3rdand12 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I get questioning the moves. But the vitriol is a bit over the top, IMO. no argument there ib. Emotions running high today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 What!? I am so confused by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Wow- eatin crow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Ok this one is a head scratcher. Everything else I am fine with but this dude was playing well. Maybe they were worried about ball security but he didn't fumble this year at all. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Jon Williams and Joe Banyard are clones as far as body type and running style is concerned. I would have kept Williams as he is younger, but I understand not keeping both. Taiwan Jones is a completely different RB. He's not had much NFL production as a RB, but maybe the Bills see something in him they can use as a RB, and he is a useful special teamer Heck let's blow whole thing up going to be rough year anyways. Trade McCoy, Kyle Williams before age hits them. They don't need years of suck and they need a Superbowl. Heck others as well. Edited September 3, 2017 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Remember when people got mad because it was unclear what the front office was doing last year? Why is that same reaction not applying this year? Their actions are not lining up with their words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 This seems like the first FO/regime that doesn't value the running back position as much as the previous ones. And that makes me extremely happy. Which is why they traded their one true wide-out / deep threat / talent at receiver. Maybe the first FO/regime that doesn't value offense as much as the previous ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Busy day, I'm behind. I have done my best to give these guys the benefit of the doubt but I'm no longer at that stage. I picked apart every move Whaley made and his lack of vision. That doesn't mean that every single player he drafted sucked. These two bozos look to have the same tunnel vision sickness as many of the previous clowns who graced OBD. Holy !@#$ing ****, WE BAD. Edited September 3, 2017 by Commonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Jon Williams and Joe Banyard are clones as far as body type and running style is concerned. I would have kept Williams as he is younger, but I understand not keeping both. Taiwan Jones is a completely different RB. He's not had much NFL production as a RB, but maybe the Bills see something in him they can use as a RB, and he is a useful special teamer J. Williams looked to me like the more instinctive runner, more patient and a good fit to Dennison's system. I like Baynard, he hits the hole hard but he's a north south type of runner, to me Jones was very ordinary, just another special team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Now I'm just not understanding this new regime. Starting to think someone has a bad case of Chip Kellyitis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Are you guys thinking what I'm thinking? Karlos Williams. Git r done, billy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Can we dispense with the hyperbole: Lesean McCoy - Top 3 running back, likely future HoFer Cordy Glenn - Above average LT Richie Incognito - Perennial pro bowl guard Eric Wood - Severely underrated here Tyrod Taylor - Say what you want about him, but analytic sites call him vastly underrated, 47 tds to 15 ints (how many better have we had since Kelly, really) Marcell Dareus - Sure he's got off-field issues, but when active he's one of the best DTs in the league Kyle Williams - Ok, he's 34, but has the perennial pro bowler slowed down? Jerry Hughes - Has had off years, but inarguably talented Shaq Lawson - Considered by many to go as high as 11th last year in draft Lorenzo Alexander - A ton of tackles, and third in the league in sacks Tre'Davious White - Extremely promising rookie Zay Jones - All-time NCAA Div I season and career leader in receptions I'd also argue that Preston Brown is looking as he did in his rookie season, John Miller was PFF's most improved, Dion Dawkins had a hell of a spring, and Jordan Matthews has 200 more yards than Sammy in the same amount of time (is he the same potential talent, not by a longshot, but on a run-first team that led the league in rushing by 15 ypg, he's not nothing), and Charles Clay, while underwhelming so far, is not untalented. Could this team have a disastrous year? Sure, but I don't really get this sudden rush to declare them one of the worst in a sea of truly awful teams this year. On paper, this looks like a team that should hover around the same .500 they do every year, and who could have an influx of talent in the upcoming years. Sometimes these teams catch lightning in a bottle, or something clicks. I mostly love what McDermott's been doing (save Ducasse-Miller battle) and am going into the season with an open mind. However, to call this a low talent team is simply absurd. You appear to be new around here so you might not have noticed there is a certain element that lacks a sense of proportion, is ignorant of the concept of gradation and able to only see everything in black or white. To them, your sensible post will be an example of "snowflake" thinking, and a stain on raging "real man" cogitating. To them, letting Gillislee go and trading Sammy doesn't just mean the Bills might be a bit weaker at backup RB or receiver, it means there is NO talent left. See how that works? Welcome to the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 They don't wanna win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Any team claim JWill yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Are you guys thinking what I'm thinking? Karlos Williams. Git r done, billy!! i see your Karlos and raise you a FRED JACKSON. He fits the age profile and cooks up a mean steak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Are you guys thinking what I'm thinking? Karlos Williams. Git r done, billy!! I wonder if he can fit through the tunnel to get to the field at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 i see your Karlos and raise you a FRED JACKSON. He fits the age profile and cooks up a mean steak. Haha. I would suggest even adding CJ Spiller but he is at NASA today interviewing for an astronaut position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Playing to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The Jets have officially been put on notice: you're not going to waltz right into that #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 We have two FBs. Not really. Tolbert is more of a runner than a blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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