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he's too short to play in the NFL.   he's just too short.   after watching Taylor struggle with batted balls all year and trying to find openings to throw the ball through, my QB needs to be tall and stand tall and throw tall... you can't coach size.   B M doesn't have it for today's NFL.  

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Just now, 8-8 Forever? said:

he's too short to play in the NFL.   he's just too short.   after watching Taylor struggle with batted balls all year and trying to find openings to throw the ball through, my QB needs to be tall and stand tall and throw tall... you can't coach size.   B M doesn't have it for today's NFL.  

I wonder how many times Drew Brees and Russell Wilson heard that growing up.

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I don’t think the PI is over the top. He has had trouble with the law in the past and if he fails it could lead to a lot of people losing their jobs. Affects players, coaches & their families. I think the same thing happened with Jameis if I recall. 

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think the PI is over the top. He has had trouble with the law in the past and if he fails it could lead to a lot of people losing their jobs. Affects players, coaches & their families. I think the same thing happened with Jameis if I recall. 

 

 

...understand your assessment.....but I just wonder if the media comparatives to Manziel triggered it....

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46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think the PI is over the top. He has had trouble with the law in the past and if he fails it could lead to a lot of people losing their jobs. Affects players, coaches & their families. I think the same thing happened with Jameis if I recall. 

 

The kid went out and got drunk,he was walking not driving no big deal to me.

 

I like the fight in him and the chip on his shoulder,twice a walk on and twice the coach picks him over his own guy.

 

He has a swagger and I like that too.

 

I really hope he is the guy Beane is after because I think Rosen is overrated.

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4 minutes ago, Sweats said:

All we need is a couple of guys named Butcher and Candlesstick Maker and we’re all set.

 

Thats our new ILBs  nickname..... Butcher and didn't Crabtree play at Candlestick? just connecting the dots ;)

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2 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

The height argument against Mayfield is just a lazy assessment. The guy produces, is uncanningly accurate, and has a fiery will to win. I'd take that guy in a heartbeat. And Baker Mayfield is a great football name.

 

I wouldn’t call it “lazy”. There’s two quarterbacks who have been successful that are at his height. Brees and Wilson. And Wilson’s athletic ability sets him apart from almost every other quarterback in the league right now. Almost every guy that height has issues becoming successful in the NFL. 

 

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1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...saw an article where some NFL club hired a private investigator to trail the kid....must be the Manziel Paranoia....a bit over the top?...

 

 

I bet there were five other P.I.s hired by teams not stupid enough to hire one and then talk about it.

 

Pretty common practice from what I've read.

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My biggest fear with Mayfield is he could just be a perfect fit for the air raid offense. Look up Graham Harrell. This offense can produce unreal #s.

 

What made Wilson special was he went from a spread option offense at NC State to a pro offense at Wisconsin flawlessly.

   
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4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

I bet there were five other P.I.s hired by teams not stupid enough to hire one and then talk about it.

 

Pretty common practice from what I've read.

 

...probably correct....and I'm sure those doing the hiring are "lily white" themselves (COUGH).......

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I would be OK with having "The Baker" cook up some magic in Buffalo.  I like the fact that he is ultra confident, so much so that he walked on at Oklahoma rather than stick with a scholarship somewhere else.  Height can be an issue, but I think most Bill's fans remember Doug Flutie and his success in Buffalo until folks thought he was too short and when to the prototypical Rob Johnson.  That didn't work out so well.

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7 minutes ago, VirginiaMike said:

I would be OK with having "The Baker" cook up some magic in Buffalo.  I like the fact that he is ultra confident, so much so that he walked on at Oklahoma rather than stick with a scholarship somewhere else.  Height can be an issue, but I think most Bill's fans remember Doug Flutie and his success in Buffalo until folks thought he was too short and when to the prototypical Rob Johnson.  That didn't work out so well.

Flutie was too short

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4 hours ago, 8-8 Forever? said:

he's too short to play in the NFL.   he's just too short.   after watching Taylor struggle with batted balls all year and trying to find openings to throw the ball through, my QB needs to be tall and stand tall and throw tall... you can't coach size.   B M doesn't have it for today's NFL.  

 

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4 hours ago, 8-8 Forever? said:

he's too short to play in the NFL.   he's just too short.   after watching Taylor struggle with batted balls all year and trying to find openings to throw the ball through, my QB needs to be tall and stand tall and throw tall... you can't coach size.   B M doesn't have it for today's NFL.  

Rosen had more batted balls than Mayfield last year. 

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4 hours ago, 8-8 Forever? said:

he's too short to play in the NFL.   he's just too short.   after watching Taylor struggle with batted balls all year and trying to find openings to throw the ball through, my QB needs to be tall and stand tall and throw tall... you can't coach size.   B M doesn't have it for today's NFL.  

 

Hes already proved he can throw through windows, Tyrod never done that during his college years.... Brees, Wilson and Rogers proved they could do this in college also, all of the slid in the draft.... I think we will be able to get Mayfield at 12 come the end of April, and it would be a mistake to pass him up. 

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6 hours ago, Rob's House said:

If we trade into the top 5 he's probably available, but do we want him? He's got a great arm, good accuracy, good mobility, picks up the blitz well, and by all accounts is a grest leader, but Baker is a stupid first name. I say pass.

 

What say you?

  Baker was probably a surname somewhere in his family's ancestory.  I've seen that done a lot.  As far as height goes does any athletic shoe maker offer platforms?

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53 minutes ago, Dkollidas said:

 

I wouldn’t call it “lazy”. There’s two quarterbacks who have been successful that are at his height. Brees and Wilson. And Wilson’s athletic ability sets him apart from almost every other quarterback in the league right now. Almost every guy that height has issues becoming successful in the NFL. 

 

The concern over his height is warranted as there have been few successful NFL QBs af this height (as you stated), but I think that his apparent drive and attitude will allow him to overcome the odds.  All of these QBs have some questions- I’d be very happy to have the Bills give him his chance.

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on height and QB; I think it's relevant that Mayfield is just about a half inch shorter than a 6-1" QB, and while he isn't Russell Wilson fast, he's mobile. I wouldn't hold height against him. 

anyways, the research here shows it's a pretty individual thing. 

http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2017/02/stats_show_shorter_nfl_quarter.html

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according to wikipedia, tyrod taylor is 6' 3/4". Tyrod had problems finding open receivers, but that seemed to be due more to the fact that he could not throw an intermediate pass through a window in the middle of the field. ever. ok maybe not ever but I think i could count on one hand the number of times he did that last year

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41 minutes ago, BananaB said:

 

Hes already proved he can throw through windows, Tyrod never done that during his college years.... Brees, Wilson and Rogers proved they could do this in college also, all of the slid in the draft.... I think we will be able to get Mayfield at 12 come the end of April, and it would be a mistake to pass him up. 

 

If he falls to 12 and we pass, I'm going to pee on my Vizio.

 

Then I'll clean it up before my wife comes home.

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Did anybody else hear the shot Hasselbeck took at Baker in the Rosen recap? Rosen's receiver ran the wrong route and had a incompletion. Rosen turned and said it was his fault. Baker had the same thing happen to him and he yelled at the receiver. He was basically questioning Baker leadership qualities.

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5 hours ago, 8-8 Forever? said:

he's too short to play in the NFL.   he's just too short.   after watching Taylor struggle with batted balls all year and trying to find openings to throw the ball through, my QB needs to be tall and stand tall and throw tall... you can't coach size.   B M doesn't have it for today's NFL.  

 

Dumba$$.

 

 

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