Kwai San Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 AP says Tre hasn't cleared concussion protocol.....sheesh that sux! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Actually his backup played well on Monday night after he went down 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Julian Stanford will most likely be tasked trying to diagnose screen passes to tarik Cohen and cover TE Trey Burton, this should be entertaining to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Julian Stanford will most likely be tasked trying to diagnose screen passes to tarik Cohen and cover TE Trey Burton, this should be entertaining to watch. Not nearly as much as watching Peterman throw the ball to the bears.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, gordong said: Not nearly as much as watching Peterman throw the ball to the bears.... I'm totally expecting Matt Barkley to relieve him by halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On a somewhat serious note (my apologies): didn't Lorenzo Alexander play some MLB in last year's playoff game against the Jags? I remember him making plays up the middle, especially on the goal line. And I've read some favorable analysis of his play. So, now that no one can call him a liability or any other such nonsense (which was a prevailing narrative heading into this season), given his performance since and including that playoff game... Maybe Zo fills in some at MLB? Maybe on early downs? Maybe Zo and Milano in an early-down big nickel, with Stanford rotating in on passing downs? The man is just plain good at football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, mrags said: Actually his backup played well on Monday night after he went down As a whole he played well, but his missed tackle on James White on 3rd and 11 when down 12-6 (eventually 18-6) was a back breaker. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: As a whole he played well, but his missed tackle on James White on 3rd and 11 when down 12-6 (eventually 18-6) was a back breaker. and he looked utterly clueless when he intercepted the 2 point try. In a case like that you need to either bat the ball to the ground or catch it and run like hell for the other end zone. Diddling around and ultimately fumbling the ball in the end zone was the worst possible thing to do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I don't understand how some players are cleared by Thursday and some are cleared on Saturday. The hit to the head didn't look that bad, this is a huge loss and I really have enjoyed watching this rookie play and get better each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I don't understand how some players are cleared by Thursday and some are cleared on Saturday. The hit to the head didn't look that bad, this is a huge loss and I really have enjoyed watching this rookie play and get better each week. You're dealing with concussion related symptoms, and those vary greatly from person to person in duration and intensity, based on the hit itself, # of past hits, frequency of hits, and God knows what else. Some guys get dinged and they are dizzy for a week and have to sit still in a dark room to avoid the dizziness. Other guys are OK and back to normal in a short period of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I was a little surprised that Humber wasn’t the one who came in for Edmunds on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, gordong said: Not nearly as much as watching Peterman throw the ball to the bears.... Instead of pregame drills of passing to Bills WRs in their routes, Peterman will practice throwing to the Bears secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Instead of pregame drills of passing to Bills WRs in their routes, Peterman will practice throwing to the Bears secondary Any chance of a blizzard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, The Process said: Any chance of a blizzard? At your local Dairy Queen Have they tripled the bounty on INTs for the Bears D today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I like the Dilly Bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I don't understand how some players are cleared by Thursday and some are cleared on Saturday. The hit to the head didn't look that bad, this is a huge loss and I really have enjoyed watching this rookie play and get better each week. I thought it did look bad, his whole spine was compressed also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Process said: I like the Dilly Bar fond memories of pitching in for a box of them and then the Gf ate 5 of the 6 in just under an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I'm totally expecting Matt Barkley to relieve him by halftime. I think Nate Pickman lasts the entire game, giving up 5 INTs, 2 for Pick Sixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: You're dealing with concussion related symptoms, and those vary greatly from person to person in duration and intensity, based on the hit itself, # of past hits, frequency of hits, and God knows what else. Some guys get dinged and they are dizzy for a week and have to sit still in a dark room to avoid the dizziness. Other guys are OK and back to normal in a short period of time. There's a medical term for this: post concussion syndrome, and there's a long list of symptoms associated with it besides dizziness. Dale Earnhardt, Jr, easily the most popular NASCAR driver of the last fifteen years, missed the last half of the 2016 NASCAR season because of concussion related symptoms and ultimately decided to retire because of it although he did come back in 2017 to run one last season. Earnhardt was diagnosed in July, 2016 with post concussion syndrome and wasn't medically cleared to race again until December, 2016 (after the end of the NASCAR season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Like the replay booth team the concussion protocol team just makes it up on the spot, totally ignoring obvious evidence, then they get a Collinsworth to crow how, after the decision, they were again perfectly right and he knew it all along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaBills Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, SoTier said: I think Nate Pickman lasts the entire game, giving up 5 INTs, 2 for Pick Sixes. I dont think peterman will throw a pick this game and the bills will win...however im not banking (big $$) on it. But edmunds not playing puts the bills win in alot more doubt Edited November 4, 2018 by ChattanoogaBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said: As a whole he played well, but his missed tackle on James White on 3rd and 11 when down 12-6 (eventually 18-6) was a back breaker. And this is an example of the kind of losing I expected to see this year: generally decent play with a few critical missed tackles, a few critical INTs, and a few penalties at the wrong time to just not have enough to win. Not the blowouts and total offensive ineptitude. 12 minutes ago, ChattanoogaBills said: I dont think peterman will throw a pick this game and the bills will win...however im not banking (big $$) on it. But edmunds not playing puts the bills win in alot more doubt If Peterman doesn't throw a pick, it will mean he's not throwing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 This guy is 20 and the human brain is not done developing till about age 24, so why risk it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, row_33 said: Like the replay booth team the concussion protocol team just makes it up on the spot, totally ignoring obvious evidence, then they get a Collinsworth to crow how, after the decision, they were again perfectly right and he knew it all along Yeah, really hope him playing the rest of the half doesn't lead to long term impact. Those additional hits once you have a concussion, even small ones can be really, really bad long term. I'd be good with him waiting until after the bye to come back, if not longer, regardless of if he clears protocol. 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And this is an example of the kind of losing I expected to see this year: generally decent play with a few critical missed tackles, a few critical INTs, and a few penalties at the wrong time to just not have enough to win. Not the blowouts. You put a few of those critical mistakes together at the wrong time, and you get a blowout. Of course that by no means excuses the historically poor offensive performance, you xan still get blowm out regularily and look like a somewhat competent offense. That said, those mistakes are not random, the other team is game planning to put people into situations to make the mistake...the question is, is the same mistake happening consistently or are they learning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, row_33 said: Like the replay booth team the concussion protocol team just makes it up on the spot, totally ignoring obvious evidence, then they get a Collinsworth to crow how, after the decision, they were again perfectly right and he knew it all along No. Every player does "baseline testing" on a computer. After a concussion, they have to return to baseline. John Urschel, the (now retired) Ravens OLman who is working on a doctorate at MIT, joked "I must have been having a good day when I did my baseline, 'cuz it took me a long time to get back there" This is part of the protocol from high school on up these days. Then there's a staged protocol where they return to activity with continued neurological and balance assessment. There is some subjectivity in the sense of the player self-reporting symptoms such as headache, nausea, vision changes and so forth but it's far from "making it up on the spot". The catch is that the limited neuro testing they do on the sideline doesn't catch everything, so some players clear and go back in only to be caught on more rigorous screening later. They had to do it that way because if they made the sideline testing as rigorous as the full testing at rest, normal un-concussed guys who have been playing their guts out for 50 minutes wouldn't pass it. Well, plus some players may deliberately fudge their baseline so it's easier for them to get back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And this is an example of the kind of losing I expected to see this year: generally decent play with a few critical missed tackles, a few critical INTs, and a few penalties at the wrong time to just not have enough to win. Not the blowouts and total offensive ineptitude. This is what we had in 2013 IIRC when we had rookie EJ Manuel plus UDFA rookie Jeff Tuel and UDFA Thad Lewis. That team was in most games until late when sometimes the score would get out of hand -- and the QBs were, on paper, less talented than the current QB group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 They will probably move Milano to MLB and Humber will probably play on Milano side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I don't understand how some players are cleared by Thursday and some are cleared on Saturday. The hit to the head didn't look that bad, this is a huge loss and I really have enjoyed watching this rookie play and get better each week. He got completely rocked to the bone. It didn’t look bad? Take another look. It was a full on body block that wrecked him. I’m aurlised he played another snap. A career ruining type hit imo. Not illegal in any way, just tough to absorb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Stanford looked solid in Spot duty. I think it's a great opportunity to see what a guy who's easily the best athlete on the team can do with a week's worth of preparation against a creative offensive play caller. If Stanford acquits himself well, it could give the staff a chance to consider re-signing him this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I love all the Peterman INT jokes, but I predict he has a good game with high percentage passes. Maybe 1 pick, cause even Brady gets picked every now and then. Will be back to check on this. I think the guy has just had some tough luck when he tries a bit too hard to make a play. Hopefully someone has gotten into his ear and told him he doesn't have the arm for that type of thing. Play YOUR game, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Instead of pregame drills of passing to Bills WRs in their routes, Peterman will practice throwing to the Bears secondary I don't understand why this excessive negativity to Peterman. At the end of the day, I am a Bills fan and I want to see my Bills players succeed. We should all be rooting for our current starting QB Peterman. Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Edmunds still needs to make a lot of progress and it's been slow, but Stanford is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No. Every player does "baseline testing" on a computer. After a concussion, they have to return to baseline. John Urschel, the (now retired) Ravens OLman who is working on a doctorate at MIT, joked "I must have been having a good day when I did my baseline, 'cuz it took me a long time to get back there" This is part of the protocol from high school on up these days. Then there's a staged protocol where they return to activity with continued neurological and balance assessment. There is some subjectivity in the sense of the player self-reporting symptoms such as headache, nausea, vision changes and so forth but it's far from "making it up on the spot". The catch is that the limited neuro testing they do on the sideline doesn't catch everything, so some players clear and go back in only to be caught on more rigorous screening later. They had to do it that way because if they made the sideline testing as rigorous as the full testing at rest, normal un-concussed guys who have been playing their guts out for 50 minutes wouldn't pass it. Well, plus some players may deliberately fudge their baseline so it's easier for them to get back. This is what happened to Jason Pominvile, too. He couldn’t replicate the baseline cognitive results established before the season and it took him weeks to pass the concussion protocol even though he had been symptom free during that time frame. He was having a high performance day when originally tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Humber is Milano’s backup at WLB, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Stanford looked solid in Spot duty. I think it's a great opportunity to see what a guy who's easily the best athlete on the team can do with a week's worth of preparation against a creative offensive play caller. If Stanford acquits himself well, it could give the staff a chance to consider re-signing him this offseason. Agree, assuming he plays (other than STs). Saw a post the other day that said he was not a good athlete. But I thought his test scores (pro day I think) were really very good and his power lifting exploits confirm his raw strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It sux but it's part of the game. Injuries happen to every team. Stanford seemed capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 11 hours ago, mrags said: Actually his backup played well on Monday night after he went down Not really. He had that one really good play to get a stop but after that I saw missed tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Not really. He had that one really good play to get a stop but after that I saw missed tackles. Yeah, the book on him is that he's good as long as the play is in front of him in the run game but he can take poor angles and can be a step slow in getting back into position to make a play - exactly what we saw Monday night. With Jets and Lions he didn't play much on passing downs. So STs has been his meal ticket in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 You mean no one saw this coming????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Edmunds is a kid playing out of position in the NFL... We shouldn't have drafted him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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