Buffalo716 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/06/buffalo_bills_rb_lesean_mccoy_on_verge_of_cementing_hall_of_fame_status_says_br.amp what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He’d stand a better chance if he'd played on a great team and had more personal and post season success. He needs to stay healthy a few more years. I admit I didn’t click the link, but I am curious how his numbers stack up. Chalk one ignorant post up to pure laziness, while just going by instinct. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, Augie said: He’d stand a better chance if he'd played on a great team and had more personal and post season success. He needs to stay healthy a few more years. I admit I didn’t click the link, but I am curious how his numbers stack up. Chalk one ignorant post up to pure laziness, while just going by instinct. ? He has 13,740 yards from scrimmage , ahead of OJ Simpson and just behind Adrian Peterson If he gets 1100 more yards from scrimmage this year he becomes just the 11th player to reach 1100 scrimmage yards 9 or more times one of quickest players to 10,000 rushings yards by carries 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He's got the numbers, although a couple thousand more yards and some playoff wins wouldn't hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Depends on how much longer he plays. Running backs have a much shorter career than most other positions. They take a beating and usually hit a wall around 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) One more year like last year (plus a little change as he slows down for a year or two), and I say he’s in. Now, how are those hammie’s feeling? Edited June 4, 2018 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He is not there yet imo. A couple more good years and he should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Augie said: One more year like last year (plus a little change as he slows down for a year or two), and I say he’s in. Now, how are those hammie’s feeling? Some styles tend to hold up better than others. Compared to other bigger hulking backs Shady takes fewer big shots and still is super quick his game isnt about speed, it’s about his vision/quickness which he still will have for a few more years who knows how he is in 3 years though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Some styles tend to hold up better than others. Compared to other bigger hulking backs Shady takes fewer big shots and still is super quick his game isnt about speed, it’s about his vision/quickness which he still will have for a few more years who knows how he is in 3 years though Vision and quickness are his super powers. Hammie’s and lingering injuries are his kryptonite. He can’t afford to lose big chunks of seasons, for multiple reasons! This is the age where that can happen more and more. Fingers crossed! I hope he’s eating his kale. (Blech!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Two more 1,000 yard seasons puts him in the top 15 rushing yards of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Not yet, talk to me in 3 more years then maybe. Definitely within the realm of possibility but as of now, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 It’s going to be really difficult/impossible for him to put up the necessary numbers with this team imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 When he is all done I think he will be in HOF Top 10 in rushing yards Top 10 in receptions by RB Top 15 rush TD Top 10 in Y/A Top 15 receiving yards by RB These should be attainable for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: It’s going to be really difficult/impossible for him to put up the necessary numbers with this team imo. The flip side is they are going to be very reliant upon him. Could be big numbers. He is THE weapon as long as he’s healthy. Yes, other teams will focus on him. We’ll see..... STAY HEALTHY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I say we DON’T get him in space and run him till he pukes. That didn’t seem to work. Let’s just play football and be good. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The criteria sports writers use to evaluate a player's career are silly. A great player might never play on a great team. That's not his fault. His accomplishments should be be given MORE weight if his team doesn't make the playoffs consistently, because it indicates he's not riding on someone else's abilities to get things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If he finishes his career strong then most definitely. Right now not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He needs a couple more years but since by his admission he adopted regular and hot yoga, which is awesome for increasing flexibility and functional strength with you’re small muscles not achieved by traditional lifting and running, I can see him continuing to play. i see him on the way and this team needs to rely on him as we don’t have stud WR and TE so he will continue to rack up the numbers. So many people are writing off our chances this year, and I still believe we can be solid. Hopefully another wild card spot, and next year we have with the way the cap has increased will mean $100 million in space to retain the studs and buy some key players on top of the draft. that could turn into three playoff appearances or hopefully some wins. We’ll see. As fans we’re so beaten down with a 17 year drought many of us can’t see the plan and talent in the. Mgmt and coaching which is helping in sound decision making. The worst thing that. Could happen is to lose these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He's not far off. Another couple seasons over 1,000 yards and his usual impact in the passing game, he's in. If he retired tomorrow I think he still might get in but it would be a longish wait. I'm just glad he wound up with the Bills. High end, elite, rare talent is a beautiful thing to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 When healthy the past few years he was the most talented player on the field. A few more solid seasons and he is a HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 He has no post-season career to speak of. That's not going to help him get into the HOF. But maybe that won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I predict he will be one of those players passed over for about 5 years then finally making it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) http://www.profootballhof.com/photos/gallery/hall-of-fame-rbs/ There’s a link to current HOF RBs. I agree with those who say he’s not there yet, but could certainly make it if he finishes his career strong. Right now he’s on the outside looking in with the likes of Steven Jackson, Fred Taylor and Corey Dillon. Edited June 4, 2018 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Shady has to break the 12k barrier to have a shot at a yellow jacket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 he is certainly on track for HOF induction but I don't believe in anointing those who haven't earned it (written while wearing Bills SB victor t shirt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: He has no post-season career to speak of. That's not going to help him get into the HOF. But maybe that won't matter. ‘To speak of’? OJ had 1 playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 HE has been good, but has he been one of the best ever. I'm not so sure yet. Currently I would put him in the hall of very good. He will need to be in the top 10 all time rushing leaders when all is said and done for it to be considered, IMO. Which is likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Under which team will he go into the HOF? Eagles or Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Shady has to break the 12k barrier to have a shot at a yellow jacket. Yup and I think he's said that that's what he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Augie said: The flip side is they are going to be very reliant upon him. Could be big numbers. He is THE weapon as long as he’s healthy. Yes, other teams will focus on him. We’ll see..... STAY HEALTHY! Very true. My only worry is being THE guy with the worst receiver group in the league, a below average offensive line, and an inexperienced QB. Opposing defensive coordinators will load the box against this Bills team. There is no way you can allow Shady to beat you, as he is the Bills only weapon. It doesn’t seem like a recipe for big numbers. It’s tough to imagine Shady averaging more than 4 ypg this season imo. I hope that you’re correct because he will definitely be given plenty of opportunities. I wish I were more confident that it will translate to big numbers. Staying healthy will also be a big challenge for a back his age carrying a huge workload. Edited June 4, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I think he has a legitimate chance to get in someday. As long as he stays healthy and can knock out another couple of seasons like his last two, he'll be within the top 10 in a lot of rushing categories. And I don't think playoffs and championships should weigh too heavily on it. Plenty of guys have made the Hall of Fame without a championship or playoff wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 if he had to retire today there's no way he's getting in..... 2 more quality season and I can see it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) Only four career playoff games (all losses, with a 3.9 YPC and 1 TD) will make it hard for him to get in, IMO. OTOH, if LaDainian Tomlinson can get in (10 playoff games, 5-5 record, 3.6 YPC, 6 TDs), Shady should as well. He'll have to play at least 3 more years and hopefully get a few more playoff games to pad the the resume... 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: ‘To speak of’? OJ had 1 playoff game. OJ's talent was generational and transcended statistical norms. He didn't need playoff games to make his HOF case like Shady will... Edited June 4, 2018 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Two more 1,000 yard seasons puts him in the top 15 rushing yards of all time. Vinny Testaverde or Carson Palmer getting in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: Only four career playoff games (all losses, with a 3.9 YPC and 1 TD) will make it hard for him to get in, IMO. OTOH, if LaDainian Tomlinson can get in (10 playoff games, 5-5 record, 3.6 YPC, 6 TDs), Shady should as well. He'll have to play at least 3 more years and hopefully get a few more playoff games to pad the the resume... OJ's talent was generational and transcended statistical norms. He didn't need playoff games to make his HOF case like Shady will... I think one could argue mccoys talent is generational. not so much his numbers but his talent is. he's the only player over the last 20 years that comes into the discussion when you talk about guys that remind you of sanders. he's obviously NOT sanders but he's the only person I can feel okay about putting in that convo. he's most definitely been a top 3 back of his generation. I think he'll have a very strong case if he even just produces for 2 more seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: I think one could argue mccoys talent is generational. not so much his numbers but his talent is. he's the only player over the last 20 years that comes into the discussion when you talk about guys that remind you of sanders. he's obviously NOT sanders but he's the only person I can feel okay about putting in that convo. he's most definitely been a top 3 back of his generation. I think he'll have a very strong case if he even just produces for 2 more seasons. Earl Campbell and Juice only had 5 immortal seasons. And immortal they were. The RB role has fallen down a sinkhole over the last 15 or so years, it doesn't matter much any more for top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 he's gotta get about 3k more yards but he's gonna need some signature playoffs wins and hopefully we can get him those this year and next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: he's gotta get about 3k more yards but he's gonna need some signature playoffs wins and hopefully we can get him those this year and next! he isn't even up to Bills Wall of Fame status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Earl Campbell and Juice only had 5 immortal seasons. And immortal they were. The RB role has fallen down a sinkhole over the last 15 or so years, it doesn't matter much any more for top teams. I think its making a serious comeback though. 3 years ago I would 100% agree. but the feature back is most definitely making a return. couple years ago you could only name less than a handful of feature guys and now the list is getting longer. Just now, row_33 said: he isn't even up to Bills Wall of Fame status. well duh. he hasn't even played half his career in buffalo. that doesn't mean by the end he wont be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: he isn't even up to Bills Wall of Fame status. well if he can put up 3 more years with good production kind of like emmitt did late in his career he could get there. But he's gotta get a run in the playoffs to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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