26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 How Will Rams-Chiefs Impact the Future of the NFL? Monday night's game between the Rams and Chiefs marked a pivotal moment for the NFL. As a result, expect many teams to make major changes this offseason. When something operates at the pace of an AAU basketball game between tireless children, there may not have been enough stoppage time to recognize the strength and direction of the undercurrent surging beneath. Football, after years of being chopped up, hacked into pieces, broken down and frantically welded together, was officially remade on Monday night. And it’s never going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 let's all hope he's wrong. Because that's the kind of product I want no part of. It's OK to score. It's NOT ok to allow the other guy to score like that. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: let's all hope he's wrong. Because that's the kind of product I want no part of. It's OK to score. It's NOT ok to allow the other guy to score like that. I’d rather have a good offense with a good defense than a great offense and below average defense. More balanced is better sustainable for success IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: let's all hope he's wrong. Because that's the kind of product I want no part of. It's OK to score. It's NOT ok to allow the other guy to score like that. Right. Games like that can be fun as a once a year thing. When we watch a game like that you get the feeling that the last team with the ball wins. I get enough of that from the NBA. It makes the first 3 quarters of the game less interesting. If that was the norm I’d probably just watch the Bills games and not much else. I don’t find guys running wide open and catching passes interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 It’s exactly what the NFL wants to become. I’d bet money that Roger Goodell climaxed several times during that game. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 We did have both defenses make plays last night that were a big part of the story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: We did have both defenses make plays last night that were a big part of the story. Those are the kinds of defenses the league wants - ones that allow a lot of exciting plays and scoring but also make impactful, exciting plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Everyone is going bonkers over last night's game and I don't understand it. Yes, big plays and scoring are exciting but it waters down the product. How am I supposed to get excited over a 60 yard bomb when it seems to happen every drive? What makes football exciting to me is the build up to a big play, a back and forth chess match between offense and defense. Where each yard on offense is earned, not given. Where big time players rise up to the occasion and make a spectacular play to win their team the game. Last night's game was just a back and forth scorefest that ended with a anticlimactic ending. Defense means nothing and everyone scores at will, the team that loses is the team that gets the ball last without enough time on the clock. It's just a random way to end a game and I don't understand why people enjoy it. Im 31 years old and I sound like a grandpa here, but this new age football just doesn't do it for me. 17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Missed the game, but after I saw the final score, I had ZERO remorse for not being able to watch it. Welcome to Arena Football I guess... we all knew this was eventually coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I’d rather have a good offense with a good defense than a great offense and below average defense. More balanced is better sustainable for success IMO. KC is proving that's not the case. Anyway, all this pearl clutching over this game already? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 IMO, the game illustrates the "Brandon Spikes" problem that plagues the modern NFL defensive schemes. They are all (including Wade Phillips) concocting defenses for an NFL that's on its way out. I was surprised at how easily gashed the Wade Phillips defense was last night, personally. Last night was essentially the Maginot Line versus German armor in World War II. A defense brilliantly designed for combat of the past up against the combat of the future. The defensive mindset has to adapt to what you saw on your televisions last night. No more linebackers. No more zone coverage. No more lining up your four pass rushers on the line of scrimmage. Somebody will come up with something radical to countermeasure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: KC is proving that's not the case. Anyway, all this pearl clutching over this game already? How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Games like last night is why I don't watch college ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) I’m still sticking by my story, some NFL execs sat around watching Big 12 football and thought it would be a great idea for their own product. Would anyone like this as the norm? Maybe we need a poll. I’m interested in what that would look like. Edited November 20, 2018 by Commonsense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 In Buffalo...you’ve watched the Bills for basically these reasons. - Fear of them moving - Nostalgia/Born into you - Beer/Friends Party very rarely is the reason to watch and/or go to the game for Quality Exicting Entertainment. It’s more Obligation to go because when you were 7 your dad took you to your first game and yeah we all have that story. but game like last night. Are the type or games that actually justify you to go that aren’t related to some deeply ingrained Social Regional responsibility of being a WNYer. And frankly I am disappointed to see Bills fans want to poo poo the MNF Game and its implications for the future. the Bills as a whole have been a garbage franchise. BUT there bright spot, historic spot in the history of the NFL was when they ran the K Gun. A no huddle attack. the K Gun. let me ask...what the defenses historic nickname? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 People don't want college scores to become the norm in the NFL, no matter how hard they try to make it happen. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 One of those games a year is fine, but it’s not the kind of football I enjoy watching. Gimme 31-28 over that show last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 One thing that is a significant change are the weather conditions that teams play in. With more domed stadiums, it seems that weather, at times the great equalizer, is becoming less of a factor. Poor weather conditions, particularly cold and snow, typically had more of a negative impact on offenses than defenses, and we are seeing fewer games being played in these conditions. The Bills defense has played well this year, but thank goodness we did not have to play the Saints, the Chiefs, the Steelers or the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Commonsense said: I’m still sticking by my story, some NFL execs sat around watching Big 12 football and thought it would be a great idea for their own product. Would anyone like this as the norm? Maybe we need a poll. I’m interested in what that would look like. You're 100% correct. Last night was a college football game. Personally feel like it waters down the product. With the salary cap it will lead to more superstar two year NBA type teams. Which means you will have 2-3 teams with a legitimate shot and 17 weeks of football where 29 other teams are just going through the motions. Honestly, why bother rushing the passer at this point? You may as well just draft all corners and safeties with speed, drop 10 and put a spy on the QB. Edited November 20, 2018 by thenorthremembers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Let's just say it: If the Bills were 54-51 winners last night, most of you haters would be LOVING this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How so? Excellent offense. Bad defense. No balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: We did have both defenses make plays last night that were a big part of the story. Not ENOUGH plays, apparently, as the score was a record one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I would rather not watch NFL games that end with scores similar to a Big 10 baseketball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) Rules tend to favor the offense at the moment - defenses will figure it out. Tyreke hill is a rare dude in that he has tremendous speed, and is an impossible mismatch. He might be the best offensive weapon in the NFL, and has caused absolute havoc for defenses. Throw in Kelce who is a size/athletic mismatch, and Hill who is a pretty solid dynamic back. Watkins foot injury seems to be popping up right around the time it always pops up though... This might be the thing that maybe holds them back from getting out of the AFC. The Rams have the best O-line in football at the moment, the best running back in the NFL, and a ton of weapons. Having the best offensive coach in the game only makes this that much more apparent. If they can get their defense to get more stops they should be the best in the league. This was just a game of two incredibly loaded offenses with some of the best in the game. Kinda neat but i don't know that there is a trend of receivers running like sub 4.2 40's and creating incredible mismatches. Edited November 20, 2018 by dneveu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Not ENOUGH plays, apparently, as the score was a record one. There were three defensive TDs last night or did you miss that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: In Buffalo...you’ve watched the Bills for basically these reasons. - Fear of them moving - Nostalgia/Born into you - Beer/Friends Party very rarely is the reason to watch and/or go to the game for Quality Exicting Entertainment. It’s more Obligation to go because when you were 7 your dad took you to your first game and yeah we all have that story. but game like last night. Are the type or games that actually justify you to go that aren’t related to some deeply ingrained Social Regional responsibility of being a WNYer. And frankly I am disappointed to see Bills fans want to poo poo the MNF Game and its implications for the future. the Bills as a whole have been a garbage franchise. BUT there bright spot, historic spot in the history of the NFL was when they ran the K Gun. A no huddle attack. the K Gun. let me ask...what the defenses historic nickname? Sorry, but the K-gun offense was not this franchise's most important contribution to the history of the NFL. The mid-60's AFL champions deserve that honor for helping to establish credibility to the AFL and the modern game. And how did they go about doing that? By using a dominant defense and a run-oriented offense to counter all of the flashy, "gimmicky" AFL offenses. Every once in a while, it's fun to have a game like last night. Just like every once in a while, it's fun to have a game like last year's Snow Bowl against the Colts. But as a regular thing? Nah. The Greatest Show on Turf was exciting. But so were the 1985 Bears. The league does appear to be intent on diminishing the importance of defense, special teams, the running game, and the overall violent nature of the sport. What we will soon have is a glorified flag football league with only one way to achieve success: find a franchise QB and keep him healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Let's just say it: If the Bills were 54-51 winners last night, most of you haters would be LOVING this Of course. But if this is what the NFL is going to become, I wont be tuning into games outside the Bills nearly as much as I do now. So much of the offensive production yesterday was due to wide open receivers and defensive penalties. There's nothing exciting about that. Easily the most exciting plays of the night were Aaron Donald's strip sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Of course. But if this is what the NFL is going to become, I wont be tuning into games outside the Bills nearly as much as I do now. So much of the offensive production yesterday was due to wide open receivers and defensive penalties. There's nothing exciting about that. Easily the most exciting plays of the night were Aaron Donald's strip sacks. There were some dramatic moments on defense too: 3 defensive TD's I believe? What made that game so amazing was : Two 9-1 teams, game moved to LA, lived up to the hype. It's one game. I enjoyed it and I love defense too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Excellent offense. Bad defense. No balance. I think you might have misread my earlier post. I was FOR balance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 It was a fun game to watch. I'm not going to be negative about the lack of D. Just enjoy it. The defense on both teams actually made some big plays too. As much as teams might want to copy KC, LA and NO, it's not gonna happen. Even those teams get slowed down once in a while. The Chiefs at home don't seem to ring up those kinds of numbers. I think it's just one of those years where everything is going right offensively. What really impresses me about the Rams is their pace. They get up to the line quickly and are so organized in what they want to do. That's McVay. He's the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, dpberr said: IMO, the game illustrates the "Brandon Spikes" problem that plagues the modern NFL defensive schemes. They are all (including Wade Phillips) concocting defenses for an NFL that's on its way out. I was surprised at how easily gashed the Wade Phillips defense was last night, personally. Last night was essentially the Maginot Line versus German armor in World War II. A defense brilliantly designed for combat of the past up against the combat of the future. The defensive mindset has to adapt to what you saw on your televisions last night. No more linebackers. No more zone coverage. No more lining up your four pass rushers on the line of scrimmage. Somebody will come up with something radical to countermeasure. That's a wrong observation. If Kc or La went zone and played 1 or 0 Lbs. Hunt and Gurley would have ran for 200 yards. They are both well balanced and dictate personal to the defense. No different than the 90's Bill's, greatest show on turf Rams. The difference is the rules have changed. No contact down the feild. No real ability to hit wrs in the air. However, no matter the era what Reid and Mcvay have in terms of talent and play calling would be dynamic anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: How Will Rams-Chiefs Impact the Future of the NFL? Monday night's game between the Rams and Chiefs marked a pivotal moment for the NFL. As a result, expect many teams to make major changes this offseason. When something operates at the pace of an AAU basketball game between tireless children, there may not have been enough stoppage time to recognize the strength and direction of the undercurrent surging beneath. Football, after years of being chopped up, hacked into pieces, broken down and frantically welded together, was officially remade on Monday night. And it’s never going back. cough *last year's Super Bowl raises it's hand* cough.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Not sure how i feel about it. Im old school so yes i enjoy big hits and great defense. However, I watched the game and was thoroughly entertained...which is kinda the point. If we are lucky the "annual rules changes" have a few tweaks in the defenses favor so that there is a little more balance. Im more entertained watching yesterdays game then a 12-9 snoozer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'ts only cool if it's an anomaly... not the norm. Patriots 18-1 season Rams Greatest Show on Turf Those unstoppable great offenses were something to marvel at. But when there's multiple teams doing this (Chiefs/Rams/Saints).. it's just not exciting because it's just normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 yes Bills, keep on building a D and insisting on a feature RB with a gold-plated contract... 9 minutes ago, Jobot said: I'ts only cool if it's an anomaly... not the norm. Patriots 18-1 season Rams Greatest Show on Turf Those unstoppable great offenses were something to marvel at. But when there's multiple teams doing this (Chiefs/Rams/Saints).. it's just not exciting because it's just normal. i don't enjoy this at all, i like to see competence displayed in all levels of the game. another reason the pro game is slipping away from my concerns.... you are losing us by the thousands Roger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'm pretty sure last night's game changes nothing. It was fun to watch, but how was last night something different about football? It was just a game between two good offenses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Games like last night is why I don't watch college ball. My thoughts exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Your QB turns the ball over five times and you still put up 51 points. That's a powerful offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Your QB turns the ball over five times and you still put up 51 points. That's a powerful offense. Last night might have been the greatest offensive performances I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, Commonsense said: I’m still sticking by my story, some NFL execs sat around watching Big 12 football and thought it would be a great idea for their own product. Would anyone like this as the norm? Maybe we need a poll. I’m interested in what that would look like. I don't want that to be the norm. I don't think it will be. Defenses at some point will adjust and close the gap a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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