Whoa Josh Allen tweet - If it ain't white; it' aint right - the drop begins

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

John Allen's career is initially going to be 100% about politics and Kapernick now

 

As usual, it will be blown out of proportion and made into something bigger than it is

 

 

 

	Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13)
4/26/18, 7:33 AM The kid wrote those words, that’s the story. He set himself up for whatever came next. If people don’t think this will be an issue in the locker room where he gets drafted they are kidding themselves twitter.com/rosstuckernfl/

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

some of the reactions to this non issue of "old tweets" is a fine example of how soft and thinned skinned society for the most part has become. 

[SouthNYfan]

10 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

I've been on the receiving end of that word a few times. It typically comes from a place of sheer ignorance instead of bigotry. There's a couple of occasions where I've tried to work out why that person said it and try to approach it from their point of view. After all, if they choose to stay ignorant after I've tried to enlighten them, that's on them. I'm not the thought police

 

I've never been hurt by it but I know people who have. It'll probably irk me until the day I die because of that.

 

ABSOLUTELY.

I was just saying that as society I think some things are being desensitized, with songs and tv/movies using it all the time, both derogatory and jokingly in these cases, and I think this seems like a case of that.

He was using it jokingly and/or quoting a song in the other case, and obviously didn't think of the ramifications of it.

Calling somebody the N word (or f*ggot, etc) in a direct, derogatory way is very bad and obviously unacceptable.

Using it the way he did seems pretty obvious that he wasn't using it as hate speech, and more like an ignorant teenager who didn't realize how it might affect somebody, even if it was in poor taste.

6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

	Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13)
4/26/18, 7:33 AM The kid wrote those words, that’s the story. He set himself up for whatever came next. If people don’t think this will be an issue in the locker room where he gets drafted they are kidding themselves twitter.com/rosstuckernfl/

 

I'm sure the guys in the locker room have never said anything disparaging about other races in their lives.

 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Would not shock me at all if this turned out to be the case. 

 

I won't be surprised if he ends up a Saint. They wanted Mahomes last year and Sean Payton is the kind of scumbag that would pull a move like that.

[LabattBlue]

Complete overreaction currently on the NFL Network re: comments made by a 16 year old kid.  Casserly especially over the top.  They're acting like Allen made the comments yesterday...not 6 years ago as a 16 year old teen.  Billick says Allen would have to come into a locker room and apologize to everyone.  Wow.

Edited April 26, 2018 by LabattBlue

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Buffaloflash]

12 hours ago, PIZ said:

Oh no...

 

 

Well they're both socialist,maybe he meant that?

 

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[26TrapDraw]

12 hours ago, mead107 said:

Social media will be the down fall of all 

This is why I have no social media accounts. This colossal loser is so miserable that he is trying to ruin someone's life. What a complete pimple on the ass of society.

[major]

13 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Yea he might take a hit. 

Not might, he will

[Blokestradamus]

15 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

ABSOLUTELY.

I was just saying that as society I think some things are being desensitized, with songs and tv/movies using it all the time, both derogatory and jokingly in these cases, and I think this seems like a case of that.

He was using it jokingly and/or quoting a song in the other case, and obviously didn't think of the ramifications of it.

Calling somebody the N word (or f*ggot, etc) in a direct, derogatory way is very bad and obviously unacceptable.

Using it the way he did seems pretty obvious that he wasn't using it as hate speech, and more like an ignorant teenager who didn't realize how it might affect somebody, even if it was in poor taste.

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If I thought that he meant that as being anti-gay, people would know about it. When you post anything online without context to back it up, you run the risk of it being taken the wrong way. It doesn't seem intentional and malicious so I'd hope that people could take it as it is rather than getting massively offended by it.

 

I'm more interested in who Josh Allen is now. On the surface, he seems to be a pretty decent and grounded guy. You never know someone's true character until you experience it or they expose it (good or bad). He might have an uncomfortable few days ahead fitting into a new locker room with plenty of players wanting to put him on the spot over this. Even if self-inflicted, adversity is a good test of a man. He has a chance to set the record straight behind closed doors.

[OrtonHearsaWho]

3 minutes ago, major said:

Not might, he will

 

You're probably right and I think that's insane.

 

To think that teams would ignore pretty bad game tape on a kid and potentially draft him high because he's big, fast and can throw like a cannon only to then drop him because of something he said IN HIGH SCHOOL just shows how stupid the league is when it comes to running a team and evaluating personnel.

[papazoid]

There’s also something disturbing about anyone going through the tweets of a teenager looking for smear material

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/26/josh-allens-offensive-high-school-tweets-unearthed/

[OrtonHearsaWho]

2 minutes ago, papazoid said:

There’s also something disturbing about anyone going through the tweets of a teenager looking for smear material

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/26/josh-allens-offensive-high-school-tweets-unearthed/

 

You nailed it.

[26CornerBlitz]

[PIZ]

Update to this on NFL.com.

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000928679/article/offensive-tweets-made-in-hs-by-josh-allen-surface

[Nitro]

It is a tempest in a teapot.  Dumb things said by a 15 year old.  He has not exhibited behavior in college to indicate that he is a racist goon.  Kids say and do dumb things. 

1 hour ago, BeefCurtns said:

This is why I have no social media accounts. This colossal loser is so miserable that he is trying to ruin someone's life. What a complete pimple on the ass of society.

No twitter or instagram here.  I FB but it is pretty vanilla. There are people out there sifting through thousands of tweets to try and ruin a kid.  Pathetic.

[416BillsFan]

The tweats themselves I can chalk up to idiotic teenager behavior. The fact that he wasn't smart enough not to scrub them (way) before the draft process is a huge red flag. That Tom Condon didn't order an employee to look through Allen's social media months ago though is the biggest surprise by far.

[BuffaloRebound]

Whether you like him or not, this will be forgotten in a week.  Tweets by a 16 year old are irrelevant and honestly it should be borderline illegal for minors to post on social media and should definitely be illegal for adults to be searching social media posts by a minor.  

[26CornerBlitz]

Agency malpractice.

 

[C.Biscuit97]

It’s hilarious watching all these people who built up this 56% passer in the mountain West fall all over themselves defending him.

 

Its responsible for what he put out but it’s not that big of deal.  I just can’t think of a college qb who had such a meh career in a meh conference get so much love.

[DriveFor1Outta5]

25 minutes ago, 416BillsFan said:

The tweats themselves I can chalk up to idiotic teenager behavior. The fact that he wasn't smart enough not to scrub them (way) before the draft process is a huge red flag. That Tom Condon didn't order an employee to look through Allen's social media months ago though is the biggest surprise by far.

I agree, what shouldn’t be forgotten is his completion percentage. 

[#34fan]

High School... I sure many of us did WAY worse when we were there.

[baskingridgebillsfan]

at least he could have pick a good one like White Riot by the Clash 

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

They said the same thing about Tim Tebow. And????

 

 

What they actually said about Tebow was that because he was trying to improve his mechanics he wouldn't be throwing at the combine. See the difference there ...  Allen had already improved by the Senior Bowl and again at the combine? Then later they said Tebow's with the Broncos and trying to fix his mechanics. Then two or three more times they said he was working on his mechanics, but he was still working on it years later, well after it became obvious that he did have accuracy problems but that his main problem wasn't so much his accuracy but more an inability to go through progressions and make good decisions

 

 

You know who else they said had improved their mechanics? Tom Brady. And Aaron Rodgers too. Plenty of very successful others as well.

 

Look, your argument has been butt stupid from the beginning. I said he'd improved. You denied that, which was just stupid. It's something everyone who's looked at him progress through the offseason has said. It's a fact, he's improved.

 

I had gone out of my way to say that his improvement didn't prove that he would be a success. That it still had to stick and it might not, but that he had absolutely improved. And now you're trying to make a point by pointing out that some guys who improved didn't succeed? Wow, if I hadn't already said that, you'd really have made a point against me.

 

You've lost this argument already. The point you made was that he hadn't improved. Which is wrong. Now you're trying to switch the ground of the argument, a loser's argument, but you're also switching it to say something I've already said. Hard to lose an argument more conclusively than that.

 

All I've said is that he'd clearly improved, and that that didn't prove he would succeed but that plenty of guys who'd wanted to improve their accuracy by working on their mechanics had never really showed improvement. Allen has. If you want to reply to me, disagree with some of this. 

 

 

 

There are some perfectly reasonable arguments against Allen. This isn't one of them. Nor are the tweets unless he turns out to actually be a racist rather than to have said something stupid one time while 16.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Thurman#1

[Buffalo Ballin]

Josh Allen is a bust. I don't care about his tweets. He sucks anyway. He should go undrafted. Allen played in a weak @$$ conference with weak stats. He's a camp arm.

[MAJBobby]

29 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

What they actually said about Tebow was that because he was trying to improve his mechanics he wouldn't be throwing at the combine. See the difference there ...  Allen had already improved by the Senior Bowl and again at the combine? Then later they said Tebow's with the Broncos and trying to fix his mechanics. Then two or three more times they said he was working on his mechanics, but he was still working on it years later, well after it became obvious that he did have accuracy problems but that his main problem wasn't so much his accuracy but more an inability to go through progressions and make good decisions

 

 

You know who else they said had improved their mechanics? Tom Brady. And Aaron Rodgers too. Plenty of very successful others as well.

 

Look, your argument has been butt stupid from the beginning. I said he'd improved. You denied that, which was just stupid. It's something everyone who's looked at him progress through the offseason has said. It's a fact, he's improved.

 

I had gone out of my way to say that his improvement didn't prove that he would be a success. That it still had to stick and it might not, but that he had absolutely improved. And now you're trying to make a point by pointing out that some guys who improved didn't succeed? Wow, if I hadn't already said that, you'd really have made a point against me.

 

You've lost this argument already. The point you made was that he hadn't improved. Which is wrong. Now you're trying to switch the ground of the argument, a loser's argument, but you're also switching it to say something I've already said. Hard to lose an argument more conclusively than that.

 

All I've said is that he'd clearly improved, and that that didn't prove he would succeed but that plenty of guys who'd wanted to improve their accuracy by working on their mechanics had never really showed improvement. Allen has. If you want to reply to me, disagree with some of this. 

 

 

 

There are some perfectly reasonable arguments against Allen. This isn't one of them. Nor are the tweets unless he turns out to actually be a racist rather than to have said something stupid one time while 16.

There is absolutely ZERO way to say he as improved until people are in pads and coming at him at football speed not in shorts in a controlled environment.

[scribo]

"I won't have Twitter or Facebook or anything..." Blah, blah, blah. How about you just don't write crap you're going to be embarrassed by? How about know who you want to be and act in that way? And be accountable if you don't -- rather than blame the platform on which you showed your ass.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I don't see what the big deal is, Allen was talking about X-Mas. He's absolutely right, if it's not white on Christmas it's not right.

[LabattBlue]

19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Once again, Casserly is acting like this tweet happened yesterday.  It was 6 years ago and Allen was 16 at the time. BFD!!!!!  Shouldn't even need to be addressed to the team or media.

Edited April 26, 2018 by LabattBlue

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

 

 

Not being real if you don't think the team and Allen himself will be asked about this. 

[Albwan]

UH - OH you just can't say white ...he will never be able to pull a joy reid, neither

 

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                BOOM>>>>>heads esplodin

 

 

GAIS LETS GET HIM !

Edited April 26, 2018 by Albwan

[LabattBlue]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Not being real if you don't think the team and Allen himself will be asked about this. 

I didn't say that.  I said it "shouldn't" have to be addressed.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

I didn't say that.  I said it "shouldn't" have to be addressed.

 

It is what it is. Temporary hiccup. 

[Augie]

Allen scares me. If this is what it takes to get us to pass, I’m glad it came out. (Not that this will matter.)

 

If we do end up drafting Allen (as D. Jeremiah and Mayock currently predict), I’ll pray that there’s a big serving of crow in my future. 

[billieve420]

Well at least it wasn't Josh with this racist prom proposal to his High school GF.

 

https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/noah-crowley-isabella-vinalli-racist-promposal/?b2np=d

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Irv]

PR nightmare for the NFL and the Browns if he goes #1

[LabattBlue]

2 minutes ago, Irv said:

PR nightmare for the NFL and the Browns if he goes #1

Not really, but feel free to overreact.