Paul Costa Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 In her lawyers response they claim Shady didn’t call to check on her after he heard about a break in? I think if someone is staying at my house and it gets broken into the person staying there would reach out to me and let me know what happened ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: Once again, putting words in my mouth on the whole daughter thing, I never attacked your daughter and I've never attacked you, just your posts. Good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: Or that brings the security camera question back into play. As her attorney asked in their statement was he able to see the house from his computer? Indeed. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know how this works, but if there's a CCTV security system, could the police demand access to the tapes via warrant or subpoena? Just now, Wayne Cubed said: Do they have a child together? I thought the mother of his child was someone else, girl named Steph. Who's already come out and said he wasn't abusive towards their son. Ah...ok, thanks. I hadn't heard that she came out in his defense regarding the abuse allegation. Info has been flying so fast in this thread; is there a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, x-BillzeBubba said: Cogs knows all! So we're good https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/11/richie-incognito-claims-to-know-the-whole-story-regarding-lesean-mccoy/ A reliable source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: It's interesting, Shotgunner, the information that has trickled out so far has been just enough to feed the monster from both sides. Hopefully (really hopefully) something comes out more definitively, either way, to spare us the continued drama That's when these things get real ugly, when it can't be proven true or untrue. If it's a he said/she said situation, we probably won't have much info until the prospective trial is over, and the cloud would linger over Shady for possibly the whole year. In this social media world of mob justice and complete ignorance of the law standard "innocent until proven guilty", it could/would/will be a mess. Just like religion and politics, people will pick sides and be adimant about it, even with a lack of evidence. If untrue, it's a damn shame that Shady will be shouted down, called a wife beater, animal, scumbag -and every name in the book-... His good name will be dragged through the mud, and a portion of the population will always assume him guilty, and he will never escape that label. Obviously if it's true he deserves that, but folks won't wait to find out. It's already started. The internet (especially social media) in 2018 is a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I never attacked your daughter and I hope for your sake you were drunk posting yesterday. I don't drink. And considering many others on this board seem to share my values, it's insulting for you to make another personal attack. just stop. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone who turns it personal every time you don't agree. Edited July 11, 2018 by JaxBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, MURPHD6 said: Your not still. The Oxford lists multiple definitions, and you haven't identified a legal definition yet. Still stuck on colloquial. So...to recap. "The Merriam-Webster definition says you're wrong, use the Oxford!" "Umm...the Oxford definition supports me." "Not that definition, the other one!" "The only other one is '1.1 (of a person) skilled at producing persuasive arguments, especially ones intended to deceive.' which doesn't fit at all! "You're an idiot for just using the obvious listed definitions for a word! There's another definition buried somewhere in there which I will not point out or quote/list at all that proves me right!" "Of course there is, bud. Of course there is." ...yeah, I'm done talking to you. You insisted we use the Oxford definition, which I then hung you with. Game, set and match. I think I'll keep using the word the way I have been, given that every definition and dictionary supports it. Ta! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Shotgunner said: That's when these things get real ugly, when it can't be proven true or untrue. If it's a he said/she said situation, we probably won't have much info until the prospective trial is over, and the cloud would linger over Shady for possibly the whole year. In this social media world of mob justice and complete ignorance of the law standard "innocent until proven guilty", it could/would/will be a mess. Just like religion and politics, people will pick sides and be adimant about it, even with a lack of evidence. If untrue, it's a damn shame that Shady will be shouted down, called a wife beater, animal, scumbag -and every name in the book-... His good name will be dragged through the mud, and a portion of the population will always assume him guilty, and he will never escape that label. Obviously if it's true he deserves that, but folks won't wait to find out. It's already started. The internet (especially social media) in 2018 is a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Not at all. Per the Cornell Legal Institute: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/colorable_claim "A plausible legal claim. In other words, a claim strong enough to have a reasonable chance of being valid if the legal basis is generally correct and the facts can be proven in court. The claim need not actually result in a win." "If the glove don't fit..." was plausible. It didn't mean it had an above average degree of believability... Bam! You are my hero, dude. Not that he'll listen, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Thus thread is worth alllllll the popcorns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I think Shady gets out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Thus thread is worth alllllll the popcorns Except kettle corn because that's gross. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: Not at all. Per the Cornell Legal Institute: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/colorable_claim "A plausible legal claim. In other words, a claim strong enough to have a reasonable chance of being valid if the legal basis is generally correct and the facts can be proven in court. The claim need not actually result in a win." "If the glove don't fit..." was plausible. It didn't mean it had an above average degree of believability... Hehehe, you found it. Good for you. You deserve a gold star. You forgot to tell me to do my homework though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, JaxBills said: I don't drink. And considering many others on this board seem to share my values, it's insulting for you to make another personal attack. just stop. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone who turns it personal every time you don't agree. As an outsider, can I just say that I have no clue why you and @NewDayBills are arguing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Ah...ok, thanks. I hadn't heard that she came out in his defense regarding the abuse allegation. Info has been flying so fast in this thread; is there a link? Not sure there is, it was floating around here earlier that I saw that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, thebandit27 said: As an outsider, can I just say that I have no clue why you and @NewDayBills are arguing? Good, because I'm done with it. I don't even know anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: As an outsider, can I just say that I have no clue why you and @NewDayBills are arguing? He accused me of saying Shady was guilty, I never said that, I said I want him cut if guilty. I actually don't know the truth but I think he gets out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, MURPHD6 said: Dear Internet detective keyboard warrior. Merriam webster sucks. HARD. Its a silly American Dictionary, with no etymological context. No one who knows anything about etymology (look that word up too) or semantics gives a crap about what it says. Its used by grade school kids, so I think your quoting a definition meant for 4th graders. Try looking the word up in the Oxford, the 4th (legal) definition might surprise you. Then stop telling people to do research. Because your research is at the level of an elementary school student who just learned how to google, but doesn't have the attention span to read beyond a few sentences. As someone who has worked for Oxford University Press for a dozen years, I can assure you that you are wrong. Yes, the OED is rightly the standard (and you did not actually cite the OED, btw; you'd need a quite expensive subscription to be able to do that), but Webster's New World College Dictionaries are fine dictionaries that do all of the things you say they don't. I am currently looking at the second edition of the Webster New World College Dictionary, and it provides etymological context etc. As I'm sure you know, Merriam-Webster is the corporate owner of the Webster name when it comes to dictionaries. As for Oxford, we publish all types of dictionaries, including American ones and ones that are meant for 4th graders. The Webster New World College Dictionary is the official dictionary of the NYT, WSJ, and AP. (God, I feel like Marshall McLuhan in "Annie Hall"!) Edited July 11, 2018 by dave mcbride 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: I'm not saying what really happened, because at this point we really have no idea about who did it and what their motives were, and the only facts we have (I may be missing some) that have been publicly released are: -mccoy and this girl dated and lived together in his Georgia home -mccoy no longer lives at this home -the ex refuses to leave the house since they broke up -there is an active court case involving McCoy trying to evict her from the premise -police were called to the house, she was found beaten and locked in a bathroom, and taken to the hospital -mccoy was not the one who entered the house, rock solid alibi of being in another state Everything else is speculation We have accusations of a break in, robbery, and assault. If it was all staged by her then all that goes out the window. There are a million possibilities and variables here that we don't know. Ask yourself one question: Who benefits from this? Surely not McCoy, but the victim?? Other than the beating, she has everything to gain here with a civil suit afterwards. Again I honestly don't know, but for those of you who keep acting like it's completely impossible for somebody to have staged this on themselves, I want to to look up one name: Tawana Brawley After you've read about her case, tell me that Delicia staging this is not something that somebody would do. The issue is that people don't always commit crimes because it logically makes sense for them to do so. In fact, it almost never makes logical sense. Just because McCoy doesn't have anything to gain from our perspective doesn't mean he didn't have anything to gain from his. Hell, just because a crime was committed doesn't mean that the perpetrator had anything to gain at all. But assuming that the attacker required having something to gain, the simple answers: 1. McCoy gets what he views as his possessions back. 2. McCoy gets the power/control of the situation/her. 3. McCoy scares her out of going to court/out of the house. And most of all, since McCoy isn't personally carrying out the act, he thinks he can slip by since he technically has an alibi. I am not saying that McCoy is guilty. Obviously Cordon's statement makes it look pretty bad but that's also obviously just her side of the story and the major red flag in it (the attacker requesting the specific items that McCoy wanted) is strictly based on her word and nothing else. We should clearly sit back and see how things develop. My point is simply that crimes aren't always committed because the criminal has something to gain, and even if it doesn't seem like it to us, McCoy may have thought that he had something to gain anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: As an outsider, can I just say that I have no clue why you and @NewDayBills are arguing? I see you as Darry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I don't know any details about this, but was there a Police report, and charges filed, or simply an event in the court of social media??? Police report, but no charges. BTW, another inconsistency (so far) in Cordon's attorney's claims. They're pointing to Shady surveillance system to get the video evidence, but are ignoring Cordon's system that apparently notified her that Shady tried to move her stuff out last month. Why aren't they releasing that? Everything about this is weird & fishy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Red King said: Bam! You are my hero, dude. Not that he'll listen, of course... Well you have to look up all the words I said that your friend bolded, and then compare them to all the words in the definition. Then you can tell me I'm wrong and call check mate. The only catch is that you have to use Oxford. Maybe get your friend to help you. Edited July 11, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GG said: Police report, but no charges. BTW, another inconsistency (so far) in Cordon's attorney's claims. They're pointing to Shady surveillance system to get the video evidence, but are ignoring Cordon's system that apparently notified her that Shady tried to move her stuff out last month. Why aren't they releasing that? Everything about this is weird & fishy. They aren't ignoring her system. Their statement is that after Cordon used their security feed to stop McCoy's crew from taking all of her stuff, McCoy had the security cameras removed and installed his own private cameras. Quote However, on June 1, 2018, much to her surprise, Mr. McCoy had his family, friends, and laborers attempt to wrongfully evict Ms. Cordon from the residence while Ms. Cordon was out-of-state attending her sister's graduation. Ms. Cordon gained knowledge of the wrongful eviction from the live streaming of her security system to her cell phone. She contacted police, and the wrongful eviction was stopped. ...After June 1st, Mr. McCoy had the cameras removed from the home and terminated the service provider. He had a new security system installed with new cameras; however, Mr. McCoy did not give Ms. Cordon any information about the new security system. She has no access to arm or disarm the alarm." Edited July 11, 2018 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Anyone have any good North Carolina BBQ sauce recipes? I want something authentic. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, MURPHD6 said: Well you have to look up all the words I said that your friend bolded, and then compare them to all the words in the definition. Then you can tell me I'm wrong and call check mate. No...I really don't. I am now one of three people that have provided evidence you are in the wrong. You...have provided no actual evidence you are in the right. I've wasted enough time actually looking things up. You seem ready to easily handwave away what we've said while providing nothing to back your own assertions. It's like arguing with a child. "Well, you have to admit, this proves..." "Nu-unh!" "Look, all the evidence sh..." "NU-UNH!!!". Sorry, not wasting any more time. I proved my point. Time you actually prove yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I see you as Darry. Hmmm...I do have a striking resemblance...except for the good hair, and I'm short, stocky, short-limbed, round-faced, and, well, okay, I look absolutely nothing like The Swaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Hmmm...I do have a striking resemblance...except for the good hair, and I'm short, stocky, short-limbed, round-faced, and, well, okay, I look absolutely nothing like The Swaze Are you Kurt Angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Obviously speculation, but they have a child together, so depending upon the custody agreement, they may have to let each other know when they'll be out of town? Not sure how the communication structure would work such that McCoy hadn't had direct contact with her. You're correct that such would dictate some type of phone trail. This is such a weird situation I don't think they have a kid together. I think he only has one kid and it is from another relationship. I know reports are saying they have a kid together, but I think the reports are mistaking or I completely missed this kid being born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: As someone who has worked for Oxford University Press for a dozen years, I can assure you that you are wrong. Yes, the OED is rightly the standard (and you did not actually citing the OED, btw; you'd need a quite expensive subscription to be able to do that), but Webster's New World College Dictionaries are fine dictionaries that do all of the things you say they don't. I am currently looking at the second edition of the Webster New World College Dictionary, and it provides etymological context etc. As I'm sure you know, Merriam-Webster is the corporate owner of the Webster name when it comes to dictionaries. As for Oxford, we publish all types of dictionaries, including American ones and ones that are meant for 4th graders. The Webster New World College Dictionary is the official dictionary of the NYT, WSJ, and AP. (God, I feel like Marshall McLuhan in "Annie Hall"!) Isn't it fun when self-proclaimed experts run into actual experts, folks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 It seems that this woman is a lowlife parasite,..... but it also seems McCoy messed up very bad. Like possible jail time bad. We will see when all the facts come it. Doesnt look good all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Thunderstruck said: Isn't it fun when self-proclaimed experts run into actual experts, folks? That’s the beauty of the more active threads. Plenty of entertaining side shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, May Day 10 said: It seems that this woman is a lowlife parasite,..... but it also seems McCoy messed up very bad. Like possible jail time bad. We will see when all the facts come it. Doesnt look good all around. As long as the robber is never found....I think McCoy gets off pretty easily. Did he have anything to do with it? I hope not but lets see how this plays out and more facts surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, DCOrange said: They aren't ignoring her system. Their statement is that after Cordon used their security feed to stop McCoy's crew from taking all of her stuff, McCoy had the security cameras removed and installed his own private cameras. Missed that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you Kurt Angle? Maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Do they have a child together? I thought the mother of his child was someone else, girl named Steph. Who's already come out and said he wasn't abusive towards their son. Do you have a link to this? LeSean's mom said something to this effect but I can't find any kind of statement from this Steph, other than her and LeSean got into a heated Twitter fight back in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Maybe. If you are, I loved your matches with Chris Benoit, Brock Lesnar, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I think theres 2 likely scenarios that happened here 1. McCoy hired some people to break in and assault her while taking back some items he gave her that she wouldn't give back (maybe learned from the Dareus incident that the courts may not side with him as to what she gets to keep). Also hoping she wouldn't want to live in the house out of fear of another break in. 2. This girl truly is crazy and she staged the entire thing knowing it could destroy his career and get him back for leaving her (possibly bring him back to her in some weird logic way?) Or another probably scenario...... 3. Nate Peterman did it. After starting to get attention as possibly having a chance to win the starting job, Shady comes out and starts talking highly of Allen to the media about how great he looks, and Peterman exacts revenge for backing Allen..... If McCoy staged it, it's also possible that ones who carried it out could have been White and Allen, it would explain why McCoy keeps speaking so highly of these guys when he normally doesnt when it comes to rookie players.......hmmmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Hmmm...I do have a striking resemblance...except for the good hair, and I'm short, stocky, short-limbed, round-faced, and, well, okay, I look absolutely nothing like The Swaze 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Are you Kurt Angle? 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Maybe. Funny how everyone sees something different with that description... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you Kurt Angle? Or George Costanza? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I say shady authorized and incentivised the return of his jewelry. he didn't expect her to get roughed up. better hope the fall guy comes through one way or the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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