Bakin Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Bills fans don’t have any patience for QB development. And while I’m somewhat indifferent about the selection of Allen - clearly he’s a good kid, prototypical size, rocket arm, loads of potential - my fear is that our fans will give him 8 games and then set his house on fire if he doesn’t look like the 2nd coming of Elway. How many Bills fans would have been ok with Goff starting year 2 - he would have been written off as a bust by 90% of us. So my question to you is - assuming JA starts 2018 - how long do you give Him? 6 games? 3 years? How long can you, as a fan, hold off from the bust or boom label for our potential franchise QB? Edited April 27, 2018 by Bakin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Bakin said: Bills fans don’t have any patience for QB development. And while I’m somewhat indifferent about the selection of Allen - clearly he’s a good kid, prototypical size, rocket arm, loads of potential - my fear is that our fans will give him 8 games and then set his house on fire. How many Bills fans would have been ok with Goff starting year 2 - he would have been written off as a bust by 90% of us. So my question to you is - assuming JA starts 2018 - how long do you give Him? 6 games? 3 years? How long can you, as a fan, hold off from the bust or boom label for our potential franchise QB? It's gonna be a looooooong offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will-GM-for-food Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Have to give him at least a year and a half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 He's not playing this year. Accept that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I have a feeling we'll know who he is in 6 games. That's about how long Manuel got. However, my hope is that McCarron makes Cinci look like fools and Allen never plays a snap. Edited April 27, 2018 by BullBuchanan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 maybe 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Hard to say, but we also need to remember Rosen suffered two concussions already. That may be a problem for him going forward in the NFL. I think Allen is more durable, so you might throw him behind our crappy line earlier and give him this season if he beats out AJ. Edited April 27, 2018 by Murdox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 A year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mij yllek Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 18 years and then the mandatory waiting period for Canton Ohio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 We still haven't won the Super Bowl Is it time to trade up for Rudolph in the second? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 20 - 26 starts like i give every QB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acattack15 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Let him sit for 1 year.... maybe 2yrs.... Investment for the next decade. this pick was about 2019/2020..... be patient and let it play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 After reading the board tonight I think we should trade him to Miami for a conditional 6th rounder. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1,000 attempts. I’m old school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 20 years 8 Super Bowl victories. Edited April 27, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Robotulism Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Training Camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I have a feeling we'll know who he is in 6 games. That's about how long Manuel got. However, my hope is that McCarron makes Cinci look like fools and Allen never plays a snap. It's easier to give someone like Allen alot longer than EJ. EJ had no elite skills. Being that Allen is a height/weight/arm strength prototype, he will naturally get more time imo. 1 minute ago, Murdox said: Hard to say, but we also need to remember Rosen suffered two concussions already. That may be a problem for him going forward in the NFL. I think Allen is more durable, so you might throw him behind our crappy line earlier and give him this season if he beats out AJ. Besides the mentions of Rosen's general douchebaggery, injuries were likely a big factor in why McBeane went with Allen. Even draft grade comparisons put his comp as Bradford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, /dev/null said: We still haven't won the Super Bowl Is it time to trade up for Rudolph in the second? With what all next years picks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Six seconds [/yeezus and the rest of the reactionary crowd] Edited April 27, 2018 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: He's not playing this year. Accept that. I'd bet money he starts on day one, if not day one within 4 or 5 games, we essentially have 2 scrubs that have like 4 games between them, he'll play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: It's easier to give someone like Allen alot longer than EJ. EJ had no elite skills. Being that Allen is a height/weight/arm strength prototype, he will naturally get more time imo. Besides the mentions of Rosen's general douchebaggery, injuries were likely a big factor in why McBeane went with Allen. Even draft grade comparisons put his comp as Bradford. Manuel had prototypical size too. He's a huge dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Acattack15 said: Let him sit for 1 year.... maybe 2yrs.... Investment for the next decade. this pick was about 2019/2020..... be patient and let it play out. that'll never happen, nor should it with no established starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 It's over when he hits the hospitality tent...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, greeneblitz said: I'd bet money he starts on day one, if not day one within 4 or 5 games, we essentially have 2 scrubs that have like 4 games between them, he'll play. He's not ready to start. He's not playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatixs Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 That depends on who is center and left guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bakin said: Bills fans don’t have any patience for QB development. And while I’m somewhat indifferent about the selection of Allen - clearly he’s a good kid, prototypical size, rocket arm, loads of potential - my fear is that our fans will give him 8 games and then set his house on fire if he doesn’t look like the 2nd coming of Elway. How many Bills fans would have been ok with Goff starting year 2 - he would have been written off as a bust by 90% of us. So my question to you is - assuming JA starts 2018 - how long do you give Him? 6 games? 3 years? How long can you, as a fan, hold off from the bust or boom label for our potential franchise QB? The people who don't like him have already given up on him and declared him a failure. He will remain a failure in their eyes until he proves them wrong. So he's already failed in their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Allen will probably play as soon as the floor mat takes out AJ, aka Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I give him as long as he is a Bills QB. Gotta always hope for the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 21 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 36 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I am willing to give him at least 2-3 years, as long as we see some potential and he at least looks like he has a chance of making it as our NFL starting QB. All I want to see is some improvement over time. I was to see Progression, not regression. If he just slowly continues to improve I will be happy and continue to give him time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 After reading some of the posts on here.....I'm already done with him....looking at 2019 QBs.....smh.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: He's not playing this year. Accept that. great. so on top of having the worst mechanics and accuracy out of all his peers drafted in the 1st round, he will be a whole year behind in terms of experience from most of them. Mayfield/Rosen/Darnold are all day 1 starters. Peterman will outplay Allen in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 One BigSnow game. If Katy can do it in one pass with a butterfly plow on, so can Josh! And she's just a tractor. We have 5 cracks @ it this season @ Home in the SnowGlobe called: The OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 37 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 20 - 26 starts like i give every QB so it's safe to say that if I look at your posts, I'll find that you haven't made up your mind on AJ McCarron or Nate Peterman ... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think this is potentially another EJ situation. Allen is an inaccurate passer with a mediocre completion rate. He waaaay overthrows and underthrows open receivers when he's under pressure. He has no one to sit behind for a year or two to learn the game and improve his skills, and if AJ doesn't come through for us, the Bills will throw Allen to the wolves behind a rickety O-line and mostly mediocre receivers. I will be surprised if Allen turns out to be a franchise QB. I think the upside is limited to a "hopefully he won't throw the game away" QB. I am definitely keeping my fingers crossed that the Bills show I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I have a feeling we'll know who he is in 6 games. That's about how long Manuel got. However, my hope is that McCarron makes Cinci look like fools and Allen never plays a snap. AJM could be the next Jimmy G.......lets see what he’s got. Beane signed him pretty cheap compared to most, he might look like a genius when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 He gets 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 years. He won’t see field next season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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