-emptive damage control and nothing else. Guarantee Gordon is more likely to be seen clubbing it up in South Beach than at a rehabilitation center anytime soon. Don't be a sucker. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) He should have just joined this board and posted something like "What's your definition of Mental Health?" Just to be sure... Edited December 20, 2018 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: good for him to recognize these things..i think . Long life in front of this guy, football is a blip. pretty sure his lawyers, manager ,et. al are involved in this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your situation isn't his. Exactly, I dont have close to the incentive/opportunity/resources he does. Other drugs I understand, but its time to stop giving passes to people out of pity. Dude is an adult and its time to accept responsibility. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: Wrong, over the last 10 years i probably havent smoked 20 days total and had no reason to stop. Until I started looking for a new job, my current/next job wont pay jack, especially compared to his opportunity. Was it 4 failed tests in 5 years? He just sounds like a mentally weak person with no will power or ability to recognize what an opportunity he has been given. Spoken by a weed "addict" with 0 will power. Ok, you might not be wrong, he might be a mentally weak person....but with the information we know for sure, there is no way to tell that. Truth is, everyone is different. Everyone's mind is different. For some people it is easier to lose weight than others. Some people are artistic, some are analytic. Some people have the mental 'ability' (how their brain is wired) to do some things better than others. It is not a 'choice', I don't know of anyone that chooses to have artistic ability over being good with numbers. The same can be said for how easy it is to quit an addiction. Mentally weak? as I said before, he just might be..and he might be looking for excuses. But there is no way to know that..it is just as likely that how is brain is 'wired' makes him better at some things than you, but makes it harder to quit addictions. People have to learn to step outside of their own experiences and realize that not everyone has the same abilities and everyone's brain doesn't work the same way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Azucho98 said: Josh Gordon is a loser. Period. I didn't say anything about him fighting and addiction problem....you did. That dude is all over the place. He also gave Kareem Hunt the benefit of the doubt. His hero worship clouds the fact that some of these rich, entitled children may actually be scumbags. Edited December 20, 2018 by Nelius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I wish him the best, but he (and reps) have had years to address this. For all those who clamored for the Bills to sign him, this is why i disagreed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: Exactly, I dont have close to the incentive/opportunity/resources he does. Other drugs I understand, but its time to stop giving passes to people out of pity. Dude is an adult and its time to accept responsibility. Your ignorance about addiction is stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, elroy16 said: These are such misguided posts. You can become addicted to almost anything. People become addicted to shopping, gambling, working out, gaming, or whatever else. Just because something isn't "addicting" doesn't mean someone can't develop an addiction. Hear about the dude who stabbed an old lady outside of Walmart to get money to pay his gym fees because he was addicted to working out? Yeah, I didn’t hear about that either. How about the guy who sold his body behind Denny’s to get money to buy marijuana? Nope, never heard about that. Get real.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, mjd1001 said: Ok, you might not be wrong, he might be a mentally weak person....but with the information we know for sure, there is no way to tell that. Truth is, everyone is different. Everyone's mind is different. For some people it is easier to lose weight than others. Some people are artistic, some are analytic. Some people have the mental 'ability' (how their brain is wired) to do some things better than others. It is not a 'choice', I don't know of anyone that chooses to have artistic ability over being good with numbers. The same can be said for how easy it is to quit an addiction. Mentally weak? as I said before, he just might be..and he might be looking for excuses. But there is no way to know that..it is just as likely that how is brain is 'wired' makes him better at some things than you, but makes it harder to quit addictions. People have to learn to step outside of their own experiences and realize that not everyone has the same abilities and everyone's brain doesn't work the same way. True, and I fully believe people shouldnt judge without knowing the entire story. Ive bit my nails for 28 years, smoked tobacco for 8. Everyone has their own situation and vices but gd weed is the only thing hes been busted for. Cant think of a justifiable excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hear about the dude who stabbed an old lady outside of Walmart to get money to pay his gym fees because he was addicted to working out? Yeah, I didn’t hear about that either. How about the guy who sold his body behind Denny’s to get money to buy marijuana? Nope, never heard about that. Get real.... jfc So you either have to resort to violence to officially be addicted to some or it doesn't count? Have you seriously never watched intervention or heard of a story about someone ignoring their family or responsibilities and ruining their life because they're addicted to a gambling or videogames? I guess lack of empathy makes it difficult to understand what some people go through. It's pretty common, so I shouldn't be too annoyed or surprised with dumbass thoughts like this. Edited December 20, 2018 by elroy16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: Exactly, I dont have close to the incentive/opportunity/resources he does. Other drugs I understand, but its time to stop giving passes to people out of pity. Dude is an adult and its time to accept responsibility. Why is it so impossible for people to understand that he may just be incredibly selfish and undisciplined and chose to smoke and/or drink, got caught, and is now playing damage control? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me six times, and I'm an idiot. It's entirely possible that some of these guys don't want/care to stop, and that may be more so due to entitlement, celebrity, and money than some hardcore addiction... Edited December 20, 2018 by Nelius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your ignorance about addiction is stunning. See you cant separate the two paths here. If I can quit weed so can he, I cant speak on other situations which are much more serious. But his 5 failed tests in the pros and 2 in college is because of herbs. No excuse whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hear about the dude who stabbed an old lady outside of Walmart to get money to pay his gym fees because he was addicted to working out? Yeah, I didn’t hear about that either. How about the guy who sold his body behind Denny’s to get money to buy marijuana? Nope, never heard about that. Get real.... I was watching the local news a couple weeks ago and they had a segment on how the ingredients in pizza are addicting!!!! I wanted to throw my TV out the window. Reminds me of a time we ordered a couple pizzas. Each time my cousin opened the box to get another piece he would pull the pizza apart and take the biggest slice that was left. After 3 or 4 times my I curiously asked why not just take the next piece? I only like the big pieces was his response, so now he is known as the size queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffaloboyinATL Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: life isn't going to be long for him if he can't straiten out. it's tragic, and I can't help but wonder if he had gotten some mental health help earlier in his life if this all couldnt have been avoided If it is truly just a weed problem, I know plenty of people who have very successful careers and are daily weed users as well. They just don't work in an industry that tests for it. I get the feeling with Gordon that it is a bit more than a desire to get high daily that is the problem. Although, not being able to stop, even when it jeopardizes yips livelihood, is concerning in and of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: that said, sign him to a future’s contract! Our “culture” will get him back on track. While I recognize the sarcasm here, the reality is that in Gordon's world of employment, the Bills' 'culture' would provide him a much more successful path to getting back on track than the one he is leaving. They knew his problem, but played him anyway. They don't care about Gordon any more than they care when the McRib comes back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 That was pure genius by Belicheat to trade away Brandin Cooks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 'Member when all those people said the Bills were stupid for not bringing him in? I 'member. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, elroy16 said: jfc So you either have to resort to violence to officially be addicted to some or it doesn't count? Have you seriously never watched intervention or heard of a story about someone ignoring their family or responsibilities and ruining their life because they're addicted to a gambling or videogames? I guess lack of empathy makes it difficult to understand what some people go through. It's pretty common, so I shouldn't be too annoyed or surprised with dumbass thoughts like this. Yes. You need to be addicted to something pretty serious for it to impact you enough to lose your job. If you lose your job because you’re “addicted” to solely marijuana...you’re actually an irresponsible *****. Same goes with shopping, working out, and all the other frivolous “addictions” folks use to make excuses for their poor choices in life. It’s a bunch of crap. Edited December 20, 2018 by Johnny Hammersticks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan130 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That was pure genius by Belicheat to trade away Brandin Cooks. Lol ya I still don't understand that trade at all. You think you would want to maximise the talent on the team given Brady`s short window remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Justin Blackmon type ban coming. Indefinitely...likely career ending. I feel sorry for the man here. Alcoholism is a mental health disease per the AMA. His addictions (Alcohol, weed, other substances) are in control of his life. And being "on stage" in the NFL is not an easy place to work them out. Don't like the behavior but respect the man. He's not a bad or "weak" person, just a person with an illness trying to get better. God's speed Josh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That was pure genius by Belicheat to trade away Brandin Cooks. And showed even more genius by picking up Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm with you. Weed is not an addiction, it's a will power issue. I've been stopping/starting when I need to for decades. Now that I have degrees and a career, I'm all about daily rides on the MJ train. I've also earned it. If I needed to stop tomorrow, I would, and could. The worst thing that happens after you stop is that your dreams become so vivid for a few weeks that you may roll out of bed. The horror! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: While I recognize the sarcasm here, the reality is that in Gordon's world of employment, the Bills' 'culture' would provide him a much more successful path to getting back on track than the one he is leaving. They knew his problem, but played him anyway. They don't care about Gordon any more than they care when the McRib comes back. Which NFL organization cares about players? And which players care about their organizations? Loyalty in professional sports is long gone. It's all about the Benjamins (except Kelvin. ***** him). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I saw so many Pats fans on the internet use the way he’s played the past month to further ridicule Cleveland, and talk about him being saved because of being in a “real” team and the “Patriot Way.” Hard not to see this news and be glad to see those fools humbled. But it’s even harder not to feel bad for Gordon. Not sure what happened, but if it’s related to addiction, that thing is the devil. I will hope for the best for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Lol ya I still don't understand that trade at all. You think you would want to maximise the talent on the team given Brady`s short window remaining. They didn’t want to pay him. But this year was the last year of his rookie deal, and they should have kept him. They don’t like to pay WRs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Gordon's a big loss for them and the only thing close to a #1 WR they had. Patterson, Dorsett and Hogan are all JAGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 In fairness, how could the Pats have known?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, jr1 said: he can't stop even when millions are on the line That's how you know it's a REAL problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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