BillsFan17 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Charlottebillsfan2 said: If the Bills end up with Darnold no chance I work on Friday. I live in Cornelius, I think Tavern on the tracks will literally be insane Friday until Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I really believe this is gonna be a draft that puts out more then 3 starting NFL qbs when it is all said and done. Trent Dilfer sees 6 quality qbs coming out of this draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, BillsFan17 said: I live in Cornelius, I think Tavern on the tracks will literally be insane Friday until Monday. Yeah that and Lebowskis will be crazy for the next 2 weeks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said: Wow. Not that I want the Jets or Phins to be good. But it would be pretty cool seeing Mayfield, Darnold, and Rosen fighting it out in the AFC East for the next ten years, while the Pats fade into oblivion. I know it's unlikely that all three will pan out anyway. But it would give us the most interesting division for a little while at least. It would be nice to see the AFCE regain some glory. I hope our young QB is the one to knock Brady off his pedestal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said: Wow. Not that I want the Jets or Phins to be good. But it would be pretty cool seeing Mayfield, Darnold, and Rosen fighting it out in the AFC East for the next ten years, while the Pats fade into oblivion. I know it's unlikely that all three will pan out anyway. But it would give us the most interesting division for a little while at least. I think its very likely that all three QBs end up to the Bills, Jets and Dolphins. No one talks about the Dolphins much, but there's no way that Gase is sticking with Tannehill, and it seems that Rosen will be well within the target of them trading up. The kicker would be if the Patriots drafted Lamar Jackson. I could see Belichick really craving the challenge of winning with a whole new offensive system, especially with Jackson's skill set. He's been there done that with the "old school" drop back QB. The AFC East would be cra-cra if this happened. Edited April 20, 2018 by 1billsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, SWATeam said: With our luck, all three will suck and the Kyle Lauletta led Pats* will dominate the division for the next decade. Ha ha. That did cross my mind. Ongoing traumatic stress syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo39416 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, DougFlutie7 said: Allen can NOT be a plan B!!! He’s the worst damn QB in this entire draft. A touch over dramatic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Darnold would be by third, (after Mayfield and Rosen) but your logic is likely spot-on. And I'd be fine with Darnold. didn't this happen to Jim Kelly also?? Yeah. Kelly wanted to play for Penn State but they wanted him to play linebacker. In fact, I think several schools had the intention of switching his position. Miami was one of the only "big name" schools to come through with a scholarship and the guarantee that he would stay at QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I'm sure the Bills would love that too, I just don't see any feasible way in which that's possible. Unless the Bills are ready to give up their future drafts to get him, the cost is likely way too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: The Bills will probably at least have to throw in a pair of Sketchers horseshoes for equine-faced Elway in order to seal a deal... He not only looks like one but is known to act like an A$$ as well. I wouldn't wait to trade with this guy while on the clock at pick 5. I would rather deal with Cleveland or NYG to get in front of him. I think Denver has done way too much work this off season on college QBs to pass on one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) I tolerated 45 min of Cavs talk to give you this tidbit from Dustin Fox’s show. So you better appreciate it. lol. He said wrt to his tweet about Browns and Mayfield/Allen... he talked to two people with connections to the Browns (who do not know each other) and they both gave them those two names. He said he believes Allen is the pick. mayfield is the alternate if they trade out of 1 and Allen is gone when they pick. Btw I haven’t looked at the Tyrod thread but the Browns are really parading him around as the QB ... it’s nothing like how the Bills are presenting AJ. Fwiw they are totally setting it up as the guy they draft is some developmental guy. Edited April 20, 2018 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I thought tolerated 45 min of Cavs talk to five uoy this tidbit from Dustin Fox’s show. So you better appreciate it. lol. He said wrt to his tweet about Browns and Mayfield/Allen... he talked to two people with connections to the Browns (who do not know each other) and they both gave them those two names. He said he believes Allen is the pick. mayfield is the alternate if they trade out of 1 and Allen is gone when they pick. Another day of bloody marys? I kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Another day of bloody marys? I kid Not today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Cleveland. Allen Giants. Barkley Jets. Rosen Cleveland. Chubb Buffalo via trade. Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Sam Darnold needs one of these helmets to play LB on defense. Edited April 20, 2018 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, dezertbill said: Cleveland. Allen Giants. Barkley Jets. Rosen Cleveland. Chubb Buffalo via trade. Darnold Mayfield Fixed that for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 hours ago, kdiggz said: interceptions and fumbles don't bother anybody? how about the wonky throwing motion and poor footwork in the pocket? not worth trading all of those extra picks over someone like Rosen. would be a very poor decision based on where we are picking in this draft. if we were picking #1 and we had our choice then fine you can talk yourself into him maybe but the extra picks make it not worth it value-wise. Rosen is the best QB in the draft and he will be available at 5 The fumbles bother me, but I am fairly certain the interception rate is on par with Rosens. So if that bothers you about Darnold it should with Rosen as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) Help shed some light on the turnover ratio per attempt for these QBs. Edited April 20, 2018 by BillsFan17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The fumbles bother me, but I am fairly certain the interception rate is on par with Rosens. So if that bothers you about Darnold it should with Rosen as well. Nope. See above. Rosen's strength is that he puts the ball where others can't get it. Darnold makes far more bonehead plays where you are like what the heck was he thinking on that one. Reminds me of Fitzpatrick in that regard. And the kicker is that Darnold's offense is far more completion friendly. It's a lot of quick throws and crossing routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I tolerated 45 min of Cavs talk to give you this tidbit from Dustin Fox’s show. So you better appreciate it. lol. He said wrt to his tweet about Browns and Mayfield/Allen... he talked to two people with connections to the Browns (who do not know each other) and they both gave them those two names. He said he believes Allen is the pick. mayfield is the alternate if they trade out of 1 and Allen is gone when they pick. Btw I haven’t looked at the Tyrod thread but the Browns are really parading him around as the QB ... it’s nothing like how the Bills are presenting AJ. Fwiw they are totally setting it up as the guy they draft is some developmental guy. Tyrod with receivers he doesn't have to throw open..........I can understand the optimism. Bills need a QB who can throw THRU defenders to get their garbage WR corps open. Easy to see the lack of optimism for AJ who was pretty meh with a top 5 WR/TE corps in Cinci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: Fixed that for you. Don’t mind it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, dezertbill said: Cleveland. Allen Giants. Barkley Jets. Rosen Cleveland. Chubb Buffalo via trade. Darnold The Jets are not drafting Rosen. The Jets owner is a friend of Trump, Trump named him the ambassador to Ireland, and Rosen once wore a hat that said "@#$! Trump". The Jets will be drafting either Darnold or Mayfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DougFlutie7 said: Allen can NOT be a plan B!!! He’s the worst damn QB in this entire draft. First, I think "worst QB in the draft" is an overstatement. "Worst of the big four" is one thing, but worst in the whole draft? C'mon, man. Second, I'm not saying what I would do (I don't like Allen), I'm saying what I feel the Bills would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I tolerated 45 min of Cavs talk to give you this tidbit from Dustin Fox’s show. So you better appreciate it. lol. He said wrt to his tweet about Browns and Mayfield/Allen... he talked to two people with connections to the Browns (who do not know each other) and they both gave them those two names. He said he believes Allen is the pick. mayfield is the alternate if they trade out of 1 and Allen is gone when they pick. Btw I haven’t looked at the Tyrod thread but the Browns are really parading him around as the QB ... it’s nothing like how the Bills are presenting AJ. Fwiw they are totally setting it up as the guy they draft is some developmental guy. could be smoke to make other teams believe they're set at QB and may not draft one in the first round? whadda, whadda, whadda you say? Edited April 20, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: could be smoke to make other teams believe they're set at QB and may not draft one in the first round? whadda, whadda, whadda you say? Hue Jackson all but said the 1st pick is a QB. They aren't trying to convince people they aren't taking a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, dezertbill said: Cleveland. Allen Giants. Barkley Jets. Rosen Cleveland. Chubb Buffalo via trade. Darnold I think Giants take Darnold at #2 if Allen goes #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, cle23 said: Hue Jackson all but said the 1st pick is a QB. They aren't trying to convince people they aren't taking a QB. They're now trying to convince people that they're going QB at 1 & 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Is he talking about after his career is over as a coach for the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I think we get to pick No. 4, and RJ White on CBS Sports thinks it will only cost No. 12, No. 96, and next years 1st. No way the Browns will able to afford the fifth year option on two top 10 picks at premium positions. The option cost on No. 12 is a different story. Courtesy of ProFootballRumors.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: interceptions and fumbles don't bother anybody? how about the wonky throwing motion and poor footwork in the pocket? not worth trading all of those extra picks over someone like Rosen. would be a very poor decision based on where we are picking in this draft. if we were picking #1 and we had our choice then fine you can talk yourself into him maybe but the extra picks make it not worth it value-wise. Rosen is the best QB in the draft and he will be available at 5 Why is Rosen more and more the one of the "big 4" to most likely fall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 If Rosen will be Brady...Darnold will be Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastorMKC Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, jkirchofer said: I think we get to pick No. 4, and RJ White on CBS Sports thinks it will only cost No. 12, No. 96, and next years 1st. No way the Browns will able to afford the fifth year option on two top 10 picks at premium positions. The option cost on No. 12 is a different story. Courtesy of ProFootballRumors.com Your dreaming if that all you think your giving up to move from 12 to 4, I I could see 12, 22, and next years 1 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: this is what i fear. at that point it is my own personal bias but there is no way anyone could convince me that Darnold is so much better than Rosen that you would give up potentially an extra 1st and 2nd rounder for him. that's obscene. BTW, I agree with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Why is Rosen more and more the one of the "big 4" to most likely fall? Front office guys and scouts thinking they are psychologists rather than just a bunch of dumb former jocks. Aaron Rodgers fell for similar reasons. You can't predict the future and you can't get inside someone's mind so drafting someone based on what could happen is silly. Edited April 20, 2018 by kdiggz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, PastorMKC said: Your dreaming if that all you think your giving up to move from 12 to 4, I I could see 12, 22, and next years 1 ... 12, 22, and next years 1st is what I would pay to get to 2 overall. Taking on 12 and 22 this years in addition to one puts Cleveland in the same boat as staying at 1 and 4, that fifth year option money is going to hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, PastorMKC said: Your dreaming if that all you think your giving up to move from 12 to 4, I I could see 12, 22, and next years 1 ... You must be a Cleveland fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: Lol what? The Browns are a mess. These 2 players are TOTAL OPPOSITES. How can you be deciding between 2 completely different players? Josh Allen: Tall, big hands, poor college stats Baker Mayfield: Short, small hands, amazing college stats What do they value? How can they be zeroing in on polar opposites? If they value big strong players then that imediately disqualified Mayfield. If they value completion percentage then Allen is off the board. This is bizarre even for Cleveland I don't buy that rumor. Makes no sense. If it is true they should trade that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, cle23 said: Hue Jackson all but said the 1st pick is a QB. They aren't trying to convince people they aren't taking a QB. I was actually being kind of facetious but will add that what any coach or gm is saying at this point, I take with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I was actually being kind of facetious but will add that what any coach or gm is saying at this point, I take with a grain of salt. Whoa. You have 666 "likes". Scary bro, Scary! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, billsherd said: If Rosen will be Brady...Darnold will be Manning Then Rosen is the easy choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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