Wayne Arnold Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 According to Chris Brown on the John Murphy Show yesterday, Bills GM Doug Whaley has exceeded expectations "in spades" with regard to personnel. He especially cited the Justin Hunter pickup last season as strong evidence of this. Lorenzo Alexander and Zach Brown also mentioned. What say you, Bills fan? Do we need to give more credit to Whaley for what he's accomplished during his career with the Bills? Is this roster stacked with talent and we just haven't received good enough coaching to get the appropriate production? Does the sad fact that this franchise only has two players on the current roster drafted by the Bills between 2010 and 2013 not apply to Whaley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 not another thread like this:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 So he punches Rihanna but defends Whaley? Should be the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Oh okay, a guy that works for the Bills tells us this. Yeah sure let's believe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hes good at getting scrubs and turning them into servicable players. Thats about it. His drafts and vision towards the future is awful in my opinion. Seems like he's always thinking, "what can I do to get better now" instead of having a plan in place years down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley has always been good at pro personnel evaluation. His drafting and QB evaluations are a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 According to Chris Brown on the John Murphy Show yesterday, Bills GM Doug Whaley has exceeded expectations "in spades" with regard to personnel. He especially cited the Justin Hunter pickup last season as strong evidence of this. Lorenzo Alexander and Zach Brown also mentioned. What say you, Bills fan? Do we need to give more credit to Whaley for what he's accomplished during his career with the Bills? Is this roster stacked with talent and we just haven't received good enough coaching to get the appropriate production? Does the sad fact that this franchise only has two players on the current roster drafted by the Bills between 2010 and 2013 not apply to Whaley? No. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 So he punches Rihanna but defends Whaley? Should be the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Owning the FB market ... hmmm maybe I should rethink my position on Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 According to Chris Brown on the John Murphy Show yesterday, Bills GM Doug Whaley has exceeded expectations "in spades" with regard to personnel. He especially cited the Justin Hunter pickup last season as strong evidence of this. Lorenzo Alexander and Zach Brown also mentioned. What say you, Bills fan? Do we need to give more credit to Whaley for what he's accomplished during his career with the Bills? Is this roster stacked with talent and we just haven't received good enough coaching to get the appropriate production? Does the sad fact that this franchise only has two players on the current roster drafted by the Bills between 2010 and 2013 not apply to Whaley? Fair or not he is not going to get a lot of credit till the team actually starts winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 This is like when Russian State run media says Putin doesn't get enough credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Dang. Thought we'd be able to avoid the pipin' hot Brown spew on this here board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 For what? All the success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 It's the drought. And the wins. We are a devoted fan base and demand more, what's wrong with that? We hang the blame on coaching and the GM equally from what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I actually overall think Whaley has made the team better, but his praise should be in direct correlation with the team's W/L record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'm amazed people listen to the john Murphy show. I can't anymore. They are on the Bills payroll and defend them no matter what. I like the Howard Simon Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 CB is such a tool. Murph is a total fan that totes the company line, but CB is such a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I still believe that Billy the Buffalo is really Chris Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I don't think that DW is terrible by any stretch (I have seen bad Bills GMs probably about a half dozen times in my lifetime), but I think that his gambling tendencies, in particular for the spots for which he has made these gambles, is maddening. Tim Graham (IIRC, it was him) wrote an article about the Bills not retaining their picks after their initial contracts had expired, and how the team has less picks on its current roster than on the contenders. I agree with the premise, but at the same time I think that having constant organizational churn at the HC position is also a factor. As always, I love the Bills and remain optimistic, but at some point I want to see the same core of players in a Bills uni over the course of as many seasons as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Murphy and Brown are the two ultimate Bills' shills. Whaley and his failure to address QB, and his lousy draft history.? LOL Not to mention his terrible contract signings (i.e., Dareus), that always put Team Mediocrity up against the salary cap. Edited March 10, 2017 by par73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley is fantastic. I don't know what all you people are whining about. For two years in a row, the Patriots signed away one of our players. That should tell you something. Failure to address QB? Half the damn teams in the NFL have a QB problem. Finding a franchise QB isn't easy, and we now have Tyrod. Yeah, EJ didn't pan out. But we got an extra draft pick for moving back. Buddy should have drafted Russell Wilson, but didn't. That's been the biggest mistake in recent years. The talent level on this team is so much better than it has been. Our FA signings have been pretty damn good. And out drafting has gotten better. Not perfect, but we have a lot of talent. Now we just need to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You are what your record says you are. Whaley is an 8-8 GM Not good enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Murphy and Brown are the two ultimate Bills' shills. Whaley and his failure to address QB, and his lousy draft history.? LOL Not to mention his terrible contract signings (i.e., Dareus), that always put Team Mediocrity up against the salary cap.he did address QB. I've not seen a "lousy" draft yet. Not stellar,but lousy? Dareus contract would be just fine,if he'd not be lazy n smoking pot. TT contract while seemingly bad,was reworked to suite the team. That's not horrible. And he does seem to land quality guys in FA. I'd agree,he's better than given credit for. Still room for improvement tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley is fantastic. I don't know what all you people are whining about. For two years in a row, the Patriots signed away one of our players. That should tell you something. Failure to address QB? Half the damn teams in the NFL have a QB problem. Finding a franchise QB isn't easy, and we now have Tyrod. Yeah, EJ didn't pan out. But we got an extra draft pick for moving back. Buddy should have drafted Russell Wilson, but didn't. That's been the biggest mistake in recent years. The talent level on this team is so much better than it has been. Our FA signings have been pretty damn good. And out drafting has gotten better. Not perfect, but we have a lot of talent. Now we just need to win. I get the beef about Wilson, but of all the QBs the Bills could have drafted over the years, would you have trusted guys like Jauron or Gailey or Marrone or Rex to have hired someone to coach them up? That is the sticking point with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley is fantastic. I don't know what all you people are whining about. For two years in a row, the Patriots signed away one of our players. That should tell you something. Failure to address QB? Half the damn teams in the NFL have a QB problem. Finding a franchise QB isn't easy, and we now have Tyrod. Yeah, EJ didn't pan out. But we got an extra draft pick for moving back. Buddy should have drafted Russell Wilson, but didn't. That's been the biggest mistake in recent years. The talent level on this team is so much better than it has been. Our FA signings have been pretty damn good. And out drafting has gotten better. Not perfect, but we have a lot of talent. Now we just need to win. Whaley didnt draft Gilmore or Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I actually overall think Whaley has made the team better, but his praise should be in direct correlation with the team's W/L record. This is where I'm at as well. Praise (and condemnation) has got to be tied to wins and losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley is fantastic. I don't know what all you people are whining about. For two years in a row, the Patriots signed away one of our players. That should tell you something. Failure to address QB? Half the damn teams in the NFL have a QB problem. Finding a franchise QB isn't easy, and we now have Tyrod. Yeah, EJ didn't pan out. But we got an extra draft pick for moving back. Buddy should have drafted Russell Wilson, but didn't. That's been the biggest mistake in recent years. The talent level on this team is so much better than it has been. Our FA signings have been pretty damn good. And out drafting has gotten better. Not perfect, but we have a lot of talent. Now we just need to win. We have 0 2013 drafted players on our roster. We're gonna have maybe 1 or 2 from 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'll give Whaley credit for assembling the best 6 and 10 team of all time. Bills 2017, get ready we're going. Without the pool tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Why does Chris Brown still have a job?He's an obvious tool of the organization and his fanboy spin of literally every article is completely transparent.There's no objectivity. He never breaks stories. His content isn't interesting.I'll answer my own question. He still has a job because the Bills organization thinks we're dumb enough to believe the spin ...and they're so out of touch that they don't realize we write off every one of his articles and opinions. Edited March 10, 2017 by Rigotz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think Whaley has been one of the better Bills GMs. He's made many good moves. But people needs scapegoats. The Bills would have made the playoffs last year if the D wasn't mishandled by Rex and Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Whaley is fantastic. I don't know what all you people are whining about. For two years in a row, the Patriots signed away one of our players. That should tell you something. Failure to address QB? Half the damn teams in the NFL have a QB problem. Finding a franchise QB isn't easy, and we now have Tyrod. Yeah, EJ didn't pan out. But we got an extra draft pick for moving back. Buddy should have drafted Russell Wilson, but didn't. That's been the biggest mistake in recent years. The talent level on this team is so much better than it has been. Our FA signings have been pretty damn good. And out drafting has gotten better. Not perfect, but we have a lot of talent. Now we just need to win. DW has built a top heavy roster with major holes at WR, CB, RT and possibly LB. Whaley has sold out the last few years by putting the Bills to the cap and trading up in drafts only to get to .500. His cap management is atrocious. His drafts have been mediocre at best, has trouble getting along with coaches, and lacks leadership and communication skills. Compared to Marv Levy and Russ Brandon, DW looks pretty good, but that is setting the bar low. Whaley is a good scout especially on the defensive side of the ball, but is simply overmatched as a GM. Pegula should have made a change when Rex was fired. Edited March 10, 2017 by b2henning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think Whaley has added talent to the roster. The biggest question mark was moving up for Watkins and without him being healthy it is looking like a bad move eventhough I was good with it at the time. I think Rex ruined the defense which killed some wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JM2009 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley has always been good at pro personnel evaluation. His drafting and QB evaluations are a different story. This. and the cap problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Whaley gets too much credit around here. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 You are what your record says you are. He's a middle of the road GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 We have 0 2013 drafted players on our roster. We're gonna have maybe 1 or 2 from 2014. Right-- and no first rounder in 2015. Last year, Lawson was picked first, despite the fact his arm was falling off. QB situation? They signed Taylor, who was Ryan's guy. Other than that-- nothing in the draft other than ultra-raw C. Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Chris Brown works for the Bills and Whaley. True Bills fans know he is told what to say. He is not a reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think Whaley has been one of the better Bills GMs. He's made many good moves. But people needs scapegoats. The Bills would have made the playoffs last year if the D wasn't mishandled by Rex and Co. Fair point, but Whaley fails to hit on draft picks most of the time and the bills are right up against the cap without having a franchise QB. The bills also have bad depth, and that is a result of missing on your mid to late rounds picks time after time. You are right in saying he has made good moves, but overall I think he is a below average GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjames24 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I haven't posted on here in years! Now that BB Message board was shut down I'm happy to be back. Anyway, Chris Brown is brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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