Joe B: 53 Man Roster Projection - Final

[Dadonkadonk]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Im a bit higher on Milano then you.....but none of this really seems out of place

He definitely made some nice plays last year.  Reminds me ok Kiko.  I think ultimately he will be too small to play the position.  He is only 6-0 and 221.  That is a SS not an OLB.  But instincts and speed can turn into great plays of which he delivered last year.    

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Dadonkadonk said:

He definitely made some nice plays last year.  Reminds me ok Kiko.  I think ultimately he will be too small to play the position.  He is only 6-0 and 221.  That is a SS not an OLB.  But instincts and speed can turn into great plays of which he delivered last year.    

But look at McD and what he brings from the Panther's.....they use guys that can move...he actually fits.

 

And if Kiko does get hit with the injury bug I think his career is much better.

 

I actually think the drafting of Edmunds allows them to do more things with Milano......he is very good going after the QB as well.

 

Lorax?  Im wondering if he would not just be a better DE at this poing giving us more pass rush.   It is pretty much a given that if he sticks with the team this is probably his last year.

[Dadonkadonk]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

But look at McD and what he brings from the Panther's.....they use guys that can move...he actually fits.

 

And if Kiko does get hit with the injury bug I think his career is much better.

 

I actually think the drafting of Edmunds allows them to do more things with Milano......he is very good going after the QB as well.

 

Lorax?  Im wondering if he would not just be a better DE at this poing giving us more pass rush.   It is pretty much a given that if he sticks with the team this is probably his last year.

If Lorax makes the team I agree.  I would let him pass rush 15-20 snaps a game and play STs.  I'm really hoping Lawson steps up especially in the pass rush.  

[Royale with Cheese]

12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s been playing behind Dupre and Proehl and Allen have a good working relationship. There’s a LONG way to go with the WR. I believe that Benjamin is the only lock. 

 

I pretty much agree with all of Joe's projections except for WR.  Not that I disagree with it, I just think, like you say.....Benjamin is the only lock.  

That's the one role outside of QB I'm going to pay attention to the most because it's a total crapshoot to me.

[Kirby Jackson]

24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I pretty much agree with all of Joe's projections except for WR.  Not that I disagree with it, I just think, like you say.....Benjamin is the only lock.  

That's the one role outside of QB I'm going to pay attention to the most because it's a total crapshoot to me.

I think CB is pretty open too. They have the 2 UDFA’s competing against guys like Borders, Pitts and even Gaines IMO. 

[Royale with Cheese]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I think CB is pretty open too. They have the 2 UDFA’s competing against guys like Borders, Pitts and even Gaines IMO. 

 

Depth for sure but the 4 starters are locked.  Nickel will be interesting.

 

**4 starters meaning safety too.  I thought "secondary all together" when you wrote "CB" because I don't ready thoroughly sometimes"

Edited June 21, 2018 by Royale with Cheese

[ALF]

WR will be a big competition and supply PS. I still hope Logan Thomas can progress at TE.  

 

If the OL can be viable I would be very , very happy.

[billykay]

20 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I don't see Austin Proehl making it. 

Agree. He looks like a good candidate for the PS.

[SoCal Deek]

These lists always elicit my same response....WHO?

 

Every year there are so many players that I’ve literally never heard of. It just shows how few roster spots are actually in play each season, and this would be a year with seemingly high turnover.

[BillsCelticsAngelsBama]

On 6/20/2018 at 9:21 PM, Freddie's Dead said:

I want "Life of" Reilly, "Blood Diamond" de Beer, and Marquavius ('cause the name). 

 "Golf ?

[Bangarang]

On 6/20/2018 at 10:28 PM, Wily Dog said:

I think Dupree is a lock , i also like Reilly over  Holmes. I also would cut/trade Clay because of his infirmities  and keep Logan Thomas.

 

What has Logan Thomas done to deserve a roster spot? Cutting Clay and keeping Thomas doesn’t make much sense.

[MILFHUNTER#518]

On 6/20/2018 at 3:01 PM, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I don't see Austin Proehl making it. 

Agreed. Practice squad, yes 53 man no.

[Wily Dog]

40 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

 

What has Logan Thomas done to deserve a roster spot? Cutting Clay and keeping Thomas doesn’t make much sense.

 

Clay hasn't done as mach as his salary demands. I wasn't saying Logan Thomas should start , that would be up to the coaches but i assume  O'leary would start. I just wanted more bang for our buck.

[ColoradoBills]

21 minutes ago, Wily Dog said:

 

Clay hasn't done as mach as his salary demands. I wasn't saying Logan Thomas should start , that would be up to the coaches but i assume  O'leary would start. I just wanted more bang for our buck.

 

That's what happens when you backload a players contract with guaranteed money and that 2016 restructure should never have been done.

He can't be cut and even a trade won't help the Dead money.

Bills are paying now for having him on the cheap for the 1st 2 years of his contract.

 

I'm hoping for a healthy productive season from him.

 

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said:

Agreed. Practice squad, yes 53 man no.

Hope they can stash him . all the new guys have some skills. just a bit raw for the NFL speed i might guess.

 Foster is a guy i really want to watch. Reilly needs to make the 53 this year or be on the bubble and 1st up from PS. I like Ray Ray too.

 

[GreggTX]

I think Joe B did a good job. I would just add 1 more thought. There are bound to be a handful of surprise cuts from other teams and I could well see a late addition to the starting lineup giving us his last good year or 2 because we are so weak on the OL and at WR. There's bound to be at least 1 guy who will accept a pay cut after his release that can upgrade a spot or 2. Someone like Nick Barnett, perhaps?

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Wily Dog said:

 

Clay hasn't done as mach as his salary demands. I wasn't saying Logan Thomas should start , that would be up to the coaches but i assume  O'leary would start. I just wanted more bang for our buck.

It was a heluva contract Whaley gave him. Trying to give Manuel every chance to succeed.
I would keep Clay till his contract is up. Like O Leary alot. Think he is underrated asa pass catcher and the rest of him game is getting darned good. see if he gets the ball a bit more this year under Daboll !

 

Logan Thomas. still waiting for something to notice about him. hmmm.

2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

That's what happens when you backload a players contract with guaranteed money and that 2016 restructure should never have been done.

He can't be cut and even a trade won't help the Dead money.

Bills are paying now for having him on the cheap for the 1st 2 years of his contract.

 

I'm hoping for a healthy productive season from him.

 

I was going to mention about Health. Dude played through a ton of pain i might think with those knees. He was always getting rest days.
 Watch for that in camp. Hoping for a healthy Clay and Benjamin. Thats a tough pair to defend

4 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

I think Joe B did a good job. I would just add 1 more thought. There are bound to be a handful of surprise cuts from other teams and I could well see a late addition to the starting lineup giving us his last good year or 2 because we are so weak on the OL and at WR. There's bound to be at least 1 guy who will accept a pay cut after his release that can upgrade a spot or 2. Someone like Nick Barnett, perhaps?

Agree and hope its is true. Certainly a couple spots that could use an upgrade.

 I see Humber is still a starter. Very very good Teams player , but i saw quite a few mistakes last year from him as LB. 

 Beane said , like they all do, always try to improve the team !

So I think you are correct

 

[Wily Dog]

I'm thinking that Beane will try to make the team better  rather than worry about dollars as with the Dareus.  situation because Clay has turned into a part time player because of his knees.

[26CornerBlitz]

Joe B: Buffalo Bills 2018 Pre-preseason 53-man roster projection

(WKBW) - It was the perfect storm for the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday morning -- no pun intended. Ok, well, maybe now it is after I've thought about it.

 

Either way, the Bills had their first rain-soaked practice of the summer, they weren't in full pads, and it was the day before a preseason game which meant they wanted to be cautious anyway.

 

Outside of A.J. McCarron taking his normal day working with the first-team offense, and new receiver Corey Coleman working in with the third-team offense in his first day on the job, there weren't many things to observe during a practice that ran at half-speed and in the coaching staff's hope that no one got injured.

 

So, with the start of preseason coming up, I figured it's time to bust out a pre-preseason 53-man roster projection. With 11 days of training camp as information, there were plenty of changes from the last time I did this after minicamp in June.

[Kirby Jackson]

16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Joe B: Buffalo Bills 2018 Pre-preseason 53-man roster projection

(WKBW) - It was the perfect storm for the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday morning -- no pun intended. Ok, well, maybe now it is after I've thought about it.

 

Either way, the Bills had their first rain-soaked practice of the summer, they weren't in full pads, and it was the day before a preseason game which meant they wanted to be cautious anyway.

 

Outside of A.J. McCarron taking his normal day working with the first-team offense, and new receiver Corey Coleman working in with the third-team offense in his first day on the job, there weren't many things to observe during a practice that ran at half-speed and in the coaching staff's hope that no one got injured.

 

So, with the start of preseason coming up, I figured it's time to bust out a pre-preseason 53-man roster projection. With 11 days of training camp as information, there were plenty of changes from the last time I did this after minicamp in June.

Wow, no Siran Neal?!? I didn’t think that was a possibility. 

[SCBills]

With rave reviews over Dean Marlowe, the Siran Neal cut isn't that shocking.   I agree with pretty much all his projections.

Edited August 7, 2018 by SCBills

[Captain Murica]

This seems very realistic.

 

With Bush making plays on the regular, it will be nice to have possible depth behind Hyde and Poyer. 

 

I’m not a fan of the 3 QBs but if they’re going to keep their pet Peterman then let it be. It would be nice to carry an extra WR or Safety. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Captain Murica

[26CornerBlitz]

27 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Wow, no Siran Neal?!? I didn’t think that was a possibility. 

 

He doesn't have a roster spot wrapped up? 

[whatdrought]

I expect that Levi Wallace is one of those guys who show enough in games to steal a spot away. 

I don't know that I can see them dumping Neal. It would be hard to justify. 

If Reilly get's put on the PS the Patriots will come for him within a week. 

I say keep 3 rbs, keep McCloud as a RB/WR and Keep Reilly. 

[Rocky Landing]

I’m just going to say this, and then get flamed:

I think KB, Coleman, Kerley, and Holmes are basically locks. I think Zay, if he doesn’t perform well in preseason, could be a surprise cut. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I’m just going to say this, and then get flamed:

I think KB, Coleman, Kerley, and Holmes are basically locks. I think Zay, if he doesn’t perform well in preseason, could be a surprise cut. 

 

 

Someone will HAVE to outperform him, Rocky.  Zay wins all ties.

 

That said, though, I highly doubt if they should get down to say Reilly and Zay, they would choose Reilly.

 

It just starts to work itself out that way when you think about and if you're thinking who would be left.

[Rocky Landing]

41 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Someone will HAVE to outperform him, Rocky.  Zay wins all ties.

 

That said, though, I highly doubt if they should get down to say Reilly and Zay, they would choose Reilly.

 

It just starts to work itself out that way when you think about and if you're thinking who would be left.

Someone will have to outperform him, and contribute to ST. 

Between Reilly, Dupre, Streater, Foster, Phillips, Clay, and Proehl, I think this isn’t unlikely. 

[John from Riverside]

I really think we are gonna be looking at other teams cuts on the offensive line......

 

Love that Croom and Murphy make it

 

RIELLY MUST STAY

Edited August 7, 2018 by John from Riverside

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I’m just going to say this, and then get flamed:

I think KB, Coleman, Kerley, and Holmes are basically locks. I think Zay, if he doesn’t perform well in preseason, could be a surprise cut. 

It's a slim possibility I guess, I just don't see us moving on from a 2nd year ,2nd Rd pick we moved up for , he'd really have to look awful this pre season..

And as far as Reily , I don't think we aquire Coleman if they were confident in him but for that price tag, why not generate more competition? 

 

I actually think Holmes can be the off man out, especially if they go with 4 TE.

 

This WR group is very intriguing

Edited August 7, 2018 by JerseyBills

[John from Riverside]

12 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

It's a slim possibility I guess, I just don't see us moving on from a 2nd year ,2nd Rd pick we moved up for , he'd really have to look awful this pre season..

And as far as Reily , I don't think we aquire Coleman if they were confident in him but for that price tag, why not generate more competition? 

 

I actually think Holmes can be the off man out, especially if they go with 4 TE.

 

This WR group is very intriguing

Reilly serves a different purpose on the team then Colemen does.....they might both be WR.....but different players....

[Mark Vader]

I have heard almost nothing about Julian Stanford, but apparently he is doing good enough.

 

Lafayette Pitts over Breon Borders? Interesting.

 

Really looking forward to how these players look on Thursday.

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Reilly serves a different purpose on the team then Colemen does.....they might both be WR.....but different players....

Absolutely. I just feel he'll be the odd man out since the aqusition of Coleman.. McCloud , Zay and Kerley can all handle that role

[JMF2006]

Why wouldn't Reilly make it over Mcleod?

 

The guy(RRM) is a 7th rnd pick if he can't slide to the ps who can?

[Paul Costa]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

It's a slim possibility I guess, I just don't see us moving on from a 2nd year ,2nd Rd pick we moved up for , he'd really have to look awful this pre season..

And as far as Reily , I don't think we aquire Coleman if they were confident in him but for that price tag, why not generate more competition? 

 

I actually think Holmes can be the off man out, especially if they go with 4 TE.

 

This WR group is very intriguing

I don’t think they will cut Holmes. RZ target, ST ace and a cap hit of 1.8 Million.

[Domdab99]

why would we need four TEs?

[Rico]

No Reilly, no surprise.

[hemma]

Any WR that lands on the PS shouldn't get comfortable, because Beane is already looking for someone better.

 

A PS WR will be a tough job to hold.

[JPL7]

I wonder how exactly Foster has disappointed. I thought I had read somewhere he was doing well. Hopefully he makes the PS

Edited August 8, 2018 by JPL7

[GunnerBill]

On 6/20/2018 at 7:59 PM, BBills88 said:

I would like Brandon Reily over "Holmes"

 

Holmes is on this roster. People who don't like that idea better get used to it. Until one of these younger guys can provide even half of what Holmes does on special teams he isn't even under threat. Oh and McDermott called him "one of our leaders yesterday".  

On 6/22/2018 at 7:59 PM, Bangarang said:

 

What has Logan Thomas done to deserve a roster spot? Cutting Clay and keeping Thomas doesn’t make much sense.

 

Nothing. Logan Thomas sucks. He has had a year and a half to learn this transition and still hasn't mastered running a route or blocking.  Next. 

On 6/22/2018 at 11:24 PM, 3rdand12 said:

It was a heluva contract Whaley gave him. Trying to give Manuel every chance to succeed.
I would keep Clay till his contract is up. Like O Leary alot. Think he is underrated asa pass catcher and the rest of him game is getting darned good. see if he gets the ball a bit more this year under Daboll !

 

 

Clay came the Rex summer by which time I think Manuel's shot at succeeding was all but over. That contract is the worst one Whaley gave out. At the time he gave it it had a higher % guaranteed money than any QB in the NFL not on a rookie deal. Think about that for a second.  He was paid $9m a year with less risk to him than a franchise Quarterback faces when they sign a new deal. Bonkers. 

15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Wow, no Siran Neal?!? I didn’t think that was a possibility. 

 

I think he makes it but the camp reports have not been promising. He has a long way to go to be an effective player but I suspect they don't risk opening him up to waivers and try and give him a redshirt year on the 53. 

11 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

II actually think Holmes can be the off man out, especially if they go with 4 TE.

 

 

And who takes Holmes special teams role..........? He is on this roster. 

 

 

And finally, bad news on Connor McDermott. I really liked his chances at the start of the year, they have clearly been trying to work with him to become a swing tackle. Being passed by Wesley on the depth chart probably means curtains for him though unless he can really play well in the pre-season games. 

Edited August 8, 2018 by GunnerBill

[CEN-CAL17]

What does Holmes do on ST's that everyone thinks he contributes so much?  Yeah he's on ST's but he's not a stud.  He covers kickoffs? Great...

 

Holmes disappears on Sundays.  He should be a WR first, Reilly has more potential and can get open.  I would just find someone like Marlowe or Bush to fill in Holmes spot on STs.

 

Oh but he's a red zone threat! Really?  3 TDs in the red zone makes you a threat?  I bet if, if, Reilly and Holmes both make the squad, Reilly has more receptions, maybe double. 

 

Humber over Robinson?  Humber is terrible too. Robinson can play multiple spots at LB, Humber can not.

 

4 TE's, Why?  Id rather keep 7 WR's allowing McCloud to play KR/PR.  At this point I might take Croom over Thomas.

Edited August 8, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1