dezertbill Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 @mikerodak 31 other teams passed on a player with a minimum-salary contract. Like I said. There has to be something up with this situation. Drug suspension or conduct issue or something. Karlos Williams part II @sigmundbloom McDermott indicated that Williams lost out in BUF bc of special teams, that may keep him on street until RB injuries strike That sounds like a cop out. Like Shady plays special teams? If a guy is a solid talent ST won't be a deal breaker in making a team. There has to be something more to it and McD is using it to keep the reason in house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I get the emphasis on special teams - I mean, a lot of games are won or lost through good/bad ST play - but maybe this is getting a bit ridiculous, given that it's also a partial justification for signing the hideous Joe Webb?looks like other teams also expect their depth players to be able to play ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 the tmz vid probably freaked people out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Former Buffalo Bills RB Jonathan Williams passes through waivers unclaimed ✔@mikerodak 31 other teams passed on a player with a minimum-salary contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Like I said. There has to be something up with this situation. Drug suspension or conduct issue or something. Karlos Williams part II That sounds like a cop out. Like Shady plays special teams? If a guy is a solid talent ST won't be a deal breaker in making a team. There has to be something more to it and McD is using it to keep the reason in house. i don't get the comparison. Starters aren't expected to play ST. Depth players are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 But we were told EXPLICITLY here on TSW that there was no dropoff between he and Mike Gillislee after MG lead the NFL in ypc and short yardage conversions....... No worries. Banyard will replace MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Like I said. There has to be something up with this situation. Drug suspension or conduct issue or something. Karlos Williams part II That sounds like a cop out. Like Shady plays special teams? If a guy is a solid talent ST won't be a deal breaker in making a team. There has to be something more to it and McD is using it to keep the reason in house. Not the same with Shady being a starter who'll get the majority of carries. Williams will land on his feet with a job at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 @sigmundbloom McDermott indicated that Williams lost out in BUF bc of special teams, that may keep him on street until RB injuries strike Fortunately, our star RB is never hurt. Joe Bastage and Productive Taiwan......Thunder and Lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Damn even the rest of the league realizes how badly Whaley's picks sucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 i don't get the comparison. Starters aren't expected to play ST. Depth players are. I'm not sure "primary backup RB" is in the same situation as, say, 3rd TE .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Damn even the rest of the league realizes how badly Whaley's picks sucked! Shhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Fortunately, our star RB is never hurt. Joe Bastage and Productive Taiwan......Thunder and Lightning. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Well there's got to be more to this than we know. He had a great preseason and picked up the blitz a lot better than Banyard. Something's up. Well at least Miller is starting and not Vlad-the-Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Good job, Jauron/Levy II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I get the emphasis on special teams - I mean, a lot of games are won or lost through good/bad ST play - but maybe this is getting a bit ridiculous, given that it's also a partial justification for signing the hideous Joe Webb? ST well until Danny Crossman gets McBeaned I have little confidence in the unit. How is that loser still coaching the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Damn even the rest of the league realizes how badly Whaley's picks sucked! To be fair, most of his picks from 14-16 are still in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Although McD was understandably very guarded in what he said today, I liked that he said that JW "did everything we asked him to." Edited September 4, 2017 by RockpileSurvivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 There has to be something more to it and McD is using it to keep the reason in house. JONATHAN. WILLIAMS. IS. NOT. NEARLY. AS. GOOD. OR. VALUABLE. AS. YOU. THINK. HE. IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I wonder if every other team message board has a 30 page meltdown because their GMs passed on Jon Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 It's easy to fathom- much like WR there are a about 1,000 guys that are pretty similar once you get past the top half of the crop. Come this crossroad in preseason many teams go with the guy they know and the guy that knows their system and fit the scheme. The body types and skill sets aren't quite as rare as some positions though That said, you can still let the wrong one go when choosing between two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'm sure it's been posted on the neverending "J WILL CUT" thread, but he always struck me as a bit slow, and the numbers reflect that. 4.33 40 time for Taiwan pre-draft (yup, that was a while ago), 4.46 for Banyard (same), 4. 59 for JW. So again, I get the special teams thing, and particularly the need for speed on ST. But I also get that the need for fast RBs backing up Shady is amplified when 2 positions are already taken up by the plodding DiMarco and Tolbert. That's still the thing that bothers me - signing both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Pick him up! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Good job, Jauron/Levy II. Don't forget Bobby April. Love me some STms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I'm sure it's been posted on the neverending "J WILL CUT" thread, but he always struck me as a bit slow, and the numbers reflect that. 4.33 40 time for Taiwan pre-draft (yup, that was a while ago), 4.46 for Banyard (same), 4. 59 for JW. So again, I get the special teams thing, and particularly the need for speed on ST. But I also get that the need for fast RBs backing up Shady is amplified when 2 positions are already taken up by the plodding DiMarco and Tolbert. That's still the thing that bothers me - signing both of them.Dimarco is a pure FB. Tolbert is a bulldozer. Taiwan jones is the fast guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Cut Yates, bring up Reilly and stuff him on the PS. Is he even eligible still? How does that make a difference? Might as well leave hims an FA and sign if needed later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Dimarco is a pure FB. Tolbert is a bulldozer. Taiwan jones is the fast guy. I get that, and I think this all makes great sense if Shady stays healthy. But ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Cut Yates, bring up Reilly and stuff him on the PS. Is he even eligible still?this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Fortunately, our star RB is never hurt. Wasn't last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Wont find ou until tomorrow. I fully see him being claimed though Jets and Cle both. Heck he might just start week 1 against us Edited September 4, 2017 by Wayne Arnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Wasn't last year. Woooohhh there. I know you are a Gillislee fan but most people think Shady was the star running back. MG did fil in nicely for him when Shady was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 JONATHAN. WILLIAMS. IS. NOT. NEARLY. AS. GOOD. OR. VALUABLE. AS. YOU. THINK. HE. IS. yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 It is beginning to look like our coach and GM just might understand the value of players a wee bit more that those on a message board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Makes most of the people on this forum look like a bunch of !@#$ing idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Weird. Must be a suspension coming. That's what i am hearing from a couple different people...just random folks, no inside sources or inside knowledge You keep saying that word...I do no think it means what you think it means... Never go against McBeane when death is on the line..trust the process Edited September 4, 2017 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 It is beginning to look like our coach and GM just might understand the value of players a wee bit more that those on a message boardPreposterous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Makes most of the people on this forum look like a bunch of !@#$ing idiots. Shhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Woooohhh there. I know you are a Gillislee fan but most people think Shady was the star running back. MG did fil in nicely for him when Shady was injured. Anyone with a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Although McD was understandably very guarded in what he said today, I liked that he said that JW "did everything we asked him to." This did make me wonder though - what DID they ask him to do? I ask b/c if he didn't contribute on special teams, did they ever ask him to play special teams?? If not, whose fault is it he didn't? Did he play ST, and he was just bad at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I think it just came down to a close call between him and Banyard. No reason for big conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Anyone with a clue. And anyone with a clue knows Shady missed the biggest home game of the year.....the NE game........and was too hurt to play the week before in Miami and had to be pulled after a woeful performance due to hamstring pain that knocked him out of the game the week before. He basically missed two of the of the 3 or 4 most important games on the entire schedule. Losing both of those killed their tie breakers and flipped their position with Miami. But MG played well in both.......just too bad the superstar wasn't available. He's a year older so it's probably safe to roll with a less secure net now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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