betop Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Imagine this team with Teddy at QB and Josh Allen learning in the bench... with this defense and a QB like him the bills would be very good playoff team. But they sing Macarron for the same money and then choose Peterman over him both big mistakes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, betop said: Imagine this team with Teddy at QB and Josh Allen learning in the bench... with this defense and a QB like him the bills would be very good playoff team. But they sing Macarron for the same money and then choose Peterman over him both big mistakes This thread needs to be on TSW, not Off The Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 There already is a thread on the Wall talking about what could have been done differently last offseason. Â A number of posts commented on the idea of getting Bridgewater. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Hap can close it or op can delete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 2:36 PM, betop said: Imagine this team with Teddy at QB and Josh Allen learning in the bench... with this defense and a QB like him the bills would be very good playoff team. But they sing Macarron for the same money and then choose Peterman over him both big mistakes  Looking back now i would tend to agree ! Even after they traded McCaron when the Jets let Teddy go they should have made a offer with the extra 5th they got for AJ but as they say hind sight is 20/20 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Seeing as how Teddy hasnt even started or played in a full game yet, hard to say if it was the right or wrong move. No one knows yet what he will be able to do after missing alot of time 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 5:28 PM, mead107 said: Hap can close it or op can delete  Should we start a poll? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Hindsight is a wonderful thing.  It makes everything so clear.  It's also much easier than deciding in real time with limited info. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 3:36 PM, betop said: Imagine this team with Teddy at QB and Josh Allen learning in the bench... with this defense and a QB like him the bills would be very good playoff team. But they sing Macarron for the same money and then choose Peterman over him both big mistakes   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 teddy and his amazing years of 14 tds and 9 picks with 5 fumbles...yea we'd love that. honestly fitz would have been a great decision. we could deal with the picks but he'd sling the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: teddy and his amazing years of 14 tds and 9 picks with 5 fumbles...yea we'd love that. honestly fitz would have been a great decision. we could deal with the picks but he'd sling the ball.  Fitz wasn't an option because he re-signed with the Bucs before UFA started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 do we know for sure that the Bills were not interested and he didn't want to come here or Bills didn't offer enough money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Â Fitz wasn't an option because he re-signed with the Bucs before UFA started. Â did he? you're right it was right before on march 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 The mistake was made by McDermott who doesn’t know what good QBs look like. We’re so screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Seeing as how Teddy hasnt even started or played in a full game yet, hard to say if it was the right or wrong move. No one knows yet what he will be able to do after missing alot of time  This is something that gets skipped too often. There is a reason Teddy is bouncing around. I suspect he may not have recovered as well as he had hoped and needed a good deal of time to really get back to starting form.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 4:39 PM, Fadingpain said: There already is a thread on the Wall talking about what could have been done differently last offseason. Â A number of posts commented on the idea of getting Bridgewater. Â WE NEED MORE OF THEM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I would have drafted Brady in the 5th. Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Let’s be real here, more than likely teddy wins the job opening day and either the ravens or chargers murders the guy and puts him on IR. We bash Peterman all the time for lack of arm and you want bridgewater to replace him? While I would agree he’s a step up from Nate I highly doubt he survives those first few games and were still in the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 What a horrible mistake to not sign a guy who was out of football for 2 years. Just horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 3:36 PM, betop said: Imagine this team with Teddy at QB and Josh Allen learning in the bench... with this defense and a QB like him the bills would be very good playoff team. But they sing Macarron for the same money and then choose Peterman over him both big mistakes  I wrote the following in a different Bridgewater thread:  I guess I don't get the romanticizing with this guy. It's not like he took the league by storm. His stats are very similar to Tyrod's.  Bridgewater in 2014 (first year he started) - finished with a 6-6 record, 2919 yards, 14 TDs, 12 INTs, 39 sacks Taylor in 2015 (first year he started) - finished with a 7-6 record, 3035 yards, 20 TDs, 6 INTs, 36 sacks - selected to Pro Bowl  Bridgewater in 2015 (second year as starter) - 11-5 record (great Minnesota defense), 3231 yards, still only 14 TDs, 9 INTs, 44 sacks - selected to Pro Bowl Taylor in 2016 (second year as starter) - 7-8 record, 3023 yards, 17 TDs, 6 INTs, 42 sacks  Bridgewater was injured prior to the 2016 season and that sent him on the path that saw him lose the Vikings starting job, end up with the Jets and now the Saints.  Taylor had one more year as a starter in Buffalo, 8-6 record, 2799 yards, 14 TDS, 4 INTs, 46 sacks - helped end a 17-year playoff drought.  Both QBs are similar in size, both have a habit of holding onto the ball too long, both have trouble seeing over the line and seeing the entire field. Bridgewater's completion percentage was a few points higher than Taylor's but not by a whole lot.  So put Bridgewater behind this OL and see if the results are any better... doubtful.  Plus, Bridgewater is much less mobile than Taylor, and probably even Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Nope. Nope. Nope. Hed be scheduled for surgery already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Nope. Â Currently Mahomes is the franchise altering decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I know they say they tried with some of these options, but my question ( or questioning) of this staff is how hard did they try?  For example they tried with Derek Anderson in the off season but he wanted to keep his options open.  Well...OK...how hard did they try? How important was it to them or how important SHOULD THEY HAVE REALIZED IT WAS TO THEM?  Right now it appears Anderson is getting the veteran minimum. Is that what they offered him in the off season? Is that why they didn't bother to offer Teddy anything?  Sure they are tight up against the cap, but Quarterback is different and they had the room to either double, or in Teddy's case, add a couple of million on to these offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 3:36 PM, betop said: Imagine this team with Teddy at QB and Josh Allen learning in the bench... with this defense and a QB like him the bills would be very good playoff team. But they sing Macarron for the same money and then choose Peterman over him both big mistakes  Did you ever think that the player needs to want to come to your city and play for your team?  This isn't Madden where you wave a big check and the player comes running  Teddy B thought he could win the Jets job and prove himself to get a big payday in 2019. BTW OP did you even see the PS games?  AJM looked bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 We didn’t have the money for him.  Don’t think there’s anything else to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, NewEra said: We didn’t have the money for him.  Don’t think there’s anything else to say. He signed for very similar money to AJ McCarron, with significantly less guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 But seriously...  We take Mahomes last year at 10, he sits behind Tyrod all year. We lose White (though I world exists where we could have potentially had White instead of Zay Jones). We don't have pick 22 this year. So since we are all the way down the rabbit hole, lets say they move up and get White instead of Zay Jones (obviously White was higher on their board and obviously they were willing to move up)  In 2018, we have no need to move up in the draft for QB, so we keep Cordy at LT and pick 21. We still trade Tyrod as Mahomes is the starter now, so we sit at the draft with picks 21 / 53 / 56 / 65.  21 - Billy Price 53 - James Washington 56 - Royce Freeman 65 - Fred Warner   So basically we could have had: Mahomes / White / Glenn / Price / James Washington / Royce Freeman / Fred Warner  Instead we have: Allen / White / Zay / Edmunds   Yeah.    Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: But seriously...  We take Mahomes last year at 10, he sits behind Tyrod all year. We lose White (though I world exists where we could have potentially had White instead of Zay Jones). We don't have pick 22 this year. So since we are all the way down the rabbit hole, lets say they move up and get White instead of Zay Jones (obviously White was higher on their board and obviously they were willing to move up)  In 2018, we have no need to move up in the draft for QB, so we keep Cordy at LT and pick 21. We still trade Tyrod as Mahomes is the starter now, so we sit at the draft with picks 21 / 53 / 56 / 65.  21 - Billy Price 53 - James Washington 56 - Royce Freeman 65 - Fred Warner   So basically we could have had: Mahomes / White / Glenn / Price / James Washington / Royce Freeman / Fred Warner  Instead we have: Allen / White / Zay / Edmunds   Yeah.    And there could have been an earth quake that swallowed up the entirety of WNY and then we'd have nothing to complain about.  This kind of hindsight stuff is useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Are only the "probation" posters allowed to start new Teddy threads, because if not, I have some really unique takes on this topic that I think deserve their own thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 54 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: And there could have been an earth quake that swallowed up the entirety of WNY and then we'd have nothing to complain about.  This kind of hindsight stuff is useless.   It's not though. There were plenty on the board who liked Mahomes (or Watson) and there were plenty who thought we overpaid to move up for a subpar QB prospect.  It's the same old as this franchise has been the last two decades. Plenty see the brick wall coming every time, but many claim we should blindly support everything the franchise does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:   It's not though. There were plenty on the board who liked Mahomes (or Watson) and there were plenty who thought we overpaid to move up for a subpar QB prospect.  It's the same old as this franchise has been the last two decades. Plenty see the brick wall coming every time, but many claim we should blindly support everything the franchise does. I liked Watson. I was disappointed they didn't take him. I watched last week. He didn't play well.  Now tell me exactly how my wanting Watson last year is in any way useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Are only the "probation" posters allowed to start new Teddy threads, because if not, I have some really unique takes on this topic that I think deserve their own thread... Â I'll be happy to read it, but make sure you start the post with "Hear me out...." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I liked Watson. I was disappointed they didn't take him. I watched last week. He didn't play well.  Now tell me exactly how my wanting Watson last year is in any way useful.   I'm sorry, I thought a message board was a place for a conversation. I was replying in a thread about someone wishing we had signed Bridgewater and simply stating taking Mahomes + not having to move up this past spring looks like the clear mistake. How are you adding anything replying in a "I wish we had done...." thread stating it's a useless exercise. Literally everything that's done here is a useless exercise, a place for fans to talk about frustrations or things that interest them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, blacklabel said:  I wrote the following in a different Bridgewater thread:  I guess I don't get the romanticizing with this guy. It's not like he took the league by storm. His stats are very similar to Tyrod's.  Bridgewater in 2014 (first year he started) - finished with a 6-6 record, 2919 yards, 14 TDs, 12 INTs, 39 sacks Taylor in 2015 (first year he started) - finished with a 7-6 record, 3035 yards, 20 TDs, 6 INTs, 36 sacks - selected to Pro Bowl  Bridgewater in 2015 (second year as starter) - 11-5 record (great Minnesota defense), 3231 yards, still only 14 TDs, 9 INTs, 44 sacks - selected to Pro Bowl Taylor in 2016 (second year as starter) - 7-8 record, 3023 yards, 17 TDs, 6 INTs, 42 sacks  Bridgewater was injured prior to the 2016 season and that sent him on the path that saw him lose the Vikings starting job, end up with the Jets and now the Saints.  Taylor had one more year as a starter in Buffalo, 8-6 record, 2799 yards, 14 TDS, 4 INTs, 46 sacks - helped end a 17-year playoff drought.  Both QBs are similar in size, both have a habit of holding onto the ball too long, both have trouble seeing over the line and seeing the entire field. Bridgewater's completion percentage was a few points higher than Taylor's but not by a whole lot.  So put Bridgewater behind this OL and see if the results are any better... doubtful.  Plus, Bridgewater is much less mobile than Taylor, and probably even Allen. Oh my god. Tyrod was in the NFL for 5 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:   I'm sorry, I thought a message board was a place for a conversation. I was replying in a thread about someone wishing we had signed Bridgewater and simply stating taking Mahomes + not having to move up this past spring looks like the clear mistake. How are you adding anything replying in a "I wish we had done...." thread stating it's a useless exercise. Literally everything that's done here is a useless exercise, a place for fans to talk about frustrations or things that interest them. I was too harsh. My apologies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Â I'll be happy to read it, but make sure you start the post with "Hear me out...." Â Or "I was just thinking..." Â Or "I apologize if this is being discussed in another thread...." Edited October 19, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 59 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Oh my god. Tyrod was in the NFL for 5 years!  And?  If Bridgewater is as good as some people believe, he'd be starting somewhere.  There's also something to be said about his knee. It was a massive injury. He's potentially one hit away from ending his career. Granted, that can be said for all players but the likelihood for it happening to him is much higher because of the knee. I think that's had a lot to do as to why he hasn't received any real starting opportunities anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/15/2018 at 5:28 PM, mead107 said: Hap can close it or op can delete Imagine this team with Riley Ferguson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, blacklabel said:  And?  If Bridgewater is as good as some people believe, he'd be starting somewhere.  There's also something to be said about his knee. It was a massive injury. He's potentially one hit away from ending his career. Granted, that can be said for all players but the likelihood for it happening to him is much higher because of the knee. I think that's had a lot to do as to why he hasn't received any real starting opportunities anywhere. The team with Drew Brees traded for him. He should start over Brees? Edited October 19, 2018 by BringBackOrton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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