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4 minutes ago, bills in oregon said:

 I don’t live in Buffalo but I’m curious would you want a dome, open air or a retractable roof.  I personally would like to see the bills get a new stadium and possibly retractable roof definitely leave it open when the warm weather teams come to town .

  I am not expecting NYS to do much of anything in regards to a new stadium so the more expensive options such as retractable roof are not going to happen.  I am thinking it will be a dome to get expanded use such as that will be.

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Whatever Pegula and his fracking empire are willing to pay 100% for, I don't care. Then I can walk away from the certain PSL attached to me ST and be happy. But hitting me up as  taxpayer and then as a ST for a PSL is horse bleep. I'd give my season willingly either way on a dome. 

 

And a dome isn't getting used in Bflo, NY for "other" things. Anyone who can sell out an NFL stadium doesn't come to Bflo. Hell most who try can't even sell out the arena. 

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Retractable roof would be my choice. 

 

I have read talk of the possibility of a new stadium doubling as a convention center for Buffalo (since a new one is needed anyway), which would make a lot of sense. 

 

If it a  avenue that can be used for much more than just football, that helps make the tax payer money that will be used more palatable. 

 

But i I do think the cold, snowy, windy Buffalo weather can also be used to our advantage (especially with McDermott following Belichick's lead and making his team practice out in the elements here).

 

So a retractable roof would be the best of both worlds IMO. 

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4 minutes ago, zonabb said:

Whatever Pegula and his fracking empire are willing to pay 100% for, I don't care. Then I can walk away from the certain PSL attached to me ST and be happy. But hitting me up as  taxpayer and then as a ST for a PSL is horse bleep. I'd give my season willingly either way on a dome. 

 

And a dome isn't getting used in Bflo, NY for "other" things. Anyone who can sell out an NFL stadium doesn't come to Bflo. Hell most who try can't even sell out the arena. 

 

Huh?

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Retractable roof is ideal just so you can have open air games when the weather is still nice in Sept and October, but I agree that it would likely push the cost to be too great and it'll end up being a dome, which is fine.  I just don't want a new open air stadium, at very least it should be a dome.

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Please. Is this a joke. 

 

Buffalo can’t afford a new stadium. Their economy has been stagnant for 40 years. The local politicians are too selfish and dumb to understand the trickle affects of building a new stadium, they will refuse any public money be given. 

 

Pegs will use this as his excuse to Initiate talks for moving the team to a more “sustainable” city with a “bright” future. 

 

Buffalo is not that. Complete opposite amof. 

 

Please.  New stadium on buffalo. Hahaha. 

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4 minutes ago, essential said:

Retractable roof is ideal just so you can have open air games when the weather is still nice in Sept and October, but I agree that it would likely push the cost to be too great and it'll end up being a dome, which is fine.  I just don't want a new open air stadium, at very least it should be a dome.

 

I'm not positive but I think most retractable roof stadiums are in warm weather areas.  I think the roof is typically closed to escape the heat.  Could be wrong.

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Problem is. I don’t think the retractable dimes can really open in the times that we would want them open. If your asking for it to be open in December when the Dolphins come here. It most likely won’t happen. Back when they played in Toronto I remember them saying they couldn’t open the dome there after it reaches certain temperatures because of failures opening or closing or leaks being created. So the retractable is a waste then.  Might as well just be a dome and leave it at that. 

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11 minutes ago, zonabb said:

Whatever Pegula and his fracking empire are willing to pay 100% for, I don't care. Then I can walk away from the certain PSL attached to me ST and be happy. But hitting me up as  taxpayer and then as a ST for a PSL is horse bleep. I'd give my season willingly either way on a dome. 

 

And a dome isn't getting used in Bflo, NY for "other" things. Anyone who can sell out an NFL stadium doesn't come to Bflo. Hell most who try can't even sell out the arena. 

 

It all depends the amount in each bucket. To simply say both can’t be used is silly 

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Dome.  

 

The former Civic Arena in Pittsburgh had a retractable roof.  It was used like 3 times (should have been used more, IMO).  

 

At any rate, a Dome is great.  Can be used for other things (Niagara Region Final 4, indoor monster truck things, concert, etc.)    

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35 minutes ago, zonabb said:

Whatever Pegula and his fracking empire are willing to pay 100% for, I don't care. Then I can walk away from the certain PSL attached to me ST and be happy. But hitting me up as  taxpayer and then as a ST for a PSL is horse bleep. I'd give my season willingly either way on a dome. 

I do LOVE this post

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26 minutes ago, mrags said:

Problem is. I don’t think the retractable dimes can really open in the times that we would want them open. If your asking for it to be open in December when the Dolphins come here. It most likely won’t happen. Back when they played in Toronto I remember them saying they couldn’t open the dome there after it reaches certain temperatures because of failures opening or closing or leaks being created. So the retractable is a waste then.  Might as well just be a dome and leave it at that. 

 

 

Went to Houston’s stadium and it was a a perfect day but since it rained earlier in the week they couldn’t open it 

 

retractable is pointless go fancy dome stadium or open air make your choice and live with it 

 

my choice would be open air but you can host less events but this could hurt the sabres arena events (not sure of name Anymore)

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53 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

I want a modern dome like we are seeing nowadays. With giant glass walls to let in natural light. Do that and you have a winner. 

 

Like in Minny. Nice barn. Could definitely see that next to Key Bank Center. 

 

The days of the frozen tundra are over. No one wants to play in that crap, much less sit outside freezing watching it. I know I don't. Permanent roof, all the way.

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1 hour ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:

Dome is the best option. No reason to spend the extra taxpayer dollars for a retractable roof because of this myth of "Buffalo weather advantage", and open air downtown pretty much guarantees that the only thing it can be used for is Bills games.

 

Myth of "weather advantage"?    You might want to check the history of Miami visits in late November and December.  The Raiders and Chargers are other teams that struggle in winter weather.

 

That being said, I relocated many years ago and haven't attended a game in Orchard Park since Thanksgiving weekend of 1996 but that game is imprinted in my memory as it was so cold, even my family and friends who were residents wanted to leave after the 3rd Qtr.  

 

I think it would make sense to go with a dome.  I'm sure some decision makers in Minneapolis may be 2nd guessing their replacing of the Metrodome with an open air baseball stadium.

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1 hour ago, zonabb said:

Whatever Pegula and his fracking empire are willing to pay 100% for, I don't care. Then I can walk away from the certain PSL attached to me ST and be happy. But hitting me up as  taxpayer and then as a ST for a PSL is horse bleep. I'd give my season willingly either way on a dome. 

 

And a dome isn't getting used in Bflo, NY for "other" things. Anyone who can sell out an NFL stadium doesn't come to Bflo. Hell most who try can't even sell out the arena. 

New Era Field has been home to concerts by the Rolling Stones, One Direction, Guns n Roses, and U2 over the last couple years. And Jay Z and Beyonce will be there this summer. So the last part of your statement is absolutely inaccurate 

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I can’t believe everyone wanting a dome. Part of Bills history is weather. Could you ever see Green Bay building a dome or retractable roof? Hell no. Open air. Even pussies like Tom Brady play outside in the elements. And yes it’s cold and snowy in New England too. NO DOME!!!! 

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29 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said:

 

Myth of "weather advantage"?    You might want to check the history of Miami visits in late November and December.  The Raiders and Chargers are other teams that struggle in winter weather.

 

That being said, I relocated many years ago and haven't attended a game in Orchard Park since Thanksgiving weekend of 1996 but that game is imprinted in my memory as it was so cold, even my family and friends who were residents wanted to leave after the 3rd Qtr.  

 

I think it would make sense to go with a dome.  I'm sure some decision makers in Minneapolis may be 2nd guessing their replacing of the Metrodome with an open air baseball stadium.

 

I'm pretty sure you're just saying this rather than actually having facts. Outside of Jim Kelly's era, I doubt the Bills have a greater winning percentage at home in December vs the Dolphins if you could hold for regular home field advantage variables. It's not some amazing win percentage other wise we would all know it, and it'd be put on the TV during every Bills home game vs the Dolphins in December.

8 minutes ago, 4:20 said:

I can’t believe everyone wanting a dome. Part of Bills history is weather. Could you ever see Green Bay building a dome or retractable roof? Hell no. Open air. Even pussies like Tom Brady play outside in the elements. And yes it’s cold and snowy in New England too. NO DOME!!!! 

 

Great first post. I'm sure you'll add a lot of valuable insight. 

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2 hours ago, zonabb said:

Whatever Pegula and his fracking empire are willing to pay 100% for, I don't care. Then I can walk away from the certain PSL attached to me ST and be happy. But hitting me up as  taxpayer and then as a ST for a PSL is horse bleep. I'd give my season willingly either way on a dome. 

 

And a dome isn't getting used in Bflo, NY for "other" things. Anyone who can sell out an NFL stadium doesn't come to Bflo. Hell most who try can't even sell out the arena. 

The Stones came to Buffalo and attracted a huge crowd. The problem isn’t Buffalo, the problem is a crap music industry. Building a stadium anywhere with the idea of getting entertainment acts is an invalid reason to build these days. A new stadium will built with the sole intention of corporate cash and seat licenses. It’s all about more cash in the league’s pocket. They couldn’t care less about what it provides to the community. 

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30 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I'm pretty sure you're just saying this rather than actually having facts. Outside of Jim Kelly's era, I doubt the Bills have a greater winning percentage at home in December vs the Dolphins if you could hold for regular home field advantage variables. It's not some amazing win percentage other wise we would all know it, and it'd be put on the TV during every Bills home game vs the Dolphins in December.

 

Great first post. I'm sure you'll add a lot of valuable insight. 

Just my opinion. Football should be played outdoors

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As people get older they want warmer, more comfortable stadiums.

 

I like the Ralph and think they could do one more renovation to it (allowing a warming area for all fans) and it would be perfect for me.

 

These new stadiums are so glitzy and bright and there's electronics absolutely everywhere--I like tailgating, going in the stadium for 3.5 hours, get a few beers, a sandwich and leave.

 

8 times per year, maybe 10 if you have a great team.  That totals about 30 hours of total football time per year:    we don't need to spend stupid money so we can be a little more comfortable for 24-30 hours a year.   

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Open air, in Letchworth State Park.  Follow the money, connect the dots, and buy land now!!

 

:beer:

 

For real though, something like the Vikings stadium all day - that translucent roof is something else in real life.  That, and the big doors in the front make it feel like you're outdoors.  Plus it's all new and shiny and nice :D

 

For those that are interested, roof tech:  https://www.wired.com/2016/09/vikings-stadium-roof/

 

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