Freddie's Dead Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 ***** him, ***** ToG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, teef said: i don't understand why some would rather complain than look at the reality of the situation. It's like paying $50,000 for a Toyota Corrolla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's like paying $50,000 for a Toyota Corrolla. does it come with a captain's hat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The biggest shame is Marcell Dareus has Aaron Donald type of ability if he really wanted it. Say what?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 he didn't practice today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, teef said: does it come with a captain's hat? Mounted on the hood. Of course a giant spoiler in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: They easily replaced him with Jordan Phillips off the waiver wire. A year later and after they had paid Star $10M per for the next 5...........and fwiw they are 7-13 since trading Dareus and eating all that dead money. I have always appreciated Jordan Phillips........he was tough on the Bills as a phin..........but he's probably just playing so much better because he's highly motivated and well rested..........it will be interesting to see if the Bills pay him in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 He returning to the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: A role no one should get paid nearly 16 million dollars a year to play. Money like that should be reserved for penetrating defensive tackles and defensive ends. But he was a penetrating D tackle. 10 sacks. That is why we signed him big. We had to. A lot of DTs mail it in after their second contract. See Albert Haynesworth and other DTs signed by the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I know I'm in the minority, here, but I believe that Dareus earned every penny he made whilst in Buffalo. I’m somewhat in the camp that thinks nobody on those drought rosters earned their ‘pennies’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I really hope he gets caught at like 2am in Buffalo Saturday night eating a garbage plate and 2 dozen wings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 'Marcell Dareus Returns this Week' Is he driving? Keep the women and the kids and the Chevys off the streets! Anyone else find find it odd that he got in trouble for drag racing his Jaguar while in Buffalo, and now he IS a Jaguar? 49 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's like paying $50,000 for a Toyota Corrolla. They're more reliable... 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: Rehab If that's Isaac from the 'Love Boat' , he better switch to club soda. Edited November 20, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, keepthefaith said: It appears he's been a better soldier in Jacksonville than he was in Buffalo. Was he a soldier here or a malingerer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The biggest shame is Marcell Dareus has Aaron Donald type of ability if he really wanted it. He never possessed the off the charts combination of athleticism, strength, and explosiveness to have Aaron Donald type of ability. That’s not a knock on Dareus, but a testament to Donald’s rarity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: He never possessed the off the charts combination of athleticism, strength, and explosiveness to have Aaron Donald type of ability. That’s not a knock on Dareus, but a testament to Donald’s rarity. You’re right. He doesn’t have the explosion that Donald has. But in 2014, he looked like one of the best DTs in the nfl with 10 sacks. DTs, minus Donald, rarely get that many sacks. I always put Dareus in the category of a guy who plays football because he was good at it but he didn’t love it. Donald seems like he love football and will do whatever he can to be awesome at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, K-9 said: He never possessed the off the charts combination of athleticism, strength, and explosiveness to have Aaron Donald type of ability. That’s not a knock on Dareus, but a testament to Donald’s rarity. He had a lot of the traits of Donald in a much bigger/stronger frame. Dareus was a big DT with the athleticism to play DE in the NFL. The problem was that he could get away with being overweight when he was in his early 20's.........once you peak athletically you gotta' take better care to get the same results.........he ceased doing that and is now just a very overweight but effective run defender. Let's face it though..........the changes McD made were all really just to buy himself more time..........the guys he let go have basically all gone on and made a big difference for their new teams............the trades were about identifying those who would blindly follow and those that would not. McD had no pedigree and he feared not being able to prove himself before the team lost confidence in him..........so he got rid of the guys he thought would be the first to question him. 17 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You’re right. He doesn’t have the explosion that Donald has. But in 2014, he looked like one of the best DTs in the nfl with 10 sacks. DTs, minus Donald, rarely get that many sacks. I always put Dareus in the category of a guy who plays football because he was good at it but he didn’t love it. Donald seems like he love football and will do whatever he can to be awesome at it. I started a draft Donald thread leading up to that draft(and I rarely start threads). There was virtually zero interest in drafting Donald here on TSW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Let's face it though..........the changes McD made were all really just to buy himself more time..........the guys he let go have basically all gone on and made a big difference for their new teams............the trades were about identifying those who would blindly follow and those that would not. McD had no pedigree and he feared not being able to prove himself before the team lost confidence in him..........so he got rid of the guys he thought would be the first to question him. Classic -- and I haven't even started drinking yet. Glad you're around when I need a good laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's like paying $50,000 for a Toyota Corrolla. More 100,000 for a Lexus with a bad motor that spends most of its time in the shop and when it's not rarely runs better than the Toyota corrolla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, eball said: Classic -- and I haven't even started drinking yet. Glad you're around when I need a good laugh. I know.......that's why I say "before 5pm @eball's takes are wrong........and after 5pm it's the liquor talkin'". You should've waited an hour instead of exposing your distrust of the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You’re right. He doesn’t have the explosion that Donald has. But in 2014, he looked like one of the best DTs in the nfl with 10 sacks. DTs, minus Donald, rarely get that many sacks. I always put Dareus in the category of a guy who plays football because he was good at it but he didn’t love it. Donald seems like he love football and will do whatever he can to be awesome at it. Though in 2014 he had jerry on one side and a motivated Mario on the other. Made his job of falling on what came up the middle easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 People here are still crying about a $100m player who is on the sidelines for 40% of his team's snaps? Hilarious. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, KD in CA said: People here are still crying about a $100m player who is on the sidelines for 40% of his team's snaps? Hilarious. I haven't checked but I'd be surprised if Dareus plays 60% of his teams snaps. He's a lot better pass rusher than Star(I think the $10M Star only saw a dozen snaps in one game this season) but run stuffers aren't in all that much demand right now. Bills had to bite the bullet on Star AND eat Dareus dead money because they found out their run defense was incredibly bad without Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: I haven't checked but I'd be surprised if Dareus plays 60% of his teams snaps. He's a lot better pass rusher than Star(I think the $10M Star only saw a dozen snaps in one game this season) but run stuffers aren't in all that much demand right now. Bills had to bite the bullet on Star AND eat Dareus dead money because they found out their run defense was incredibly bad without Dareus. Yep. And they are better off for it. Dareus was a human cancer. I doubt his Instagram was ever hacked, honestly. He probably was just faded on spice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I haven't checked but I'd be surprised if Dareus plays 60% of his teams snaps. He's a lot better pass rusher than Star(I think the $10M Star only saw a dozen snaps in one game this season) but run stuffers aren't in all that much demand right now. Bills had to bite the bullet on Star AND eat Dareus dead money because they found out their run defense was incredibly bad without Dareus. Yes, they took a double hit this year but they were rebuilding anyway and in 2019 Dareus is off the books (or so I've read). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 hours ago, MJS said: Mr. Big Blubber. ...Haynesworth II...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Yep. And they are better off for it. Dareus was a human cancer. I doubt his Instagram was ever hacked, honestly. He probably was just faded on spice. Nah......they were 5-2 with him and 7-13 since..........cancer was a misdiagnosis...........he's more like a large, well-liked benign tumor on the bicep of that defense that made the entire group play better. I'm guessing the next stage of this debate though will be when the Bills pass on re-signing Jordan Phillips because of the bloated Star contract. DT is a sneaky need position if Phillips isn't re-signed. Even if KW returns. Edited November 20, 2018 by BADOLBILZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 54 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I started a draft Donald thread leading up to that draft(and I rarely start threads). There was virtually zero interest in drafting Donald here on TSW. I took him in my one and only Fanspeak mock that year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 6 hours ago, uticaclub said: Trading Dareus for a 5th for the biggest mistake this regime has made. For his dead cap & Stars contract, we should have just kept the more talent Dareus Disagree- he wasnt playing up to his contract and it was handcuffing this new regime. 91 mil and 10 draft picks next year will make us all forget the collosal mistake Whaley made by overpaying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Nah......they were 5-2 with him and 7-13 since..........cancer was a misdiagnosis...........he's more like a large, well-liked benign tumor on the bicep of that defense that made the entire group play better. I'm guessing the next stage of this debate though will be when the Bills pass on re-signing Jordan Phillips because of the bloated Star contract. DT is a sneaky need position if Phillips isn't re-signed. Even if KW returns. They should absolutely pay Phillips. Probably gonna take something in the 6-7 mil a year range. I don't know what to make of Harrison Phillips. He hasn't played particularly well. He seems to get a lot of love because he was billed as the next "KW." J Phillips has the talent to make big plays. He hasn't made a ton, but the ability is there. Space eaters are less and less relevant in today's NFL. If they don't re-sign him, I'm sure many posters will extol the virtue of Beane's shrewdness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Disagree- he wasnt playing up to his contract and it was handcuffing this new regime. 91 mil and 10 draft picks next year will make us all forget the collosal mistake Whaley made by overpaying him. You don't think we are going to have to overpay for players to come to play for one of the worse offenses of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: 'Marcell Dareus Returns this Week' Is he driving? Keep the women and the kids and the Chevys off the streets! Anyone else find find it odd that he got in trouble for drag racing his Jaguar while in Buffalo, and now he IS a Jaguar? They're more reliable... If that's Isaac from the 'Love Boat' , he better switch to club soda. He just finished the new pilot for Gilligan's island.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I don't know what to make of Harrison Phillips. He hasn't played particularly well. You're not paying attention. or you are, and just can't bring yourself to be honest about Beane's drafting. One of the two. Edited November 20, 2018 by Joe in Winslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: You're not paying attention. or you are, and just can't bring yourself to be honest about Beane's drafting. One of the two. Ridiculous. I've been as high as anyone on Wyatt Teller, Taron Johnson, Matt Milano etc. Harrison Phillips does not look like he's gonna be some third round steal. He looks average. If you're seeing amazing performances from Phillips, perhaps you're watching a different game. He'll be a rotational guy going forward. Probably not much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Marcell is coming to town? Hide your weed, everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, uticaclub said: You don't think we are going to have to overpay for players to come to play for one of the worse offenses of all time If josh Allen shows some development then it will help bringing players in. Historically, you are right, the Bills have overpaid for players. Lets hope we can sell it to some good FA’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Anyone know what he weighed when he was here and what the number is now? Happy to see his big as* and big paycheck go. He was listed at a conservative 331 on the Jags site...toss him a beer and you may be able to round that up to 345 or so. Darius was every bit a rare talent in regards to size, speed, and ability to be disruptive when he was drafted. Lost his way, not sure if it was losing family that had helped to keep him grounded, or just the net effect of NFL $$$, but the stupid was starting to outweigh the investment. The work ethic faded and he left a coach who was trying to create a culture of accountability with few options when disciplinary team actions were not having an effect. He can still be a load to handle, and all the natural ability one could ask for if he could get his s**t together. I don't hate on Darius, and hope he does right the ship - just not against my Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: If josh Allen shows some development then it will help bringing players in. Historically, you are right, the Bills have overpaid for players. Lets hope we can sell it to some good FA’s. High taxes, no QB in a small market isn't a good recipe to attract top talent, I really hope Allen shows promise and McDermott can make us a contender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Gugny said: I know I'm in the minority, here, but I believe that Dareus earned every penny he made whilst in Buffalo. Well.....this is simply preposterous!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Nah......they were 5-2 with him and 7-13 since.......... Yes.... that was clearly the Dareus effect! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, uticaclub said: High taxes, no QB in a small market isn't a good recipe to attract top talent, I really hope Allen shows promise and McDermott can make us a contender Housing has gone up also- but overall cost of living is still cheaper than 1/2 of the league. Im with you- lets just hope all the stars align. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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