Article on Josh Allen/Browns Disinformation Conspiracy

[Midwest Bills Fan]

Not sure if this has been posted. This has to be written by a Cleveland writer, but an interesting take on disinformation before the draft.  It could be true, partially true or totally false but still an interesting read. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebiglead.com/2018/04/28/a-conspiracy-theory-on-the-browns-josh-allen-disinformation/amp/

Edited April 29, 2018 by Midwest Bills Fan

[Enemarty]

I think I just became a Josh Allen fan. 

[Virgil]

Yeah, the Bills drafted Allen solely because the Browns hyped him up

 

How does this guy have a job?

[Chuck Wagon]

Garbage Pats fan throwing shade at Allen. 

 

There’s no way Dorsey throwing misinformation towards Allen rocketed him up the draft boards. The guy was listed right with Darnold and Rosen all year. 

[Ittakestime]

Allen would have been first QB taken last year. What is this guy talking about?

[Midwest Bills Fan]

I love how he implies without Dorsey’s interest other teams wouldn’t have been interested when Allen was mentioned as a top prospect all season 

[dayman]

There is literally no reason for Josh Allen to get this level of shade and doubt thrown his way considering the other guys that get drafted high every year. 

 

Lets see what the kid can do. Enough of this bull **** about how he should have gone in the 100th round of the draft.

Edited April 29, 2018 by dayman

[elroy16]

"If the Browns built the hype around Allen and then passed on him (twice) and he busts in Buffalo, then the Bills will come away from the draft looking incredibly foolish. They traded up to get a quarterback whose hype might have been built upon an elaborate (and failed) smokescreen."

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

[ticketssince61]

stupid article 

[Victory Formation]

That was really stupid.

[TallskiWallski83]

I just bricked a SH!T after reading this.

Edited April 29, 2018 by TallskiWallski83

[gordong]

Won’t Cleveland look foolish when mayfield is a bust and Allen is a franchise QB..... lol

[Fan boy '92]

Hmm, why does the team picking first need a smoke screen?

[dlonce]

Does anyone really think the Bills took Allen because the Browns(THE FRIGGIN BROWNS) supposedly put out disformation?

 

Jesus, this is insane and the Browns are the team that predictably bungled their draft.

[Chuck Wagon]

6 minutes ago, gordong said:

Won’t Cleveland look foolish when mayfield is a bust and Allen is a franchise QB..... lol

 

If the 5 QBs taken in round 1 this year had all entered the draft last year, Baker might have been the 8th QB picked. Yet the guy who picked him #1 overall this year pulled some CIA mind tricking to get a guy listed near the top of mock drafts all year long drafted near the top this year. 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

His first  mistake : assuming NFL execs are listening to the Browns. Building hype or anything else. 

[GG]

Couldn't get by this sentence "And because Allen was Dorsey’s type (with a rocket arm), everyone took the bait."

In what world would that even make any sense unless Dorsey was trying to trade out of #1?

 

[dezertbill]

2 hours ago, Midwest Bills Fan said:

Not sure if this has been posted. This has to be written by a Cleveland writer, but an interesting take on disinformation before the draft.  It could be true, partially true or totally false but still an interesting read. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebiglead.com/2018/04/28/a-conspiracy-theory-on-the-browns-josh-allen-disinformation/amp/

Kiper has been doing this long enough we’re he doesn’t get influenced by anyone.   I call BS

 

even when Bills picked Allen, Kiper applauded the move.  That’s not cuz if Dorsey

Edited April 29, 2018 by dezertbill

[nbbillsfan]

Lol so nfl execs are going to be manipulated into overdrafting a guy because they think the stalwarts in Drafting, the Browns, might like him...?

[JinxedBill1]

[Rochesterfan]

4 hours ago, Midwest Bills Fan said:

Not sure if this has been posted. This has to be written by a Cleveland writer, but an interesting take on disinformation before the draft.  It could be true, partially true or totally false but still an interesting read. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebiglead.com/2018/04/28/a-conspiracy-theory-on-the-browns-josh-allen-disinformation/amp/

 

 

Actually - Josh was highly rated at the end of last year also - so he did not rocket up the boards.

 

The guy that rocketed up the boards based on last year was none other than the Browns boy Mayfield that was considered at best a 3rd round pick last year and became the #1 overall pick.

 

 

[Golden Goat]

We suckered a HIGH 3rd for Tyrod out of these guys.

But yeah, they're brilliant.

[BillsFan17]

Lmao, I'm sure the entire Bills organization drafted a player based on an 0-16 team hyping him up. I tweeted at him directly over this BS.

 

 

Edited April 29, 2018 by BillsFan17

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, Midwest Bills Fan said:

Not sure if this has been posted. This has to be written by a Cleveland writer, but an interesting take on disinformation before the draft.  It could be true, partially true or totally false but still an interesting read. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebiglead.com/2018/04/28/a-conspiracy-theory-on-the-browns-josh-allen-disinformation/amp/

 

I think it's pretty much BS.  The writer thinks pro teams build their draft boards like teenagers looking for prom dates, looking to see who the popular kids to influence who they ask.  I think hype in the media (or reported team interest) has very little effect.

 

Of course Allen may bust.  So may Mayfield - or Darnold, or Rosen.

 

Edit: I do think it might be true that several teams passing a guy may influence other teams - I think they may sometimes start asking "did we miss something?" "maybe our medical dep't was wrong about his knee"

[slaphappy]

It has to be true because ..... 

Quote

Allen shot up mock drafts

 

[PirateHookerMD]

Did they create a smokescreen to reach for Ward too? 

 

No reason to hype a kid when you have the first overall pick. 

[stuvian]

Oh I get it. The 0 - 16 Browns are smarter than the wildcard Bills. You mean those same Browns who passed on Chubb and Barley?

 

Thanks for the update.

 

I think our front office is sophisticated enough to know that everyone is a liar at this time of year.

[CheshireCT]

successful people focus on what they're doing and forget what other people are doing.

[JMF2006]

Well if thats true he out thunk himself.

 

If he really wanted Barkley take him at 1 and let the G Men take DE Chubb.

 

Then the Jests take Darnold and they get Mayfield.

 

What ever the case I think the Browns got Brownsie again at 1 and 4.

[Epstein's Mother]

This is truly one of the dumbest articles I've ever read.  Does anyone think that you have to be that clever when you're picking first?  Are we supposed to think that Dorsey was going to blow up everyone's draft board by choosing Mayfield #1?  It sounds like the columnist thinks Dorsey was playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers.  Not true.

[BuckeyeBill]

Very dumb article and a very dumb writer.  I am sure his goal was to encourage a fan base that has no reason for encouragement lately.

 

Unintelligent statement saying that the Browns passed on Allen twice.  Did he think there was a scenario where the Browns would take a QB at both 1 and 4?  Idiot.

[Doc]

How sad is the field of journalism these days,. sports in particular?

[JMF2006]

7 minutes ago, BuckeyeBill said:

Very dumb article and a very dumb writer.  I am sure his goal was to encourage a fan base that has no reason for encouragement lately.

 

Unintelligent statement saying that the Browns passed on Allen twice.  Did he think there was a scenario where the Browns would take a QB at both 1 and 4?  Idiot.

 

Peter Schreger or what ever his name is suggested it a few weeks ago on GMF

 

The double down double dumb

[JohnC]

There was no conspiracy in Cleveland to outsmart the suitors for Mayfield because even within the scouting departing and front office there was no unanimity on whom to take. As it is often the case there were different voices advocating different selections right up to the end of the process. One of the strongest advocates for Mayfield was Scot McClaughan (sic) who for much of the process favored Mayfield. Dorsey took the input and decided on Mayfield. 

 

The writer in the article who was trying to say something was really saying nothing. 

[Green Lightning]

I am no fan of the Allen pick,  but that was a bunch of Patriot crap. 

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, PirateHookerMD said:

Did they create a smokescreen to reach for Ward too? 

 

No reason to hype a kid when you have the first overall pick. 

The reason was to get Barkley or Mayfield to fall to 4. They realized neither would happen, so they just took their QB first.

 

The write then adds the part about the Bills in the end. It was completely irrelevant to the rest of the article. Odd take.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

40 minutes ago, CheshireCT said:

successful people focus on what they're doing and forget what other people are doing.

 

Well, the draft *IS* impacted by what other people do, so the FOs more or less have to pay attention.

But the argument that the Bills are somehow the dupes of an Allen-love misinformation campaign spearheaded by the Browns is pretty bizzaro

 

if anything, the Browns would have to ack their misinformation campaign flopped miserably, as they clearly lacked confidence that they'd persuaded the Jets (and any teams whose offers the Giants might entertain at #2 after Barkley was off the board) that other QB >>> Mayfield  - which is why they took Mayfield first and lost out on Barkley.

[Bakin]

The Big Lead should change its name to

The Big Load. 

[wppete]