formerlyofCtown Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc said: That's overpaying by 180 points. The chart is just a base. The Jets set the market at 600 to 800 over value. Which at this point seems foolish but if they think there is a big difference between guys for them then they did what they had to. Beane obviously didn't feel it was worth it at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, buffalover4life said: Whatever it takes if he makes it past the jets. Its not an easy process to acquire this draft capitol and it will only get harder to get as we continue to win and players become staples of this franchise. Now or never you can not force another team with a top 5 pick to trade with you. The Bills did not have what the Colts wanted, a top ten pick. I would laugh my butt off if the Browns and Giants both end up taking QBs and the Jets wasted all of that draft capital to not get their guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: you can not force another team with a top 5 pick to trade with you. The Bills did not have what the Colts wanted, a top ten pick. I would laugh my butt off if the Browns and Giants both end up taking QBs and the Jets wasted all of that draft capital to not get their guy. The jets just did force the colts hand with "all that wasted draft capital". They obviously, like me, believe there are three "turn key" franchise QBs in this draft. You don't give up that capitol without a 100% chance that you're gonna get one of your guys. 1.)Baker Mayfield 2.)Josh Rosen 3.)Sam Darnold Ready to throw in Round 1 for next year to get to pick #2. All in on our Franchise QB or go after Lamar Jackson at 8 or 9....because he is the most exciting player I have ever seen Edited March 19, 2018 by buffalover4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr_Robotulism said: His height is irrelevant to me, OU had 6'7" linemen and he didn't get many balls batted down The majority of his throws he had massive passing windows. Second half vs GA. They control rushef him and contained him in the pocket and it was a struggle. Thats what concerns me. I dont hate mayfield but i dont love him to trade top 5 for. 8 or 9? Sure. Keep 22 and get a QB is my new train of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Those guys are Chefs not Bakers bakers wear them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Doc said: That's overpaying by 180 points. Dude, that is like buying a Ferrari and telling the dealer he can keep the $10 in change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I’m not high on him. I think he slips, not far, but he slips. Denver is the wild card, I think they love him. If he makes it past 5, I think he makes it to Buffalo at 12. I wouldnt mind grabbing him there, but no trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: They are committed to Tannehill. https://sportsnaut.com/2018/01/dolphins-commit-ryan-tannehill-starter-next-season/ The article says (and there are such things as smoke screens, but let's assume they're being honest) they're committed to to Tannehill ... as starter ... for next year. That wouldn't prevent them from taking a QB early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 To the Jets at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This would be the best case scenario as I see it right now. 1.) Browns - Darnold 2.) Giants - Barkley 3.) Jets - Allen 4.) We trade #12, #22, a 2nd, a 3rd, and next years 1st to trade up for Rosen or Mayfield (I think both will be franchise QB's although I prefer the most pro ready in Rosen) I stopped reading right here on the first page but I'll read the rest but I just want to immediatley say !@#$ that to your suggestion. I know it costs a lot to move up but you lose me when you give them all that plus next year's #1 for Mayfield. No !@#$ing way dude. No. Although I can live with that for Rosen. Still feel that first next year is too rich for me though. I'll take Rudolph or Jackson later and build my team thanks. Edited March 19, 2018 by beerme1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It's so great we finally have a Baker Mayfield thread. And we don't even need words to get the conversation going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This would be the best case scenario as I see it right now. 1.) Browns - Darnold 2.) Giants - Barkley 3.) Jets - Allen 4.) We trade #12, #22, a 2nd, a 3rd, and next years 1st to trade up for Rosen or Mayfield (I think both will be franchise QB's although I prefer the most pro ready in Rosen) Best case scenario is Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield fall to #6 and we give the Colts a 2nd this yr #53 and a 2nd next yr and we go up and get one of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: It's so great we finally have a Baker Mayfield thread. And we don't even need words to get the conversation going! I guess you're right. All of TBD originals should just wait this crap out. F that. Out em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Mat68 said: The majority of his throws he had massive passing windows. Second half vs GA. They control rushef him and contained him in the pocket and it was a struggle. Thats what concerns me. I dont hate mayfield but i dont love him to trade top 5 for. 8 or 9? Sure. Keep 22 and get a QB is my new train of thought. This is spot on. They also switched to more man coverage, which he struggled with. So much so that Lincoln Riley took the ball out of his hands at crunch time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 13 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This would be the best case scenario as I see it right now. 1.) Browns - Darnold 2.) Giants - Barkley 3.) Jets - Allen 4.) We trade #12, #22, a 2nd, a 3rd, and next years 1st to trade up for Rosen or Mayfield (I think both will be franchise QB's although I prefer the most pro ready in Rosen) that would be a ridiculous amount to give up for 4, almost double the amount of value. The jets got ripped off but not even close to that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pbomb said: that would be a ridiculous amount to give up for 4, almost double the amount of value. The jets got ripped off but not even close to that bad. I agree that’s too entirely much for 8 spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) I am not sure he makes it out of the top 3 but if he does I am all for it. At this point we have to assume the draft will go QB QB QB to start. Will one of those be Allen? 13 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This would be the best case scenario as I see it right now. 1.) Browns - Darnold 2.) Giants - Barkley 3.) Jets - Allen 4.) We trade #12, #22, a 2nd, a 3rd, and next years 1st to trade up for Rosen or Mayfield (I think both will be franchise QB's although I prefer the most pro ready in Rosen) We have to assume the Jets gave the Giants the same offer and since they obviously turned the Jets down I think you have to assume they are going QB. Or less likely they want better value from the Bills. I don't see them taking Barkley no matter what his shorts workout was. I think the top three will be Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield. Edited March 19, 2018 by mattynh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 14 hours ago, BakersBills said: I think he falls outside top 5 Based on everything Beane has said since he arrived in Buffalo, I think he has the longest odds of playing for the Bills....even more so than Josh Allen. In another thread the OP did a nice job of posting several transcripts of Beane's interviews dating back to last May, it's pretty clear Jackson and Mayfield are not the prototypes Beane is looking for....could he Draft one or the other, of course....but I think he will? No, I don't...and if you read the interviews objectively, I think you come to the same conclusion. As a side note: personally, I like Jackson and those who say he's a runner, don't watch the video and you don't listen to his coach on how Jackson progressed playing in the pocket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: Based on everything Beane has said since he arrived in Buffalo, I think he has the longest odds of playing for the Bills....even more so than Josh Allen. In another thread the OP did a nice job of posting several transcripts of Beane's interviews dating back to last May, it's pretty clear Jackson and Mayfield are not the prototypes Beane is looking for....could he Draft one or the other, of course....but I think he will? No, I don't...and if you read the interviews objectively, I think you come to the same conclusion. As a side note: personally, I like Jackson and those who say he's a runner, don't watch the video and you don't listen to his coach on how Jackson progressed playing in the pocket. Totally agree. I like Lamar a lot but i really don’t think the Bills do. With mayfield I go back and forth. I don’t think he’s their first choice and don’t think they’d give up assets for him, but they could take him if he’s there at 12. Edited March 19, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatixs Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 8:08 AM, TheTruthHurts said: Air Raid Offense. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/graham-harrell-1.html https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/luke-falk-1.html I appreciate the comparison and it is certainly fair, but Harrell was known as a one read QB, unable to see the rest of the field. I have seen Mayfield read 3 and 4 and even come back to first in short order. Hawaii had a QB with insane numbers about 8 years back, forget the name. He was drafted very late and never became a starter. The stats are only part of the eqation, and maybe Bake will flop too. But I personally bet the over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 This seems plausible for Baker Mayfield fans. In @DannyBKelly’s second mock NFL draft of the year, he looks at which franchise quarterbacks the Jets and Bills will land: https://t.co/sjw3H6exNI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 BIG12 may be the worst defensive conference in the NCAA and yes that includes Mountain West and PAC12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Personally I believe he'll go to the Giants. 1. Darnold 2. Mayfield 3. Rosen 4. Barkley 5. Chubb 6. Nelson 7. Fitzpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Gross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 9:12 PM, Mat68 said: The majority of his throws he had massive passing windows. Second half vs GA. They control rushef him and contained him in the pocket and it was a struggle. Thats what concerns me. I dont hate mayfield but i dont love him to trade top 5 for. 8 or 9? Sure. Keep 22 and get a QB is my new train of thought. I could care less about his height but this observation matters. In one full game clip I watched several days ago, I noticed all his passes from the pocket were out wide, all his passes to the middle were on roll outs. Smells like a system QB and with your observation above... wouldn’t touch him- period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Gross. Beane better keep a close eye on what Miami does to trade up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Beane better keep a close eye on what Miami does to trade up. This is beginning to feel like a drawn-out, high-stakes game of musical chairs. Only some teams already own chairs. And we have to compete to buy the chairs from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Go get Rosen. The Jets pay a premium for a QB who can't hit the side of a barn, Baker is partying on South Beach and missing team meetings, the Pats magic dries up when Brady retires and we claim our rightful spot on top of the division for the next 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 5:49 PM, BillsPride12 said: Those guys are Chefs not Bakers I thought the Chefs were from Kansas City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Go get Rosen. The Jets pay a premium for a QB who can't hit the side of a barn, Baker is partying on South Beach and missing team meetings, the Pats magic dries up when Brady retires and we claim our rightful spot on top of the division for the next 15 years. I'm all aboard that train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: This is beginning to feel like a drawn-out, high-stakes game of musical chairs. Only some teams already own chairs. And we have to compete to buy the chairs from them. That's the exact analogy I've used in my mind for the whole process. We don't exactly know how many chairs are worth sitting in, but we know 2 are gone at 1 and 3 already and the Giants are still sitting in theirs despite the music playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 4:52 PM, Doc Brown said: This would be the best case scenario as I see it right now. 1.) Browns - Darnold 2.) Giants - Barkley 3.) Jets - Allen 4.) We trade #12, #22, a 2nd, a 3rd, and next years 1st to trade up for Rosen or Mayfield (I think both will be franchise QB's although I prefer the most pro ready in Rosen) I hope your right as far as the Jets taking Allen because i don't think the guy is all that but i for sure hope they aren't that foolish to give up 3 first round picks !! Mc Bean & company i pray are smarter than that !! Even though i think Mayfield has the best tools of this yrs draft there has been a lot of so called "Experts" that have said he is a systems QB & you would have to change the offense to what fit s him & not have him learn a system other than what fits him !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'm fine with Mayfield, Darnold, or Rosen. I'd be concerned if we went with Allen, but I trust Beane and McDermott, so if they think Allen is worth it, I could get behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 3/19/2018 at 6:26 AM, YoloinOhio said: This is spot on. They also switched to more man coverage, which he struggled with. So much so that Lincoln Riley took the ball out of his hands at crunch time. The Buckeyes had him stymied until the offense going 3 and out over and over again finally added up and he laid an egg against them in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I could care less about his height but this observation matters. In one full game clip I watched several days ago, I noticed all his passes from the pocket were out wide, all his passes to the middle were on roll outs. Smells like a system QB and with your observation above... wouldn’t touch him- period. That’s some interesting info, I didn’t notice that. Gonna have to get back to the tape, nice observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If everything goes as we hope, Rosen to Buffalo, Allen to Jets, and Mayfield to Miami. Would make for an interesting division. Brady and the rookies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 . Buffalo worked out Mayfield on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabills585 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I have done a lot of research on these top 4 qb’s in this draft and have come to a strong conclusion that Baker will be the best for years to come. He can make every single throw on the field, has a huge arm, has a huge football IQ, and has a killer instinct that I don’t think any of the other guys even comes close to having. Think about the best qbs in this league (Brady, Rodgers, Breese...)... they all are the most competitive guys on the field every Sunday. Mark my words, this guy will be good for a very long time and I am praying that he’s doing it in Buffalo. I think we we can get him at 4 if we trade both 1st round picks to Cleveland and maybe one second and next years second. They absolutely have to get their guy this year and I think Baker is the guy. What do you guys think?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 first post, interesting. Baker is that you? big fan of your crotch grab. if you do that to Tom Brady they will build a statue of you in front of New Era Field 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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