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AJ McCarron wins grievance vs Bengals, is UFA


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47 minutes ago, qwksilver said:

He adds to the list of potential starting qb's available though FA & draft. Hopefully, our FO get's it right. 

 

Was Daboll in Alabama when he was there? Obv I did NOT google it.

 

McCarron was long gone from the Alabama program by the time Daboll arrived there. 

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On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 4:38 PM, aristocrat said:

Wow the bengals played that wrong and lost him for nothing. 

They could still tag him. Right?

 

Transition tag maybe?

On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 4:53 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

I was just answering your question. I have no opinion on AJ McCarron.

That has to be the ugliest chest tat since Italians invented chest hair.

 

Could anyone be that religious to think that was needed??

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13 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I don't think so. Seeing the contract Glennon got last year will make teams a bit wary. Plus the glut of QB talent expected to be available. He will get paid, but I think it will be a solid deal and not crazy 

 

 

That'd be my guess too.

 

 

1 hour ago, Jasovon said:

Did people learn nothing from Mike Glennon?

 

 

I think they learned that sometimes paying a QB can be a fine draft smokescreen.

 

And that if you're gonna pay a guy to be a bridge / backup you might have to pay a bit more than you'd like, but you ought to handle it like the Bears did so that you only have $4.5 mill in dead money if you cut him before the second year. 

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10 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

The Falcons didn't think Brett Favre was a challenger for Chris Miller.

The Chargers didn't think Drew Brees was a challenger for Phillip Rivers.

 

 

The Falcons thought Favre was a drunk and an idiot, which he was that year. Cleaned up his act pretty well, but he was a problem for the Falcs.

 

And the Chargers knew Brees had serious injury issues and a good chance of never being healthy again. If he'd been healthy things might have been very very different there.

 

But yeah, there are some better examples, like the Packers letting Kurt Warner go (no, he wouldn't have beaten out Favre, but might have been kept and traded for serious value if he'd developed) or the Bucs letting Steve Young go in that trade. Garoppolo over the aging Brady may well turn out to be a classic example. I hope so.

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14 minutes ago, vincec said:

Let me put it like this: how many think Andy Dalton is a franchise QB? Well, this guy was his backup and couldn’t move ahead of him on the depth chart. It’s not like he was sitting behind Tom Brady.

 

A 5th rd draft pick would need to prove himself before a big contract . One year mainly incentives or just say no. He might be a viable backup if not a starter.

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13 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Based on his VERY limited NFL resume, anything more than a minimum contract is a big gamble.  

 

I am NOT saying that he might not be good.  However, if the Bengals don’t think he is a challenger for the much higher paid Andy Dalton, I would not hold much hope that he is an answer as a good starting QB.

Wow, does NOT look like an elite trained athlete.

Tom Brady looks identical to him minus the tattoo.

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Ranking AJ McCarron landing spots: Browns get a second chance at quarterback

6. Buffalo Bills 

The Bills could end up parting ways with Tyrod Taylor, who seems like a strong bet to be released this offseason. Assuming that happens, Buffalo will need to fill the void, unless it wants to roll with just Nathan Peterman (they should not do that).

McCarron might make a lot of sense as a guy who has experience. And the coaching staff could be a fit, with recently hired offensive coordinator Brian Daboll having come from Alabama. That's not to say he and McCarron have some deep-seated connection, but it's very possible McCarron could communicate with Daboll through Nick Saban about whether the two would work well together, and vice versa.

The Bills aren't loaded with weapons, but have a nice offensive line and LeSean McCoy in the backfield. Sean McDermott is capable of getting the defense to play above its head, and this team went to the playoffs just last year.

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11 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

As long as it's a contract that you can easily get out of, I don't really see why you wouldn't pursue him. I'm not a big fan of his, but if you give him a contract like Mike Glennon got, that's a great move IMO.

 

Bills should make him a reasonable offer.

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16 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Good for him! It'll be interesting to see what the market is for a QB who's thrown 14 passes in 2 years, and less than 150 passes in his career.

 

So when I did my QB draft analysis using numeric criteria of completion %, TD/INT, and YPA, as I took it back to the later rounds two names showed up which raised my eyebrows.

 

One was Cody Kessler with the Browns.

The other was AJ McCarron

 

I'm not sure that means we'd like him - he was short on one criterion fans here think a lot of, and that's passing yards (with an all-star receiving cast, too)

 

Does anyone have any good film clips of how he plays?

 

6 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

Bills should make him a reasonable offer.

 

Given the QB market, he's likely to want Glennon or Osweiler bucks.

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1 hour ago, NewEraBills said:

Signing him to a big contract is very risky.  There's no body of work to look at.  I'd be overly cautious.

 

Agreed. The one team it isn't risky for is Cleveland, because Hue Jackson knows what he is getting and Ken Zampese is there as well as QB coach. For anyone else, it is a big leap of faith. 

 

Although he would have won a playoff game vs the Steelers if it weren't for Vontaze Burfict going nuts and Jeremy Hill's fumble.  

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13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Given the QB market, he's likely to want Glennon or Osweiler bucks.

 

I'm thinking he isn't getting a good contract offer because he is unproven yet and thought of as a game manager rather than a potential rising star.

 

But who knows in this QB needy NFL.

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13 minutes ago, PolishDave said:

 

I'm thinking he isn't getting a good contract offer because he is unproven yet and thought of as a game manager rather than a potential rising star.

 

But who knows in this QB needy NFL.

 

Good assessment.  Teams should take heed from what Houston did with Osweiler by offering him money far in excess of his actual worth. 

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5 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Why would McCarron go to Cleveland?  Unless he's the League MVP next year or happy being a backup, he'll be playing for a new team in a year.  Can see the win-now teams like Denver and maybe Jax going after him if they miss out on Cousins or don't want to pay his price tag.  

 

Players like familiarity, and he played for Hue Jackson for 2 seasons in Cincinnati.

 

Cleveland also has a ridiculous amount of cap room, and can afford to give him a front-loaded deal that doesn't hurt them down the road if they cut ties with him.

 

Plus, he'd have a great opportunity to start.

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2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Players like familiarity, and he played for Hue Jackson for 2 seasons in Cincinnati.

 

Cleveland also has a ridiculous amount of cap room, and can afford to give him a front-loaded deal that doesn't hurt them down the road if they cut ties with him.

 

Plus, he'd have a great opportunity to start.

 

Fair enough but is Jackson the only coach he can play for?  Unless McCarron plays like Brady, Jackson will have a hard time not playing the #1 overall pick next year and will absolutely have to play him in 2019.  

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

 

Fair enough but is Jackson the only coach he can play for?  Unless McCarron plays like Brady, Jackson will have a hard time not playing the #1 overall pick next year and will absolutely have to play him in 2019.  

 

Not sure--if I were McCarron, I'm guessing that I'm not going to get the contract this offseason based upon my NFL body of work, so what I'm looking to do is put myself in the best situation to produce.

 

If I can play for a coach where I know the offense, and put myself in a position where I can potentially be on the UFA market again next offseason, that's pretty much ideal.

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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Players like familiarity, and he played for Hue Jackson for 2 seasons in Cincinnati.

 

Cleveland also has a ridiculous amount of cap room, and can afford to give him a front-loaded deal that doesn't hurt them down the road if they cut ties with him.

 

Plus, he'd have a great opportunity to start.

 

Additionally, adding McCarron lets them do something like draft Barkley 1 and Chubb or Nelson at 4. Now you are getting two elite blue chip prospects. They have a really good offensive line as well. They also have Kizer to develop in the background who they seem to like. 

 

Now that team doesn't look so bad. Sign a receiver like Sammy Watkins or Jarvis Landry and some defensive players in free agency and they are in business. 

 

Drafting a young quarterback pretty much guarantees Hue Jackson loses his job in two years. I think he will be banging the table for McCarron and Dorsey will go for it because it allows them to get two top 5 position players in this draft. 

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17 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

Players like familiarity, and he played for Hue Jackson for 2 seasons in Cincinnati.

 

Cleveland also has a ridiculous amount of cap room, and can afford to give him a front-loaded deal that doesn't hurt them down the road if they cut ties with him.

 

Plus, he'd have a great opportunity to start.

Conversely, if his offer is low (or non-existent) from Cleveland it says a lot to me. Have to figure Hue has the most familiarity with him of anyone in the league outside of maybe some of Cincy's current staff.

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1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Conversely, if his offer is low (or non-existent) from Cleveland it says a lot to me. Have to figure Hue has the most familiarity with him of anyone in the league outside of maybe some of Cincy's current staff.

 

That's something to consider as well; IMO, that could easily be passed off by McCarron's camp by pointing to the fact that the Browns have Kizer and two top-5 picks, so they have no need to be aggressive with a QB in FA.

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